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Need a non-vibrating drive

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Biges

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Hi!
Currently I have two Samsung HD501LJ drives and I consider their noise level OK.
I'd like to replace one of them with a larger 1TB drive, so I bought the new Seagate 7200.12 (with only two platers). But I was quite disappointed with its noise level, specifically with vibrations. Or I'm not sure if I can call it vibrations, it is more resonance or so... like if someon is snoring: ...zzzzZZZZZZzzzz... ...zzzzzZZZZZzzzz...
So I plan to return the disk and take another one.
Any recommendations, please?
What about Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ?
Thanks for your help

Edit: I used Scythe SCY-HDS2 Hard Disk Stabilizer 2 to reduce the noise made by the Seagate, but I think it only made it worse :-/
 
Good luck with that, hard drives are mechanical. Mechanical devices make noise due to friction. Friction is unavoidable with such a device.

I consider Samsung hard drives amongst the quietest in the industry; I've had eight in a RAID 5 array and could barely hear the drives over the quiet 120mm fans that cooled the case.

If the Samsung drives are too loud for you, I really don't know what to say other than to go to SSD.
 
Or go with lower speed laptop hard drives and use the string type method to mount them.
 
1TB of SSDs would be awfully expensive, also consider the WD green line of drives. I don't know if they're all 5400RPM but I know that some of the 1TB models are.
 
Syntax Error said:
Good luck with that, hard drives are mechanical. Mechanical devices make noise due to friction. Friction is unavoidable with such a device.

I consider Samsung hard drives amongst the quietest in the industry; I've had eight in a RAID 5 array and could barely hear the drives over the quiet 120mm fans that cooled the case.

If the Samsung drives are too loud for you, I really don't know what to say other than to go to SSD.
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Currently I have two Samsung HD501LJ drives and I consider their noise level OK.
 
OK. Let's re-formulate my question:
Should I take try the three-plater Samsung, or wait for other two plater 1TB drives othern than Seagate?

Edit: Well, I hear the sound even when I put the Seagate of out the case and place it on a paper box.
 
You should look into de-coupling your hard drive if vibrational noise really bothers you. As vsboxerboy mentioned, suspending your hard drive in the cage with stiff elastic should drastically reduce the "buzzing" you're hearing.

As for which hard drive, I don't think any of the 1TB+ drives on the market have low enough vibration to use without suspension. The Western Digital Green Power drives are pretty quiet, but they are also 5400 RPM drives. The 2 TB version seems to post very good benchmarks, however.

I have also heard good things about the 1.5 TB Seagate drive, but the firmware issue does not instill consumer confidence at all.

Personally, I have all of my 3.5" drives in 5.25" enclosures. Hard drive noise is really irritating to me. :(
 
So!
I bought 1TB Samsung 503smth and it does not have that annoying resosance effect. It vibrates sligthly more, but not annying rthytmic buzzing. No need for any fancy actions :)
Now I have to deal with one annoying sound, probably caused by the CPU fan :-/
 
I have a bunch of Samsung HD501LJs too. Despite Samsung drives being popular for their low noise, these things vibrate like crazy.

Simply put, you pretty much have to narrow it down by model, not by manufacturer. If you're really serious about eliminating vibration then decoupling is necessary.
 
Biges said:
Hi!
Currently I have two Samsung HD501LJ drives and I consider their noise level OK.
I'd like to replace one of them with a larger 1TB drive, so I bought the new Seagate 7200.12 (with only two platers). But I was quite disappointed with its noise level, specifically with vibrations. Or I'm not sure if I can call it vibrations, it is more resonance or so... like if someon is snoring: ...zzzzZZZZZZzzzz... ...zzzzzZZZZZzzzz...
So I plan to return the disk and take another one.
Any recommendations, please?
What about Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ?
Thanks for your help

Edit: I used Scythe SCY-HDS2 Hard Disk Stabilizer 2 to reduce the noise made by the Seagate, but I think it only made it worse :-/
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Where in the heck did you find a 7200.12 1TB Seagate? I've been looking for them, all I have found is the 500GB version, which I actually like quite a bit.
 
Well, it is available in one of the Czech PC shops :) www.czc.cz
The one was actually the first to add it into its list, even before it was available.
A friend of mine also has the 500 GB version, but I wanted 1 TB and I really don't like the sound of the Seagate HDD.
 
Biges said:
So!
I bought 1TB Samsung 503smth and it does not have that annoying resosance effect. It vibrates sligthly more, but not annying rthytmic buzzing. No need for any fancy actions :)
Now I have to deal with one annoying sound, probably caused by the CPU fan :-/
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No need for "fancy actions", just get a decent case like the Antec P182. I have the P180, by the way, and hard drive vibration has never been a problem. Rubber grommets ftw.
 
Cyrilix said:
No need for "fancy actions", just get a decent case like the Antec P182. I have the P180, by the way, and hard drive vibration has never been a problem. Rubber grommets ftw.
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I have one of the older P180s, and the silicon hard drive cushions really do make a huge difference.

I have two WD6400AAKS in RAID 0 for my workstation computer and it's hardly noticeable; then agian, the overall desktop itself is quite quiet as well. :)
 
Biges said:
Edit: Well, I hear the sound even when I put the Seagate of out the case and place it on a paper box.
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That's because it's not the Seagate making the annoying resonating sound. It's your other two drives. Simple physics.
 
Matija said:
That's because it's not the Seagate making the annoying resonating sound. It's your other two drives. Simple physics.
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No. The drive makes the sound. Of course the resonanting sound didn't come from the case when I placed the Seagate out. It came from the disk, I felt it when I thouched the drive.

Well, some people are just obsessed about not admitting, that the Seagate may be bad, while Samsung is good.
 
Cyrilix said:
No need for "fancy actions", just get a decent case like the Antec P182. I have the P180, by the way, and hard drive vibration has never been a problem. Rubber grommets ftw.
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Thanks for the tip, I'll check the case.

And please, if you post coments about anti-vibration... eeeeh... enhancements, please post screens or links to pics, thanks :)
 
Biges said:
No. The drive makes the sound. Of course the resonanting sound didn't come from the case when I placed the Seagate out. It came from the disk, I felt it when I thouched the drive.
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Then you had a completely defective HDD, because there is no chance in hell that a normal drive would be audible, much less produce that sound.

The "...zzzzZZZZZZzzzz... ...zzzzzZZZZZzzzz..." sound is usually caused by having two or more drives in a (bad) computer case. Since two otherwise identical drives do not spin at the exact same speed, but slightly differ, the vibrations transferred to the case form "beats". If one drive spins at 7200 rpm, but the other spins at 7200.5 rpm, the end result will be a beat that reaches peak amplitude every 1 / 0.5 = 2 seconds and it will sound *exactly* as you have described.

So are you really sure it was the lone Seagate, and not the two Samsungs that made your case resonate once you've opened it?
 
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