Need help ..what to buy for 2560x1440 ips monitor

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Vlad28

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Hi guys .. need advice .. I was building my new pc
things are like this mobo: z77 gigabyte
micro i7 2600k
ram 8gb corsair
Power S:Antec 80+ 750 watts

I received a a gift one of this Korean monitor :Yamakasi Catleap 2560 x 1440

I work a LOT in photoshop and 3d programs .. and of course I like gaming ..
my budget is around 500 $ .. so I need your opinions on this ..
what would be best? an 7970 ? a gtx 680?

if I go for SLI /crossfire ..( which I never did in my life :p) its a better choice? and if yes what I should buy? a couple of 570? its possible with a couple of 660? or amd? 2x 6950 2gb? if I choose to goo with this.. I need a more powerfull Power source?

thanks to all
 
I would go with either a 670 or a 7970. I don't think the 680 is worth the price premium, considering it is only 10% faster than the 670 (if that). Either of those cards is fine for 2560x1440. I wouldn't mess with SLI/Crossfire for that resolution, a single card can drive that well enough for most people (unless you really need extreme settings, for example).
 
Forceman said:
I would go with either a 670 or maybe a 7970. I don't think the 680 is worth the price premium, considering it is only 10% faster than the 670 (if that).
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This and you can always grab a 2nd 7970 in the future to Crossfire.
 
Melon said:
This and you can always grab a 2nd 7970 in the future to Crossfire.
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Isn't AMD cards better for things like photoshop/3d modelling since they have incredible computing power?
 
lbj. said:
Isn't AMD cards better for things like photoshop/3d modelling since they have incredible computing power?
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I'm not quite sure on which programs use OpenCL, or CUDA based acceleration. :(
 
lbj. said:
Isn't AMD cards better for things like photoshop/3d modelling since they have incredible computing power?
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I think Photoshop is OpenCL enabled now, but it used to just be CUDA so Nvidia cards were better for that also. You'd have to check and see whether the version you have support OpenCL or not.
 
A single GTX 660 or 670. My 580 runs everything(almost) at that res on my 2500K and 16GB ram
 
Depends on what version of CS you're using. Also, which 3D modeling suite are you using? Most of them tend to favor nVidia. By choosing anything current generation, you'll be ok. Be it SLI 660Tis, Crossfire 7970s, or a single GTX680, your PSU can handle it.

Also, more memory and telling us if you have an SSD will factor in more appropriately for your overall build.
 
A 680 is great if you can get it cheap used and clock it high ($400 or less), 670 otherwise. 7970 for sheer horsepower when OCed is great, but there are lots of complaints around about the drivers and I've experienced some myself having used a 7850 for a while the last couple months.

One of the benefits of a single 2560x1440 monitor is that the need for high levels of AA is greatly reduced if not made completely redundant, so SLI/CFX is really not necessary IMO. I have a Shimian myself and can see no real difference between 2x MSAA and 8x MSAA.
 
convexion said:
One of the benefits of a single 2560x1440 monitor is that the need for high levels of AA is greatly reduced if not made completely redundant, so SLI/CFX is really not necessary IMO. I have a Shimian myself and can see no real difference between 2x MSAA and 8x MSAA.
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Interesting! You know that makes a ton of sense when I think about it but I had never really thought about it like that before. :) Another nice benefit of a tight dot pitch.
 
I'm gaming at 2560X1600 and I experience the same thing. I don't need high levels of AA at all. I'm currently gaming on a GTX 660 TI and it seems to run everything just fine. With your power supply you should be able to SLI them just fine if you need to in the future.
 
Guys ,, jojoenglish85, Comenius ,convexion ,Wyluliraven,Vengance 01,Forceman,Melon , Ibj,

first Thank you a lot .for your comments , thoughts and advices.! its my first time building a pc .. and purchasing this kind of monitor . Im very exited and I also saved a every penny for buying this rig ,. and.also... my apologize for my delay ..-__-U


yes I would definitely buy a SSD WD 120gb and I would add more ram ..16 GB absolutely



Wyluliraven: Im using photoshop cs4 ( I would be upgrading to cs5 ) in 3D I use Maya ..and Zbrush -

I heard many times that photoshop and 3d programs tend to favor Nvida products too ... but hmmm well some ppl I know they use AMD cards and are ok .. meh honestly .. is this so true?
also I heard about Open cl .. Ithink Phsp CS5 had it ..

so I think the question here splits in 2
1. if Nvidia cards or AMD cards which are better for this kind of photoshop , Maya ZBrush work ? or is more a meh ..bla bla pointless debate? (they are all good) AMD seems awesome in computing ,.. but Nvidia whit Physx would be a better option for 3d? or the main problem with AMD is the drivers issues ?

and 2 gaming and all .. : 680 is yeap .. a bit overpriced .. I was thinking in AMD 7970 (maybe Ghz edition ).. some reviews point that its really good .working with super resolutions ..

