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Need help deciding between PS3 and 360

AllSpad3s

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I am stuck between getting a ps3 or a 360.... There are games for each that I am interested in... So I was hoping you guys could give me a little bit more perspective between the two.
 
PS3:
Solid build quality
Nice black finish
Excellent Blu-Ray player
Very Expensive [$600 is the cheapest model]
[Currently] Very limited software selection
PSN is basic at best; Home is new and unproven
Several key exclusives, but many won't surface until 2008
HDMI 1.3
No DVD Upconverting currently
Crippled Hardware Scaler [largely affects older HDTVs]
HD Cables are extra [don't come with the console]
Promise of future integration with the PSP
Folding@Home [for some]
KB/Mouse support for upcoming games [UT 2007]
Will likely have a very diverse collection of titles
PSN is free

360:
Sketchy build quality and reliability [depending on who you ask]
Probably need to buy an extended warranty [at least one year]
Premium console is $200 less than the PS3
Xbox Live is the benchmark for online console gaming
Doubles as a DVD Upconverter
Frequent upgrades have added to the usability and functionality of the console
HD DVD player is optional and can be had for less than $200
XBLA and Marketplace are very rich in content [tons of demos, DLC, arcade games, HD rentals, etc]
Achievements extend the life of games
Solid collection of software titles
Unlike Xbox 1, the 360 has branched out to be more than FPS or Racing games
Several PS3 exlcusives have made their way to the 360
Many blockbuster exclusives to be released this year
The Elite adds HDMI [albeit 1.2] and larger HDD for those who are willing to pay
Excellent wireless controllers and accessories [play and charge kit, quick charge, etc]
Possibility of great things with the Vista Live program [achievements to PC games, etc]

If you bought a console today, you'd have more choices with the 360 in terms of titles and a rich online community. Many expect PS3 to match this with Home, but the jury is still out on this one. I'm not going to encourage you one way or the other, but I would say that, for me, the 360 was the best purchase for me. I love my Elite, and I have never been happier with a console. I haven't ruled out the PS3 sometime down the road, but I buy consoles to play games and the system [to me at least] currently does not possess enough games to justify it's price tag.
 
^ what he said.

Based on just the games available now and this year, you'd have a better selection on the 360 right now. If you are a huge fan of the exclusives that are coming out next year for the PS3, then thats something to consider. Just make sure you are ready to wait. Personally, the best way to shop would be to take the release lists of both consoles, print them out, and start circling the games you think you would want to get for each, both released and unreleased. Then take a look at what you circled and choose from there. There might be a game or 2 for one system that you just have to play. That might make your choice easier.

Here's the 360 list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games

Here's the PS3 list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Playstation_3_games

They also list which are exclusive and when their announce release dates are (if available). There might be a better resource out there, but these are pretty easy to view lists . . . and they are all I can access from work.

Edit: Some of the release dates on the above lists are not absolutely current. Some games have been pushed back, but it is a good starting point. If there is a game on that list that you are interested in and it has an announced release date, I recommend double checking IGN or some other resource to see if that date is current.
 
I'll add to that:

PS3:

Excellent peripheral support
Able to share purchased games with other PSN users
Built in wi-fi
wireless keyboard support

360
Huge userbase on Xbox Live
User friendly gui
Upconverts dvd's through HDMI or VGA only
All peripherals must be endorsed digitally through Microsoft
Out of the 3 nex gen consoles, has the largest library gamewise
 
PS3:

I'm not going to encourage you one way or the other, but I would say that, for me, the 360 was the best purchase for me. I love my Elite, and I have never been happier with a console. I haven't ruled out the PS3 sometime down the road, but I buy consoles to play games and the system [to me at least] currently does not possess enough games to justify it's price tag.


That IS encouraging one way or the other.

As a counter point I do enjoy my PS3. I have used the XBL and the PSN both are good at what they are meant to do. XBL has more content at the moment and my be the Big black eye on Sony since they have had online consoles slightly longer and never invested the time and money until now to make something competetive. I disagree with the statement that most of the good games are comming out next year. Sony has just had a Gamer's day and the near future looks good for games on the PS3. I also disagree that "home" is meant to compete with XBL. Home to me is a goofy community tool at best. It will have a lot of features built into it to expand your own personaliation of your "online apartment" it is sort of a 3D web page that you can put music into as well as game trophies and such. I still look at the PlayStation Network as the head to head competition to the X-Box Live.

