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My first post--YAY.

Here's my situation:
I moved to conroe, but i'm waiting on a newer crossfire / sli board with good overclocking potential (ASRock 775 Dual VSTA sucks @ OCing, but lets me use agp or pcie :D ). I own a 6800gt AGP and i want to get something faster, because as much as i love my card, it's showing its age. Should I get an ATI x1900xt 512MB, or an ATI x850xt PE? Direct X 10 is coming, along with new cards. Will the x850xt pe hold up for crysis? Will the x1900xt last me through about 3-4 more years? Please help :( . Any reasonable opinion is welcome. Thanks in advance.
 
I would wait another month for the new DX10 cards if you are going to try and make a vid card last 3+ years....the current crop of cards, even as fast as they are, are going to get owned under DX10 and the next gen cards. Save your money, sell whatever you can, and get a DX10 card.

Your 6800GT will last you another month or two, man, I am on a freaking pci-e GeForce 6200LE!!!!!!!!!!!! I sold my 7900GT to partially finance the upcoming G80, and I dream of having a good card like a 6800GT hehehe as an "inbetween" solution....


Oh yeah, welcome to the forums...great place to spend some net time....
 
Thanks for a quick response :) . Will there be any DX10 cards under 300 bucks though? I spent $400 on the 6800gt, and i dont want to do that again as it made my wallet and gf very sad. Would a $120 x850xt be a nice upgrade for the meantime, or should i just wait until prices on DX10 cards drop to affordable (for me) levels? I want to be playing Crysis, Oblivion, Dark Messiah, and some Steam games among others.

BTW, i have a BFG 6800 (AGP though) vanilla if you're interested :). i would just need to get it from my hometown and replace it with a spare 6200. I can trade or take paypal.
 
It all depends on the level of IQ you want to pursue and what resolutions you are going to be playing at.

The DX10 titles are going to be rude to any DX9 card, unless you want to turn down the eye candy a fair amount. The DX9 titles will play fine with a X850 based card, but nothing to write home about in comparison to your 6800GT. I have a rig here with an X800XTPE and it was alot slower, by far, than my 7900GT. Just not enough difference to justify swapping cards (and paying the difference).

I still think you should tough it out right now, your 6800GT is decent, save some more cash and/or sell the 6800, and get a DX10 card, and no, I doubt there are going to be a $300 DX10 card out right away....prolly more like $450-$550......heck use your vanilla 6800 to hold you over and sell the pci-e version. I don't have an agp slot so I could not use your vanilla model....



Sweet talk the girlfriend

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Thanks. Both my 6800's are AGP BTW. I hope that newegg will have some open-box R80's for cheap quick enough, but if not then at least CoD3 and Gears of War should be good distractions from my PC gaming for a while. IQ is not a huge factor for me, but i do favor my friend's x800GTO because of it. I'm playing @ 1440 x 900, so maybe with this u can give me some more advice.

Thanks again.
 
gorilla show said:
I'm playing @ 1440 x 900, so maybe with this u can give me some more advice.

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1440x900 is starting to get to the high res range....pretty close pixel wise to 1280x1024. My son's rig has the X800XTPE and a 19" WS LCD at 1440x900, same as you. It is being pushed by an Athlon64 at 2.2ghz. Yes, in Far Cry, Quake4, and HL2, with all the eye candy on they get pretty slow and choppy at that res. Crysis and any other DX10 game will crush that setup.

Play that console to hold you over and get a DX10 card.....sell your 6800's now and get the most bang pricewise.....they are going to keep dropping in value...
 
I have the same Mobo and Vid card you do, and am also playing the waiting game.
You should easily get to 300FSB on the Asrock, not much, but more than the Dell and Gateway boys and girls are getting.

Have you overclocked your GT at all? most folks were able to get ultra speeds for a non-trivial boost in framerate.

I would advise against buying another DX9 card at this point. You'll only be kicking yourself for it later. I assume you're at 1440X900 because that's the native res of your LCD monitor- Probably a 19 incher. Does it have a DVI input?

I fully expect four things to happen in the next 3 months:
1. C2D and Kentsfield mobos will mature and come down in price.
2. DDR2 800 memory will come down in price significantly
3. The LCD market will saturate, and we'll finally see low lat. 24" LCD's under $500
4. DX10 midrange cards will come out that will smoke an X1900xt for about the SAME PRICE

What games are making your 6800GT show it's age? If you must buy another DX9 card, wait for the DX10 parts to come out and pick up a used one CHEAP- There is going to be hundreds of thousands of them for sale in around a month.
 
I think DFI is coming out with an RD600 chipset based board soon. The RD600 is by far the best overclocking chipset availible. It is as legendary as the NF4 chipsets on s939 on DFI boards. My friend has a opteron 148 OCed to 3.2ghz on air with a DFI.
 
yea, i hear ya. i bought the dual vsta cuz i wanted to wait for better core 2 mobo's and i could use all my old stuff. i had my 6800gt @ more than ultra, but it started screwing up (even @ stock) so i RMA'd it. I have my ASRock @ 300FSB, but im having some issues with CPU-Z. It says i have an 8:5 fsb to ram ratio, which completely boggles me, and my timings are also screwed up. It's performing as well as it should, so no biggie. The DFI looks sweet, i saw that a couple of days ago and i'm excited :D

1440 x 900 is my native, and i do have dvi. I have also thought about waiting for G80 so i can get a cheap DX9, but things like this and the 7900GTO have been making me very itchy.

Dark Messiah Demo, FEAR, Oblivion are killing my card :(
 
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