SLI/Crossfire : about this question .. what are the cons ( if there are any) going this way?
IF ... if i go this path ... a couple of 660 ti ? like jojoenglish85 said . it would

and ... another question was buging my mind ..is what about V-Ram ? amd has 3gb more than Nvidia .. is this important for what exactly ? I read that if I go for SLI /Crossfire Vram would not add up ..

thinking about old cards ( well not so old :p) like 69xx and 570s .. I think its not so smart choice .. maybe because they consume more power and x2 660 would be a more smart choice .(?) despite of that in the early beginning I was thinking purchasing a single 580 ..( just now I have some more bucks to spend :D)
convexion: huh .. I never imagine that .. so ..having 2560x1440 , it reduce the need of gamin in AA!? O.O ! .. I was thinking in a 670 just in some reviews while gaming when all setting are turned on .. it struggles a bit ..
 
hmm I never bothered playing with Aaalll settings max out ..(hehe but one day I dont mind try it :DD) and I think a 670 would be a better choice over a 680 (because of the $$).. but .. but a 7970 is right there in the middle bouncing ..flying around ..

considering my type of work ( a lot of 3d modeling and rendering ,, and moving heavy photoshop files ..2 gb .. ) are the AMD ¨driver¨ problems so big?

Convexion: sorry to dwell again on this .. but hmm I never thought that that having so great resolution monitor it would reduce the need for high ultra settings .. I think this is very interesting!
I bought my Yamakasi Catleap from Greensum on ebay .. hehe cant wait XD
 
hdgamer said:
I'm gaming at 2560X1600 and I experience the same thing. I don't need high levels of AA at all. I'm currently gaming on a GTX 660 TI and it seems to run everything just fine. With your power supply you should be able to SLI them just fine if you need to in the future.
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Thanks hdgamer! .. its good to know .. in your opinion ( Im saying this because I never get into SLI/CROSSFIRE so Im bit whit no clue on this topic) after some time when 660 would not be enough ..for game standards going with another 660 would extend the life/performance of those videocards? maybe its kind of stupid thinking this way ..( I think Im stressed .and there are a lot of questions and rounding my mind XD) but for that matters going with a 670 or 7970 would be a bit better ? I m thinking for in about a year ahead .. when 8xxx and 7xx would be bouncing everywhere :p
 
The difference between a 670 and a 660 TI would be about 10-15% in frames. To me that doesn't mean that much. Either a game doesn't play at all and stutters, it plays smooth enough, or it's peged at 60 fps and buttery smooth everywhere. 10-15% in frames at 40 fps is a difference of 40-44 frames. I don't notice 4 frames increase in my opinion.

Neither the 660 or 670 will make any recent games pegged at 60 fps, nor will any games be stuttery and unplayable. I'm exeriencing between 28-60 fps in almost all newer games maxxed out and it's all playable. Adding a second card for SLI should peg these games at 60 fps and make them buttery smooth. In my opinion, it's better to buy the cheaper card and sli. When the next gen comes out and you get the itch to upgrade, you will lose less money when you sell your cards.

As far as your question, if you don't want to sli and find that your card doesn't have enough power, your probably at a point where you want to upgrade. Think of which card will lose more value when you sell for the upgrade, the 660, or the 670?
 
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Understood good point! .. thaks ,, I think Im desiding between a single 670 or a 7970 .. ( im looking if I find info about drivers issues and if Nvidia or AMD is better for 3D programs rendering and all :p .. and then afther some time I will see if I buy another to DO SLI or crossf. ..
 
Honestly, I would rather you see put the money towards a 670 given the scenarios you have put before us. Now, this does come with a bias, but it is my opinion.

Concerning your CS version, DEFINITELY go nVidia. If you were in the process of upgrading to CS6, you could use either or, but for an older suite, nVidia.
 
Wyluliraven said:
Honestly, I would rather you see put the money towards a 670 given the scenarios you have put before us. Now, this does come with a bias, but it is my opinion.

