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Need a new SSD.. which one?
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Intel solved most bugs, but not all of them, acording to Anand, 520 has a problem, that if it gets filled to the brim, it looses lots of speed, even when you remove the files, TRIM won't restore drive to pristine condition, and you have to secure erase it.
I'm running on 830 and what I can tel you, it's fast (but I moved from HDD
). There won't really be noticeable differences between M4 and 830.... but 830 gets good toolbox software and other software packaging (Norton Ghost 15). So it's all the question of price
I'm running on 830 and what I can tel you, it's fast (but I moved from HDD
). There won't really be noticeable differences between M4 and 830.... but 830 gets good toolbox software and other software packaging (Norton Ghost 15). So it's all the question of priceAnonymousUser
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I'd pick (recommend) the Intel 520 (1.) or the Kingston Hyper X 3k (2.) or maybe the Samsung 830 (3.) if you want to avoid the Sandforce controller all together. It seems like these are the top SSD's right now. The Intel 520 carries a small premium but it might be worth it depending on how picky you are. Of course this opinion is only from what I've gathered recently trying to find my new SSD. If someone knows of a faster SSD that's not included above I'd love to hear it.
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Edit: Except I didn't know about that Intel 520 bug listed above....lol
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Edit: Except I didn't know about that Intel 520 bug listed above....lol
I already told you of another that's just as fast or faster and cheaper. But there seems to be a lot of bias for certain ssd manufacturers on these forums and Sandisk isn't one of them yet.
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Hmmm...I guess I did overlook this because the name hasn't been imbedded into my head enough in terms of SSD's. However looking at those charts this seems like a damn fine choice for SSD's.
I wonder how this stacks up to the Kingston Hyper X 3k (Know of any reviews where these two SSD's are included)? If this SanDisk beats out the newer Knigston SSD's like it seemed to top the charts in the above review, this might be the SSD to get. Less popular of course but seems fast as hell in most areas with less weaknesses compared to a lot of the competition.
Great warranty no doubt but from what I've gathered (I'm not a authority on this topic by any means) it's been near the bottom in performance amongst most of the top tier SSD's currently out. So not a SSD I'd personally choose.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's garbage by any means but from the short amount of time I've been looking into the newer SSD's, the Plextor M3's never seem to be leading enough on the charts. Even the review J Macker posted it seems like the Plextor M3 is always close to the middle to last in performance. Again, don't get me wrong, your AS SSD score blows my system out of the water (with my shitty Marvell controller = no real 6 Gb/s ports), it just doesn't seem like the best option today IMO, that's all. Also, I'm going to assume that score you posted is normal at best on newer systems with newer SSD's, no? It beats mine by a great margin but my system is old.LOL what? Bottom of performance? Here's mine
What benchmarks are you using as a comparison in these reviews? Atto? If so that means nothing. I understand you're on socket 1366, and if I was in your situation and didn't plan to upgrade for a long time, I would most certainly go with what's cheapest of the m4, M3, 830, and PP. I own an m4, 830, and an M3, all of which are 256GB. Using the same PC, the m4 hits ~700, the 830 hits ~765, and you've already seen the M3. Either way, the other two don't bench like the M3 and it's not "normaI" for an 830 or m4 to hit 900+ using Z77. In fact, I'd say its actually impossible lol.
That aside, I always tell people to go with the m4 if they care about price, but to follow this if they don't. Naturally this is my opinion based on what I have owned and what I've read. I left out Intel/Vertex 4, because I don't feel I can accurately place them. The reason the the 256GB m4 is lowered a rank, is due to its 8KB nand page size, and you can even see the 128GB m4 outpacing the 256GB flavor in many reviews/benchmarks. Where the 256GB m4 does win however, is in price. Some people care about price, whereas others don't, but the 256GB M3 crushes the 256GB m4 in every Sata III benchmark I've ever seen.
128GB - Plextor M3 Pro > Corsair Performance Pro = Plextor M3 = Samsung 830 = m4
256GB - Plextor M3 Pro > Corsair Performance Pro = Plextor M3 = Samsung 830 > m4
512GB - Plextor M3 Pro > Plextor M3 = Samsung 830 = m4
If you want the latest and greatest then the OCZ Vertex 4 series is, to my knowledge, quite literally "The Best". I have a 128GB Vertex 4 and it has been nothing short of amazing!
Vertex 4 has a 5 year warranty too!
I will not say anything bad about the Vertex 4 that uses a Marvell controller, because it seems to be a great SSD. You're also correct about the 5 year warranty, but have you ever dealt with an RMA through OCZ? I have and it's not fun
I will not say anything bad about the Vertex 4 that uses a Marvell controller, because it seems to be a great SSD. You're also correct about the 5 year warranty, but have you ever dealt with an RMA through OCZ? I have and it's not fun
Actually it uses a dual ARM based Indilinx Infused Everest 2 controller...which I believe is the best there is.
