NEC 2690 compared to my current OLD LCD

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brick33308

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I'm buying a new Vista machine when available in January. Strongly leaning toward NEC 2690 which hopefully will be available then. I want a S-IPS panel for my photo processing, I'm not into games and don't intend to watch movies on the monitor. Nonetheless, I want a bigger screen than I’ve got now (18” Dell LCD – specifications are at http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/1800FP/English/specs.htm), and I like the idea of a wide screen where I’ll have plenty of room for pictures on one side with photoshop tools, etc. on the other side.

I don't understand a lot of the technical details relating to resolution and pixel size, and can't seem to get a handle on how this panel will look compared to my current panel which, to my untrained eyes, looks pretty good.

Currently I sit about 22” away from my 18” Dell which has 1280 x 1024 resolution. I don’t see any pixilation/screen door effect whatsoever on it. Can someone give me an idea how far away I’ll need to sit from the NEC 2690 in order to not see screen door effect, and by sitting farther away, will I have trouble reading screen text?

Also, do you think that a 26” widescreen is too big for non-gamers and should I be looking at a 24” instead? The Dell 24” doesn’t appeal to me because it’s a PVA and because I’ve heard it’s too bright.

Any and all opinions on this topic welcomed.
 
Well… you likely have an ISP screen now (a thinly veiled rebadged LG monitor) . My first LCD was an 1800FP I got in April 2003, and its an IPS; but how Dell switches venders, I don’t know about yours. Very nice screen for its day BTW.

Here is a website that might help.
http://www.tvcalculator.com/

Here is a comparison I made for you based on the screens you spoke of .
http://tvcalculator.com/index.html?92ea81744c86a4cf8b200748fd8951dd


The short of it is you will get a little over 2X the screen area with the NEC. However, there will be a reduction in pixel density by about 15%. Not a huge amount though; the difference between the two will be like going from a high resolution laptop screen to the 1800FP – if you are familiar with that type of situation. To correct for it, just place the monitor away from you more...should be fine for most people.

I do not know your setup, but I would suggest doing a dual screen setup, where the 1800FP is a secondary monitor for you to ‘throw’ things. This is assuming you have dual outputs and the room.

I'm the type where I notice the change - I got a 1907FP dell to replce the 1800FP, and I noticed the change. I'm now using a Apple 23 display - and LOVE IT. I think they will be out with a 24 inch at the same resolution soon, but I would take the 23 inch one over it becase I would notice the difference.
 
That's a great link, I'm saving this for future use =). A small nitpik on the details though, the 18" is a 5:4 rather than a 4:3 and the NEC is 25.5" rather than 27".

brick33308: I am in a similar situation to you but on top of photography painting and 3D I'll be using it for a bit of games and video too. I am going to wait for some reviews of this monitor first but from the specification and NECs history I'm 95% sure I'm going to buy it when it comes out.
 
Bacillus, thanks, that's very helpful information.

I'm starting to think I should get a 23" display for my purposes, assuming I can find a S-IPS one.

Other questions: If I go with the NEC26, will I experience screen door effect by viewing it from less than 3 feet away?

Also, at 3 feet away, will text be hard to read?
 
brick33308 said:
Bacillus, thanks, that's very helpful information.

I'm starting to think I should get a 23" display for my purposes, assuming I can find a S-IPS one.

Other questions: If I go with the NEC26, will I experience screen door effect by viewing it from less than 3 feet away?

Also, at 3 feet away, will text be hard to read?
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Here is an updated link – I did it wrong.

http://tvcalculator.com/index.html?1337badc63ccd239b72dbc889352b003

When I got the ACD a few months ago – part of the reason I did was because it was the only S-IPS screen in that size with the updated panel I wanted, and the PVA ones in portrait view were just not acceptable. Technically, any 1920X1200 monitor is presenting the same amount of information, and you can move the monitor back to adjust for ones with less pixel density. However, you loose the advantage of the size since, as you move it back, you are decreasing the perceived size. Since I need glasses to see things clearly past 3 feet, I went with a screen that would give me the optimal experience for distances less than 3 feet – which was a high pixel density type like the ACD and do not use glasses.

I did not want to leave you with the impression that the ACD is the cats ass – its not. It has one DVI-D input, does not play well with XP and limiting scaling options. However, for my needs – its great. In short, YMMV.

Also, I do notice things like pixel density - some it does not bother, but for me it does. Just like, I don’t have a problem with CRT, but others I know cannot look at one for more than 15 minutes at lower refresh rates. To see if you do, go to BestBuy or the like and look at their high end laptops at arms length, and draw a comparison with the 1800FP you have now. For comparision the fourth screen in the link about is for a MacBookPro, 17 inch model . This might be an extreme example, but the point is valid that most high end laptop screens have a higher density – and are a great way to see if you prefer it to the other.


If you want my suggestion (s) – here they are
1. Look at a 24 inch, the same model line you were looking at before, just the smaller 24 inch screen if pixel density is an issue
2.Wait for Apple to refresh their ACD’s, the word is its in the next two weeks.
3. If you have dual link DVI, look at the Dell or HP 30 inch ones with the new fancy pants backlights - they are even better then the 23 ACD that I have. I really wanted one, by my new iMac cannot do it. :(
 
Actually I was strongly looking at the Dell 30, but was concerned that viewing text in its native resolution would be two small, and that I'd then have to move this very large screen to under 2' away.
 
Well, it seems like if you're doing photography/graphic work then the obvious choice would be a NEC 2690 by the look of its spec sheet. There aren't any review on this monitor yet but if you're not in a hurry to get one, just wait and see how the monitor will stack up against others. I don't believe the NEC 2690 is out in the US yet but hopefully sometime in January.
 
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