Concerning your CS version, DEFINITELY go nVidia. If you were in the process of upgrading to CS6, you could use either or, but for an older suite, nVidia.
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thanks for the advice :) .. I read somewhere that Adobe is supporting Open CL but cant remember what version .. so its CS6 .. (oaff -___- photoshop and its versions :p )
so working in 3D u suggest Nvidia right? some of my friends said so ..I was supposing its just an subjective idea.. AMD and all its computing power is no useful ?
 
Anything you get will be great for what your doing. I play alot of games with some friends all the time and some of them in my opinion are way to anal when it comes to fps. We can be playing battlefield 3 and i got a buddy watching his frams as we play and hes bitching at some points because his fps drops on his 690 and like wise got another buddy bitching because the same thing is happening on his crossfire 7970's. I just like to enjoy the game and have it play smoothly, half of the time i think the performance issues in BF3 for example are because the server is trash lol. Im running crossfire 6950's and play everything on High and some things ultra and love the graphics on my monitor.

Im could care less if i get 4 frames less than my buddy, especially when he gets owned lol. But when it comes to video cards, it honestly is never enough after a period of time, its just how much your willing to spend and how much others hype these products. For every card released, there is a faction that follows. And every argument is as follows, "why not just spend the "XXX" amount and grab a "XXXX"?" That would be awesome if the next gen of cards to come out would just come out with the most expensive card possible then let us decide if we want to spend that much to own it. The bitching would stop for the most part, but people would bitch about the pricing lol. Get what you want as long as your EYES are happy.
 
a 670, with the option to get another down the track. I think the 660s are nice, you could go that way but to me, it is the bare minimum GPU, which is a path I personally don't go down as I am older and can afford(to blow $$$) a bit better setup, so I go that way.
AMD have some great cards, generally @better prices but I prefer NV @this time - I have some 3D monitors etc, so I am sorta stuck(until Win8)..by choice:rolleyes::eek::p;););)
gl, decisions, decisions!!!:):):)
 
I've switched to nVidia (eVGA) for the great driver support and hardware warranty. eVGA quit the lifetime limited warranty game, but their product is still pretty solid. MSI is pretty legit too.

Your budget will probably help decide on what you want to buy. If you have no limit, go with whatever gives you a stable 60fps at the resolution of your monitor. Hope that helps!
 
jojoenglish85 yes got your point :) and agree :) meeh Im not running anymore about FPS :) ..
since price is barely the same ..one thig left me to dig a bit of research on my own .. is about 3d work.. some folks here said Nvidia is better but open cl on AMD is really outstanding ..

but returning to you .. yeah .. I was a little ( nah ..Im lying )I was waay to stressed XDD big screen lot of pixels .. FPS hehehe and all this talking .really help me cool down :)
in the other hand ,... ..hehe XD .. having a 690 and bitching about when fps are low a bit ?
having a 7970 in crossfire and he did that too ?? man .. thats pornografic! XDD hhaaha gosh ! .. and wats left for normal mortals like we then ??
jokes aside :) thanks for sharing this :) ..
 
Your sentence structure has degraded a few decades, my EYES!!

Let us know which you decide to go with!
 
Vlad28 said:
I work a LOT in photoshop and 3d programs .. and of course I like gaming ..
my budget is around 500 $ .. so I need your opinions on this ..
what would be best? an 7970 ? a gtx 680?
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I am just relaying what one of my university friends told me when he was working on photoshop. Nvidia and Nvidia only. I know photoshop is a RAM hog but I am not sure if it's a VRAM hog also. If you want to up the budget alittle bit ang get a single GTX 680 4GB. Now this is for photoshop.

For gaming I am sure the GTX 680 regular is fine for those console port games for PC. I am gaming at 2560x1600 and I love FPS games. Especially BF3. Crossfire and BF3 work great at 2560x1600 on my 7970s. GPU-Z also reported a VRAM usage of 2.32GB at my resolution with the highest settings.

But if you're putting your work (photoshop and 3D programming) ahead of gaming I would get the top end Nvidia card without a doubt.

I am sure AMD has improved over the years for photoshop. But I don't use photoshop and do 3D programming for a living. Take the safe bet :)
 
Mr Mean said:
I am just relaying what one of my university friends told me when he was working on photoshop. Nvidia and Nvidia only.
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applications in the adobe creative suite use to benefit more from Nvidia's CUDA architecture. CS6 is now out and takes advantage of openCL to accelerate performance which is present in current cards from both AMD/NVidia.
 
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