Look, I know OCZ has had tons of issues in the past, but reliability issues aside (which there doesn't seem to be any with the Vertex 4...or at least nothing worse than every other manufacturer) the Vertex 4 is IN FACT the BEST CONSUMER SSD at this current point in time. They are the fastest. Period.
As far as reliability, they seem to be top notch boasting Intel NAND chips and other high quality components...so I don't see reliability being an issue at all.
Either way, my vote still goes to the Vertex 4...that is if you really want the best performance, if not, go with someone else
it uses indilinx firmware on a marvell controller.
it's too early to tell the issues with the vertex 4. It's also not the fastest once you use more than 50% of the space. Not that having the fastest ssd is also the best, just look at how reliable some of ocz's previous drives were.
If you want the shadiest manufacturer with a known bad track record and bad business practices then I agree, get the ocz.
it's too early to tell the issues with the vertex 4. It's also not the fastest once you use more than 50% of the space. Not that having the fastest ssd is also the best, just look at how reliable some of ocz's previous drives were.
If you want the shadiest manufacturer with a known bad track record and bad business practices then I agree, get the ocz.
Yes, it's a rebadged Marvell controller, just like they and other companies rebadge power supplies, memory, and a lot of other components.
Indilinx made hardware like the Indilinx Barefoot, before OCZ bought them up. It's no different than the component examples I provided above, and the Vertex 4 uses Indilinx (OCZ) firmware on a Marvell controller like Bbq mentioned. The news on this broke via Anand back in April, so this is very old news lol. Could they come out with their own controller in the future? Sure, but that hasn't happened yet.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5741/ocz-confirms-octane-and-vertex-4-use-marvell-based-silicon
I am not a fan of OCZ.. to many past issues with the sandforce controllers. Looks like the 830 and M3 Pro trade blows.. just depends on what website you are on. I am trying to decide if its worth going to the 256gb over the 128gb.. I dont use much space on my OS drive and can probably get a way with the 128gb but does the 256gb perform any better in real world use?
Myself I got an intel 330 120 gb (for 105$) for that price you can't go wrong, unless you really need the extra speed the more expensive drive out, personally I'm running on a sata II port so these extra fancy drive will not bring anything more.
Chose the new intel SDD over other brands cause might as well get a later generation SSD and intel I usually trust more then the other (well never had a bad CPU or chipset, but got bad RAM left and right from the other brands).
The reviews of the 330 are quite good actually worth looking into it.
Chose the new intel SDD over other brands cause might as well get a later generation SSD and intel I usually trust more then the other (well never had a bad CPU or chipset, but got bad RAM left and right from the other brands).
The reviews of the 330 are quite good actually worth looking into it.
Nobody would notice any difference in performance between the drives. The only time it would be detectable is in the benchmarks. Also, keep in mind review sites test differently and the Plextor M3 and M5S beats the Samsung or Intel 520 in other reviews.
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I agree that almost all of it is unnoticeable in real world day to day tasks. I guess I'm just personally trying to find who the true SSD speed kings currently are.
As for OCZ SSD's, I have one, I've had to jump on many firmware updates trying to stop a weird random one to a few second hang/stutter/freeze (like this guy but mine has been there) that's been present ever since I've owned it (occurring just enough to annoy). I'll admit I haven't jumped through every hoop to try and fix it but at this point I need more than 120GB (111GB) for a primary anyway so I no longer care....lol. Just the fact it's been present through different firmwares makes me think a different SSD all together is the fix.
I'm actually contemplating an RMA after I get my new SSD just to see how bad it really is there (I'm still within the 3 year warranty). Maybe they'd give me a Vertex 4 that doesn't stutter but I doubt it and still 120GB isn't enough, for me.
Don't all SSD's suffer from this in some form? I need around 200-250GB for my primary so I feel that I should buy two 240GB SSD's and RAID them (but still I'm going to lose TRIM)
or a 5125GB SSD just so my performance doesn't drastically drop when it becomes around half full (give or take).Don't all SSD's suffer from this in some form? I need around 200-250GB for my primary so I feel that I should buy two 240GB SSD's and RAID them (but still I'm going to lose TRIM)
According to Anand, Samsung or marvel disks get back to full speed after a TRIM run
It's a pretty well known fact that the Everest 2 is Marvell Silicon and Indilinx firmware. Honestly, to me, I don't give a shit who's silicon it is. OCZ/Indilinx made the drive and the firmware and it's fast. That's all I care about.