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need help with 2nd hard drive.

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zawada101

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i just installted a second hard drive tonight, and everytime i try to move a file from C: (old hard drive) to my new one (H:) it seems that it copies and pastes the file first. i tried to extact a .rar file and it copied itself to a temp folder on C:, and then pasted it onto H:. is there a way to stop this from happening and just do a straight move of files? thanks.
 
not sure I understand the question

most of the compression programs I have provide the option to
extract here or
extract to a directory I specify

if its a selfextracting file, then it often will auto extract to the systemroot temp folder (typically that is C:/ unless you employ a dual boot and boot to a partition other than the system partition)
 
well, everytime i try to extract a .rar file from my new harddrive, it first extracts to a temp file on C: (my main one) and then to H: (my new one). im just wondering if theres a way to skip extracting it to the temp folder first..
 
WinRar
integrates into the Windows Explorer shell, so that when you Right Click on a rar archive the dropdown list gives you these options
Extract Files... (where you get a popup window to tell it where to extract)
Extract Here
and often there is another option
example
Extract to linker2_0_4.tar\


now if its a self extracting exe...
cant seem to rememeber many but they are common in zip
if you click on it, generally it will go directly to the temp folder
instead try RightClicking

what program are you using?
 
Don't drag the file from the archive to the drive, use the extract files option and extract to the drive you want it to go to..
 
ok thanks you 2, i was always opening it and then draggin the files. now if i just right click and select extract here it all works out. thanks again :).

-edit: now if i do this it seems to take 3x as long. if i extract something on my C: drive it takes like 5mins, and now on H: it takes around 15mins.
 
I have no problems on my system.
I extract large files (700megs) from my internet machine to my server, takes about 5 minutes or so.
 
yes they are on the same chain, my main one is a wd 80GB 8mb (set as cable select), and my new one is a wd 160GB 8mb (set as secondary).
 
I just timed it and it was 4 minutes & 55 seconds to extract a 699 meg file from 49 rar files @ 14megs each across the network, so something is not right with your setup since you are only going from drive to drive on the same machine.
 
being on the same channel there are a few considerations

IDE\ATA\ATAPI is sequential
meaning first the HDD reads a part of the file until the HDD's Cache is full then writes it to the Second HDD,
then that repeats each taking its own turn
then its unlikely its reading the file from a single location, its probably fragmented, and when it writing it, its also writing it to multiple locations, that introduces the latency and access times of both drives into it

if your going to be transfering alot of data inbetween two HDDs on a regular basis, its best if they are on their own channels, writing from a HDD to a Optical drive is alot better, the optical can only deal with a maximum of 33MB/s Burst (UDMA mode2) whereas the HDD is probably at UDMA mode5 100MB/s burst (50>30MB/s Sustained), in short the sequential issues arent enought to effect the burn speed with modern software (and reads arent really an issue either) both cant saturate the bus

of course those are just interface speeds and are not the sole consideration of HDD performance

review this thread and the links it contains
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=740512

there is a myth about putting optical drives on the same channel as HDDs, it is just that a myth, but it keeps getting reinforced by the way Windows deals with ATA\ATAPI issues
basically with Independent Device Timing two devices (master\slave) both transfer their data at their own highest speed, but, they both either have to be PIO (which is glacially slow) or UDMA, if one defaults to PIO because of some issue, Windows will default the other as well. There was a time when CDROMs where only PIO, and HDDs where DMA, for that period of history you didnt want to share a channel, but modern opticals are UDMA mode2 so there is rarely any issue

however if possible it is ideal
(for data integrity if nothing else)
to have each device as a master on its own channel

whenever possible consider from what source to what target the large files are being transfer on a regular basis,
and try to adapt your physical configuration to accommodate that ;)
 
thanks for all the help, all i did was set both the jumpers to cable select and that fixed all my problems.
 
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