Need an AGP solution to replace a 9800Pro

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I gave my sister's family my first custom built PC which is P4, AGP based. However, it turns out that the 9800 Pro is kicking the bucket, slowly but surely.

My nephew is into games such as CSS, BF2, etc. He could care less about graphics so as long as the game will play smoothly on low, it's more then fine. Budget is another issue. She's looking to only spend $60ish dollars. What's a good replacement? I was going to suggest the 1650xt, however it appears that the 9800 Pro may be a better card, since everyone is comparing the 1650XT to the 9600...

Any suggestions?
 
Look in the FS/FT forum. You should be able to find something like a X800 or X850 for $30-60.
 
Go with the 2600xt.
1650xt is around an x850pro range in power. Both would be a large upgrade to a 9800pro.
 
I have a BFG AGP 6800 Ultra (shoulda done that AGP trade-in...oops!) I could easily sell. I have no idea what a good price would be on that though? $50 shipped? Seriously, I cant remember how it compares to the other's mentioned.
 
nvidia 7800 series and ati X1900 series under $100 would be the best option, if the power supply isnt craptastic
 
The X1950 Pro AGP is pretty much unbeatable if you can find one at the right price. In its case its more an issue of availability than "value" vs your budget. Aside from new and ridiculously expensive ATI cards anyways, I think I saw a 3850 AGP, lol.
 
For starters what are the specs for the system needing the new card? No sense getting a card like the X1900 or faster if the system is pushing an P4 2.0ghz CPU with 512mb ram. You won't be able to see the bennefits.

As Johny 5 would say " Need input "
 
P4 2.6ghz, MSI IS7, 500W PSU (iirc) 2GB of ram all running WinXP - sorry for leaving that out.

Thanks for the suggestions so far guys...I'm in the process of comparing the above to see which will best fit their price/budget concern.
 
I went from a 9800 PRO to the X1950 PRO (AGP) on a 2.6 P4 and 2 gigs of ram; it was a really nice upgrade. Read tons of threads and articles about whether or not the processor would bottleneck the card; decided to just go for it and was quite pleased with the results. The 3850 AGP would definitely be wasted on a P4, though.

The higher-end AGP cards are going for ridiculous money on eBay these days. Your best bet would be to get it off someone (in person), used.
 
I can attest to that. It seems like you can get a 3650 for relatively cheap though. I've been looking for something for my younger brother so this thread caught my eye. He's on a 3400+ 754 AMD64. I figure a 3850 would be wasted on his machine also.
 
I can attest to that. It seems like you can get a 3650 for relatively cheap though. I've been looking for something for my younger brother so this thread caught my eye. He's on a 3400+ 754 AMD64. I figure a 3850 would be wasted on his machine also.

Not as much so but the 3800+ x2 would prob be perfect for the HD3850 or at the least something like a 4000+. Being CPU limited can sometimes be better than GPU limited though, it just means your FPS will have the same max no matter what detail level you use which allows you to crank the detail up all the way.
 
See the 6600GT at the bottom of this chart? The 6600GT is roughly the same speed as a 9800XT. Now if u scroll way up there you'll see the X1650XT which is sooooo not anywhere near "about the same speed" as a radeon 9800 much less the 9600 ( which is about the same speed as the X1300 at the bottom of that chart ).

The X1650XT is a dang good card for the money and in newer games is faster than the 7600GT due tue having more shaders.

Heres a direct comparison of an X1650XT, 9800XT ( 6600GT ) and 9600 ( X1300 ).
 
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