As for the Price tag question this is also a bogus statement. You cannt have it both ways. You cannt call the PS3 expensive and then list the 360 elite ($440) and the HD-DvD add on ($199) and other excessories such as the wireless nic card( $100 ) and call that less expensive than the PS3. ($600) That has all those features built into the system.


A good thing to ask yourself is "what am I looking for in a game system?". This will help you out greatly. Are you looking for a Game system only? If so the X-Box and the Wii are both good choices since they are great at what they do and you can save some cash over purchaseing the PS3 that will include things you dont want. If you want to use all the stuff that all the PS3 comes with then you may want to go that root. I personaly like the PS3 because of the Blue-Ray player. It has a 50 gig capacity for a double layer disc and that seems to equate to a longer life span for the game system considering the size of todays games. I think that once the games for the PS3 start comming out it is actually going to be a tougher decision for you to make. Thankfully there are more and more cross platform games comming out so you are not totaly burned no matter what you decide.
 
I say PS3. :D

Here are MY reasons...

Build quality is good... a lot of my other electronics (LCD monitor, 7.2 digi camera, etc) are made by Sony... all of which I think are excellent products.

True the X360 has more games out. BUT how many of those games do you actually plan on playing? How many games do you tend to buy per month/year? Even though its library might be huge... I know I for 1, can't afford them all.

PS3 does have a limited library right now, but since December the PS store has almost tripled in size (in terms of content). I can't afford to dish out $120+ a month for new games... so the few games that are out that I have got to buy, I've fully enjoyed.

I know in another thread someone posted that the PS2 blows out sales figures for all current consoles. The amount of titles out on the PS2 is HUGE. I never got a chance to play half the games for the PS2.... So even thought he PS3 current "next-gen" library is small, the PS2 isn't... and it helps fill the void between PS3 titles until more are released. (not to mention most PS2 titles are 20-40 bucks)

The fact that more and more content is being added to my PS3 (in terms as to what I can do with it) with out any cost to me is a plus to me. I like the idea of folding@home... I like the firmware updates giving me more features (and working out the bugs).

Home I think is gonna be a lot cooler than some think.... Even if your not into the whole Sims thing ( I know I'm not ) I still think that its cool you can walk up to a pool hall and pick someone to play with... Or watching other people play (screen saver? :p)

I'm sure this thread is going to cause the fan boys to come out on each side. I say what ever you go with... find out what the return policy is first... that way if you don't like it or if its not what you expected you can return it, and maybe go with the other. Good luck to you.
 
That IS encouraging one way or the other.

Snip

I gave the OP tons of pros and cons for both systems with which he [or she] can make an informed decision on their own. It is true that I spoke of my experience, but I did not do so in any derogatory terms nor did I discourage anyone else from offering their opinion.

Please let's not make an informative thread go to hell because someone doesn't like my personal assessment.
 
I also vouch for the PS3. I just have a hard time recommending a 360 to anyone after seeing so many of them crap out between my friends and me. The PS3 comes with ...

- Wireless rechargeable controller included
- HD movie player (Blu-ray) included
- Wireless internet access included
- Free online play included.

Not to mention it's quieter than a 360, cooler (temperature) than a 360, and has a MUCH lower failure rate than the 360. You'll have to be patient with the current library of games though, there's not much to choose from, but over the next 6 months this will change drastically. Grab yourself copies of Resistance, Motorstorm, Godfather, and Virtua Tennis, and you'll easily be occupied until the next month or two when Lair and friends come out.
 
As for the Price tag question this is also a bogus statement. You cannt have it both ways. You cannt call the PS3 expensive and then list the 360 elite ($440) and the HD-DvD add on ($199) and other excessories such as the wireless nic card( $100 ) and call that less expensive than the PS3. ($600) That has all those features built into the system.

I think a good disclaimer there is, IF you are also looking for a HD disc media player AND need wireless.

Thankfully there are more and more cross platform games comming out so you are not totaly burned no matter what you decide.

This is true and the best part about this generation.
 
I gave the OP tons of pros and cons for both systems with which he [or she] can make an informed decision on their own. It is true that I spoke of my experience, but I did not do so in any derogatory terms nor did I discourage anyone else from offering their opinion.

