I recently built a HTPC/DVR with a Hauppauge HVR-2200. The other day I got a notice from Wide Open West outlining the dates of their digital cable roll out. Will my Hauppauge 2250 work after they've converted to digital? Or did I just waste a bunch of money on a soon to be obsolete DVR build?
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Need explanation on how digital cable conversion will affect my DVR
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The specs on the HVR-2200 lists dual digital tuners as well as analog tuners. You should be fine.
You won't be able to watch or record any encrypted channels (which is a good portion of them).
Not true. The ATSC/QAM tuners only support unencrypted signals.
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Not fucked, It's a dual tuner and comes with svideo input. The OP will need two of their converter boxes and go svideo out from them to the OP's tuner.
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in my area channels under 52 are not affected. above that you will need a little box you can get from them to view those channels. the box comes with a remote and all. im sure you will be able to get 2 boxes from them and then hook them up to your dvr.
time warner will be going to this soon also. from what i hear.
time warner will be going to this soon also. from what i hear.
Along with something to control channel changes on the boxes.
Also, it's not HD if thats what the OP wants.
Here is something interesting I found. Dunno who knows about this.
After December 31, 2010, manufacturers willnot be "allowed" introduce new hardware with component video outputs supplying more than an SD resolution (480i or 576i).0„2If the manufacturer has existing models in its line-up, it will be able to continue selling that model until the end of 2013.
The AACS licensing authority, in its "Final Adopter Agreement," plans to enforce a provision that forces consumer electronics companies that make Blu-ray players (and any other AACS devices)0„2to eliminate analog video. This has been referred to as the0„2¡°Analog Sunset,¡± where the analog ports on Blu-ray players will be phased out entirely.0„2Should this go through as planned, it's0„2going to disable or throw a wrench in a lot of existing custom installations as soon as the end of this year.0„2To say that this is going to wreak havoc on the installation market is an understatement.
You can get the full piece here
http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/aacs-hdmi-kill-component-2010
After December 31, 2010, manufacturers willnot be "allowed" introduce new hardware with component video outputs supplying more than an SD resolution (480i or 576i).0„2If the manufacturer has existing models in its line-up, it will be able to continue selling that model until the end of 2013.
The AACS licensing authority, in its "Final Adopter Agreement," plans to enforce a provision that forces consumer electronics companies that make Blu-ray players (and any other AACS devices)0„2to eliminate analog video. This has been referred to as the0„2¡°Analog Sunset,¡± where the analog ports on Blu-ray players will be phased out entirely.0„2Should this go through as planned, it's0„2going to disable or throw a wrench in a lot of existing custom installations as soon as the end of this year.0„2To say that this is going to wreak havoc on the installation market is an understatement.
You can get the full piece here
http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/aacs-hdmi-kill-component-2010
wkearney99
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It's hardly going to 'wreak havoc'. If anything it'll help the market sell new all-digital devices. Seems like a win for that market.
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If the OP is getting HD currently then he's already using an STB and this change over wouldn't even affect him. Judging by what he said I took it as the OP gets his cable just straight from the wall into his TV (or tuner card).
I would imagine that the installation market (which is typically high end) has already moved on from analog gear for HDMI. It's a ton easier to work with and more reliable while giving much better image quality.
The only people who this is going to hurt is HD early adopters who haven't gotten new HDMI gear yet.
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Why go svideo out (if they even come with svideo, my comcast dta's are about the size of my palm and only have digital in and analog cable out)? You could just use the analog cable out from the box. Either way he will need an ir blaster to change the channel on the box. With svideo he couldn't use both tuners at once and wouldn't get sound from it, and would have to add more cables. I'm not positive if you can use two ir blasters at once as I have never tried that so it might not even work with two boxes.
When comcast switched from analog to digital where I was at I had to get a digital to analog adapter and then I had to buy an ir blaster to change the channel on it. Kind of sucked, but it worked. With out it the only non encrypted channels are spanish or shopping networks, not really what I watch.
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Or he's been taking advantage of ClearQAM.
Your best bet is to just wait and see. Insight called me last August and pulled this same shit on me. The tech said they would be going all digital on Jan 1st, 2011 of this year and unless you had a cable box (Which I returned to them to save $10 a month on my cable bill), you would not be able to receive any channels. 4 months later, my 2250's are still picking up my SD channels just fine...
Haha, comcast did the same except they put a message on the analog channels that said if you can see this you need to get a dta adapter by this date, then when that date came they pushed it back by 6 months. But now the only things unencrypted are spanish channels and home shopping networks. Honestly comcasts analog was better they over compress the digital channels so much that they look worse than youtube and I need a box on every tv. I really don't think it was a win for the consumer we had 8 tv's and only paid $40 for basic cable before, now we have less tv's that actually get cable because we have to pay more for a box on them so we got less and paid more. We at least did get the syfy channel now.
They are only motivated to help themselves. As far as Comcast is concerned, the consumer will never win.
If Insight is anything like comcast they won't encrypt until they are finished upgrading the area. The only thing they have to give you in the clear is local channels, per the FCC, so don't count on having it forever.
Here is a little more information I found from Wide Open West regarding their digital conversion on a FAQ from the email they sent me about the switch...
...So from the sounds of it, they will be broadcasting unencrypted digital, I think
...So from the sounds of it, they will be broadcasting unencrypted digital, I think
Yes, "option 2" would be the same thing for your Hauppage tuner. "Built in digital (QAM) tuner". So according to their literature, no action is required on your part, and your new DVR build should continue working as it is. That sounds fortunate.
With Comcast's digital transition, they started encrypting everything but the "limited basic" package, so I lost 100 SD channels.
With Comcast's digital transition, they started encrypting everything but the "limited basic" package, so I lost 100 SD channels.
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And that's what I was afraid was going to happen.