Please let's not make an informative thread go to hell because someone doesn't like my personal assessment.

I know what you are saying I am just saying that you did say the 360 is better and it may be for you. My statment still stands that it is an encouraging statement for the 360. I dont believe I made any derogatory statements about the 360 but my statement was and still is in favor of purchaseing the PS3.
 
I know in another thread someone posted that the PS2 blows out sales figures for all current consoles. The amount of titles out on the PS2 is HUGE. I never got a chance to play half the games for the PS2.... So even thought he PS3 current "next-gen" library is small, the PS2 isn't... and it helps fill the void between PS3 titles until more are released. (not to mention most PS2 titles are 20-40 bucks)

360 Premium = $400
PS2 Slim = $129
$70 for games!

True the X360 has more games out. BUT how many of those games do you actually plan on playing? How many games do you tend to buy per month/year? Even though its library might be huge... I know I for 1, can't afford them all.

This is pretty silly sounding. Huge library != must purchase them all. Wait, the PS2 has a huge library also, he can't purchase all of them so why buy one . . . really, no matter which system you are talking about, that is pretty silly.
 
PS3:
Solid build quality
Nice black finish
Excellent Blu-Ray player
Very Expensive [$600 is the cheapest model]
[Currently] Very limited software selection
PSN is basic at best; Home is new and unproven
Several key exclusives, but many won't surface until 2008
HDMI 1.3
No DVD Upconverting currently
Crippled Hardware Scaler [largely affects older HDTVs]
HD Cables are extra [don't come with the console]
Promise of future integration with the PSP
Folding@Home [for some]
KB/Mouse support for upcoming games [UT 2007]
Will likely have a very diverse collection of titles
PSN is free

360:
Sketchy build quality and reliability [depending on who you ask]
Probably need to buy an extended warranty [at least one year]
Premium console is $200 less than the PS3
Xbox Live is the benchmark for online console gaming
Doubles as a DVD Upconverter
Frequent upgrades have added to the usability and functionality of the console
HD DVD player is optional and can be had for less than $200
XBLA and Marketplace are very rich in content [tons of demos, DLC, arcade games, HD rentals, etc]
Achievements extend the life of games
Solid collection of software titles
Unlike Xbox 1, the 360 has branched out to be more than FPS or Racing games
Several PS3 exlcusives have made their way to the 360
Many blockbuster exclusives to be released this year
The Elite adds HDMI [albeit 1.2] and larger HDD for those who are willing to pay
Excellent wireless controllers and accessories [play and charge kit, quick charge, etc]
Possibility of great things with the Vista Live program [achievements to PC games, etc]

If you bought a console today, you'd have more choices with the 360 in terms of titles and a rich online community. Many expect PS3 to match this with Home, but the jury is still out on this one. I'm not going to encourage you one way or the other, but I would say that, for me, the 360 was the best purchase for me. I love my Elite, and I have never been happier with a console. I haven't ruled out the PS3 sometime down the road, but I buy consoles to play games and the system [to me at least] currently does not possess enough games to justify it's price tag.


I think you forgot to mention also that ps3 runs linux which also means mplayer with samba :)

You may have to get both buddy.

Personally I think ps3 for games because they release games I like Tekken Soul Calibur to name a very few plus I like more of their upcoming releases warhawk, heavenly sword, lair, little big planet, etc plus they have lots of great Japanese developers developing for them. Xbox360 core for live and halo 3.You may have to get both.
 
I know what you are saying I am just saying that you did say the 360 is better and it may be for you. My statment still stands that it is an encouraging statement for the 360. I dont believe I made any derogatory statements about the 360 but my statement was and still is in favor of purchaseing the PS3.

I stated that, for me, the 360 made the most sense for me at my time of purchase. Let's examine what I said:

ME said:
I'm not going to encourage you one way or the other, but I would say that, for me, the 360 was the best purchase for me.

Besides being a little redundant there is nothing wrong with this statement. If you have a problem with me stating what decision was best for me then your agenda cannot be any more clear.

At the end of the day this doesn't help the OP one bit.
 
360 Premium = $400
PS2 Slim = $129
$70 for games!



This is pretty silly sounding. Huge library != must purchase them all. Wait, the PS2 has a huge library also, he can't purchase all of them so why buy one . . . really, no matter which system you are talking about, that is pretty silly.

I don't think you understood what I was saying.

PS2 has a huge library of games. True?

PS2 games are cheaper than X360 games? True?

I stated that the PS3 does not have as many "next-gen" titles out... so to fill that void I can play PS2 titles on my PS3 untill more are release. Because PS2 titles are cheaper I can buy more of them at a time.

If a X360 game is 59.99 + tax... and PS2 Greatest hits are 19.99 + tax... I can get almost 3 games to 1.

All I'm trying to say is that the PS3 is GOING to have a good amount of games coming to it... and though there might not be as many games out currently for it... there are plenty of PS2 titles one could check out (that are tons of fun) while waiting for other games to be released.
 
A few points on what people have written above from my personal point of view:
- I own three 360s, one of them from launch, one from around 6 months ago, and one newish one. All three of them are used heavily, no fatalities yet. My secret to 360 longevity is to make sure they're well ventilated. I make sure they've all got a lot of cool air running through them, and I've never had any problems.
- I also have a PS3, and it's a very solid machine. There's just nothing to do on it. I play all types of games and I can't find a game in a single genre where there's no better alternative on the 360. The downloadable content stinks. There are a few interesting games coming down the pipeline, but next to the 360 it pales in comparison. Of course the 360 has had a huge headstart, that's exactly why I'd recommend it. If you want to play great games now instead of waiting for them to be released, you can't go wrong with the 360.
- The other thing that irks me about the PS3 is that it's just a standalone machine. You can't access movies and music on your network to play on your TV. I'm one of those people who likes to store all their content in one place, rather than copy it to every machine on the network.
- Now that Sony have sorted out their legal issues with Immersion, we can expect to see vibration coming back to the controllers. I already have 4 controllers, and now if I want rumble I'm going to have to spend $300 (UK prices) on 4 new controllers that haven't been gimped. This is the price I have to pay for Sony's stubbornness.

A question to other PS3 users. Does Linux still run like crap?
 
I stated that, for me, the 360 made the most sense for me at my time of purchase. Let's examine what I said:



Besides being a little redundant there is nothing wrong with this statement. If you have a problem with me stating what decision was best for me than your agenda cannot be any more clear.

At the end of the day this doesn't help the OP one bit.


Ok once again I will say this and hopefully this doesnt turn into some type of flame war.

I felt reading your original statement that you were only includeing your personal prefferance for the 360 as a justifacation of purchase. and when the sentance started with " I am not going to encourage you one way or the other but, ..." this was to me humorous.

I do not feel that you or your statements are unjustified or in any way detracting from OP's choise. On the contrary I think that he was asking for opinions and actually wanted someone to "encourage hime one way or the other" to help him make his choice.

As for my "agenda" I dont think I could state any more clearly that I prefer the PS3 to the 360. This console was and is the correct choice for my needs. I am sorry if I dont understand why this has not been clear to you. I like to leave posts on the board and I dont want to feel like I am some type of troll looking to pick fights I thought that my statements were donr in a respectfull manner.
 
All I'm trying to say is that the PS3 is GOING to have a good amount of games coming to it... and though there might not be as many games out currently for it... there are plenty of PS2 titles one could check out (that are tons of fun) while waiting for other games to be released.

The PS2 is cheap enough now, that if someone really wants one and wants to be sure they have full compatability, although I think many already have one, buying a PS2 is a very cheap, and definitly not poor, investment. I have one and am happy with it. For the price of a 360, you can actually have both its selection of current games, and the PS2's great selection of games, with money to spare.
 
Used PS3 titles are starting to trickle out- I buy mostly used.

I have a 360, and want the PS3 for BR movies I have a 100" screen with a PJ that I game on. I'm looking forward to HD movies and the PS3 experience- it even plays SACD that I can't now. Best of both worlds. I'll probably let my XBL Gold expire in January. Never played online
 
Hey Guys I ty for all your input.... regarding the 360... what are your thoughts on the Elite?
 
I say NEITHER... for now.

Best bet is to wait a bit longer.

Agreed. 360 is all but *guaranteed* to have a price drop this holiday, and it's already been announced that the 65nm versions will be shipping then as well, so reliability should be less of a problem at that point.

As for PS3, I kind of *doubt* it will get a price drop by the holidays, but you never know. Sony may actually get tired of getting kicked in the nuts month after month and decide to make a smart move with regards to PS3 for once. I'm still waiting for the inevitable slim model though :)
 
Hey Guys I ty for all your input.... regarding the 360... what are your thoughts on the Elite?

IF you want HDMI and plan on purchasing video content, get the Elite. If you just plan on downloading the game demos and videos and component video is fine, then get the Premium. As said above, they did do some reinforcement on the motherboard so there were less likely to be problems.
 
If you decide on a PS3, check on Craig's List. I still see people trying to unload them for below msrp all the time. Lots of Christmas campers... LOL

i.e. new in box 60gb systems for $500.
 
Elite=same crappy 360 with a blacker finish, bigger hard drive and more GLUE on the CPU :p

Coming from someone who currently owns an Elite, I think it is better built than my Premium [had a manufacture date of 3/06]. The Elite is quieter, faster in the dashboard, and my DVD drive purrs at most [I have the Benq drive in this one, a far cry from my last 360]. I also surmise [but I'm not 100%] that my black controller's analog is a little more responsive, too. My guess is that Microsoft is slowly figuring out how to make a better console, albeit at the expense of early adopters.
 
Bought a PS3 and honestly I think it is a worthwhile investment.

Sure the games are skimpy now, but theres something every month to keep you interested, I picked up several PS2 greats that I had missed out on, and the PSN games can be shared between 5 people, so you can get them for pennies.

We have an HDTV and this was a perfect way to get a Bluray player, which is excellent. Plus Linux makes media playing extremely easy, anything from MP3s to downloaded Divx and whatnot.

But the single largest reason I chose the PS3 is the freedom of choice when it comes to peripherals and upgrades. I briefly had an X360 (got it in a trade here actually), but when I tallied the amount of money I needed to get it in tip top shape (controllers, charge kits, wireless, hard drive, headsets and so forth) I quickly traded it away for a PSP and some other stuff.

With the PS3 I feel like every accessory I have laying around works, be it a USB or bluetooth headset (USB from my PC, and the BT one came free with my phone), a steering wheel from my PC, an old harddrive, a kb/mouse for Linux and so forth, I have had to buy only 1 accessory for the PS3 specifically, and that is the Bluray player remote. So keep that in mind, if you feel you will require a lot of side accessories, you may be better off with a PS3, it feels like a complete package and it really gives you a lot of choices in terms of what you want with it.

Plus there are a number of PS3 exclusives coming along just this year that should keep you occupied, like Uncharted, Warhawk, Little Big Planet, Lair and more, not even counting the huge franchises we will likely see such as FF and MGS. I feel like the PS3 has a good variety so that every month you can pick up a different type of play/gameplay and go like that forever. And not even counting multiplatform games coming out.
 
Elite=same crappy 360 with a blacker finish, bigger hard drive and more GLUE on the CPU :p

Gee that's helpful... Really trying to help aren't we

I love my elite. I had a launch premium that died early April, took me a couple weeks to get the gift card from my warranty at CC so I paid the difference. The colors are much more vivid thru HDMI on my tv (see sig). I don't download a huge amount but I like having the ability to do so with the 120gig HDD. I would say if you EVER think you'll use either the HDMI (I didn't think it would make such a big difference but I am impressed by it) or the huge HDD get the elite. I'm happy with the elite and while mine doesn't have the quietest dvd drive, it's just white noise to me. It's not quite the space heater it was.

My opinion would be get the elite. I don't think the PS3 offers enough to justify the price tag right now. I like the elite over the premium for HDMI and I agree with others here that this console is a little better built, now just a black finish and glue on the CPU.
 
Plus there are a number of PS3 exclusives coming along just this year that should keep you occupied, like Uncharted, Warhawk, Little Big Planet, Lair and more, not even counting the huge franchises we will likely see such as FF and MGS.

Uncharted does not have a solid release date yet. It has been listed as Q4 2007. This could actually put it into 2008. Little Big Planet is also coming out in 2008. MGS is also being pushed back to 2008.


There are a number of 360 games that are available now that make the system worth owning. Dead Rising, Crackdown, Forza 2 (well, its available next week), Gears of War, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 1 and 2, Rainbow Six: Vegas, Lost Planet, as well as some early games that are cheap now and I hear are worth picking up, Kameo, Condemned and Project Gotham Racing 3.

Not to mention that this year, coming out is Halo 3, Blue Dragon, Mass Effect, Too Human, Lost Odyssey, and Eternal Sonata. This is without even touching multiplatform games.

Correction edit: Bioshock is not exclusive, its coming to PC also.
 
I own a PS3 and Xbox360 and I can say that at the moment I spend the majority of my time on the 360, it has a larger installed base at the moment due to being in the market longer of course. Resistance / Tekken 5 DR both see a lot of play time but they are the only two games I care to own.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma comes out next month and im really looking forward to it since I never owned an original xbox so this will be my first experience with the game. I am looking forward to Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, as well as Warhawk. I think the 360 will have a better holiday outlook than the PS3 but the PS3 will eventually pick up speed as we move into next year.
 
Had a 360, loved it, just know that the failure rates are horrible, I had two systems die on me, so in all honesty it's really hard for me to recommend one until they start fixing the problems with the system's insides.
 
I'm surprised that no one even speaks of KillZone.... :D

As already stated above, it's really nice having a plug-and-play with almost anything that has a USB cable.

My USB Logitech HeadSet works great (with mic)

My USB wireless Keyboard and mouse work wonders for browsing the internet on the HDTV.

Charging my Motorola L7 with the same cable to charge my controllers is a + (my cell phone charger died... and havent gotten around to getting a new one... and probably won't... I find it a lot easier to just fold@home and charge the cell phone ;) )

I also just recently picked up a Sony 7.2 megapixel digi camera.... Uploading to the PS3 is all so easy..

I also am looking forward to Ninja Sigma Gaiden :D
 
Killzone?....You sure you posted in the right thread? ;)

I looked through the Ps3 exclusive titles upcoming and saw Ninja Gaiden Sigma? WTF? I thought that was coming to the 360 as well. Ninja Gaiden and NG Black were on the XBOX and were hugely popular (still 2 of my favorite XBOX games) so why would they not release a version of the new one for the 360?

Anyway if it's truly exclusive, then that's the only game I would buy a Ps3 for. So...yeah that's not enough to make me buy the console though.

Now more directly to the OP: If you like to play online multiplayer games, get the XBOX 360. Maybe get a PS3 in a year or so if they get better online play. Not that the 360's is perfect or anything...
If you don't plan to play online at all, it's really up to which games you want to play more. Doesn't really matter which console it is. They both play really good looking games that play well. Nobody can make this decision for you. You'll figure it out. Good lucky.
 
I got my 360 to play games because I could not find a Wii in stock anywhere.:D

I am currently playing the crap out of Guitar Hero II, and have thoroughly enjoyed several games on 360 (including gears, crackdown, kameo, lost planet, etc)

If you are using your console solely to play games, the PS3 loses a lot of its value imo (such as the larger HD, Bluray player and ability to run linux and fah) and the 360 is the better buy, especially considering the current and near future offerings of games for each console.

As far as playing PS2 games on the PS3, why not just buy a PS2 for 100's of $ cheaper?:confused: Hell, you could buy a PS2 and a 360 for less than a PS3.
 
This is an announcement of the latest firmware, which will hit tomorrow from threespeech, the "unofficial" PS3 insiders blog.

http://threespeech.com/blog/?p=417

It will have upscaling for DVDs PS1 and PS2 games up to 1080p, and if the shots of FFXII at 1080p we saw are any indication, it will make old games look very very good. You can search for those shots in these forums (the devs said the PS3 will render old games at 1080p as much as possible, rather than render at SD and then straight upconvert, resulting in better quality visuals).

I stand by my suggestion that the PS3 is a better/cheaper/more reliable long term solution (3-5 years) but if you can eventually afford both, get a 360 now, and a PS3 around Xmas or later.

And officially confirmed:
http://www.scee.presscentre.com/Content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=4372&NewsAreaID=2
 
i just scanned this and someone mentioned ninja gaiden...theyre making a new game for the 360

oh and to all the people who say the 360 has bad build quality, why not buy a 3/5 year warrant, theyre only £30 here in england so probably $50-60 in america


back on topic...im deciding between these two (i own an xbox and a ps2)...i find myself leaning towards the 360 for the simple reason that it has better games and is eating the 'exclusive' stickers on the ps3 games
 
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