NCASE M1 v2 Build Thread

Discussion in 'Small Form Factor Systems' started by Moogoos, May 29, 2014.

  1. Moogoos

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    The original thread is so huge and I'm really only interested in the delivery of v2 in August sometime. Thought I'd start a thread specific to this version to share ideas and builds on it. Not sure if there is one. What do you guys plan for yours when you get it? I plan on moving from a sugo05 to:

    Black M1 v2
    Gigabyte WiFi Board
    16GB RAM
    i7 4770
    EVGA FTW GTX 780
    500GB Samsung EVO
    1TB Hybrid 2.5
    Windows 7/Hackintosh

    Not sure what to do about cooling. Thinking I'll go/try water all the way around as I plan on this being my permanent rig for quite awhile. Don't have a lot of experience except for AIO units like H60/H75/H80

    Edit: Adding Necere's M1 Image Gallery

    http://imgur.com/a/zOoA2
     
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  2. 86 5.0L

    86 5.0L [H]ardness Supreme

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    silver v2
    4770k
    asrock z87e-itx
    780ti or titan
    16GB
    256GB samsung msata drive
    sfx-l psu

    and a h220 + gpu waterblock setup.

    may or may not try a blu ray drive, and stuffing a pair of 4tb drives somewhere
     
  3. Carbon_Le

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    Black v2
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    Asus maximus impact
    Corsair 16gb
    Samsung evo 1tb ssd
    780 ti
    Sfx psu
    Maybe a corsair h100i if it fits properly.
     
  4. Peter_364

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    I did have a pretty good idea of what I was going to put in mine
    4770k
    780 Ti
    Impact VI
    Slim optical drive
    500GB solid state
    And custom water-cooling with the EK PE rad however this plan is going to fail because i don't think I have the funds, so I am either going to build a less supreme computer or save up my money until maxwell and broadwell come out as well as the silver stone 600W PSU and impact VII
     
  5. pavel

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    What if we're not sure about it? :) I mean, I want to get this case but 'the budget!' :)

    I would get the silver one with no slim ODD
    i5-4590
    gtx 750
    Samsung evo 250GB
    Crucial Ballistix Sport VLP 16gb
    Asus Z97i-plus
    sfx psu (not sure which one)
    Corsair H80i - does that fit? How loud is it?

    I only own the video card so far.

    Is the case overkill for my needs? I really like the versatility of it, though. Heck, I might turn into a gamer...no, better not. :)

    'Windows 7/Hackintosh' - how difficult is it to do that? :)

    I'd go with DC if I was overclocking but cpu + M1 Case is probably out of my ballpark. :)

    Originally, I was looking at the Sugo SG05.
     
  6. Topweasel

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    H100i from Corsair or the H220 (or CM Glacier 240L which is the same model) have been tested to fit. Some other 240mm might work but those are the two everyone else pretty much used for AIO H2O on the v1. I am in fact using a rare quad fan H100i setup.
     
  7. Hanakuso

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    push/pull with slim fans?

    My build will be moved over from the original Ncase. My original Ncase will probably be built on a very tight budget for web browsing and light gaming.
     
  8. Topweasel

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    Yes push pull with Scythe Slipstreams. Probably not an optimal solution but seems to work well enough (34c at 75F room temp for Idle, high fifties low 60's at load). I wanted to try 4 lower RPM fans rather then two large fast fans that came with it.
     
  9. Carbon_Le

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    Thanks topweasel for the info. Cant wait until the case arrives.
     
  10. phillai

    phillai n00bie

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    When I eventually get my NCASE M1 v2, I'm going to need some inspiration (and pictures) from you guys as regards to the best configuration for me.

    I'm going to need this as quiet as possible with the best cooling fan combinations bearing in mind I will be having the Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD as a boot drive and also have 3 x 4TB 3.5" hard drives.

    I'll also be doing some light overclocking! :D

    Do I water cool my CPU and what's the maximum number of case fans that I can put in and also in what type of push/pull air combination?
     
  11. Necere

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    What did you have in mind for the GPU? That's the biggest source of heat, and will affect the rest of your build choices the most. I have to tell you, cramming 3x3.5" HDDs in the case with a GPU, while possible, isn't something I'd recommend.
     
  12. Phuncz

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    For those drives, I recommend you look at something like this: http://www.synology.com/en-global/products/overview/DS414j
     
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  14. phillai

    phillai n00bie

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    Right, I think I get it!

    So if I use the NCASE M1 v2 as my primary PC, could I get away with using just my Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD and 1 x 4TB drive?

    All the other storage that I would have put in my 3 x 4TB drives, I could put to my other HP MicroServer.

    Necere, I'm definitelty thinking a very quiet mid range NVIDIA card this time in my new build.
     
  15. Moogoos

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    Those microservers are pretty cool. They can run this.
     
  16. pavel

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    I want to achieve the same with this goal of yours:
    "I'm going to need this as quiet as possible with the best cooling fan combinations"

    Without all the HDDs. :) I will have some HDDs, but I plan on having them in enclosures. When I need them, I'll plug them in (USB 3.0, mostly).

    I also want low-noise and will wonder what fans to use and which cooling. Plan on using the same SSD.

    I bought a used Nvidia GTX 750. It's not dead quiet but it's not noisy. It's also short (EVGA). Not much for gaming but the other components I want to invest in, not the video card for now.

    Btw, Necere, thanks for the gallery link!
     
  17. CHANG3D

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    for those of you with the experience of water cooling your GPU in the US, where do you get the parts? i don't see many preassembled card like those from EVGA if any.
     
  18. Moogoos

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    im wondering the same thing.
     
  19. WiSK

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    FrozenCPU and PerformancePCs are the go-to online vendors for watercooling in the US.

    The reason to buy EVGA for watercooling is because they are the only GPU vendor that doesn't mind you removing the stock heatsink, and will accept RMA even if you have water cooled your card. At least, they were the only watercooling friendly manufacturer. Anyone correct me if I'm out of date about that. Maybe others have relaxed RMA rules recently.
     
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    There is a couple of planned EVGA HydroCopper in the plans on the Google spreadsheet, but no one has confirmed to have assembled one. I'm wondering if it fits, cause getting a reference EVGA card and a EKWP cooler seems to be the more expensive way to do this; so why isn't just getting the HydroCopper more popular?
     
  21. Phuncz

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    I think the EK blocks are the cheaper ones, atleast in the EU. Fullcover blocks can be had for less than 100€. Also, don't forget to check for block width (or height), the EK fits but some extend to far from the motherboard to fit.
     
  22. CHANG3D

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    Let me check the price... You're right it is cheaper to piece together from third party such as EKWP $118 (frozenCPU) for reference 780/780 Ti/Titan cooler.

    From EVGA, a reference GTX 780 is $520. The basic HydroCopper is $680, and a factory overclocked one is $720. The reference GTX 780 Ti is $800, with HydroCopper and factory overclock is $1000. Not to mention the HydroCoppers are out of stock and has been that way for a while.
     
  23. WiSK

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    Rumour is that EVGA has dropped Swiftech as supplier of w/c blocks and has made a new deal with EKWB instead.
     
  24. Moogoos

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    Oh my god. Someone used you're correctly in a forum. I love this place.
     
  25. WiSK

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    Oh hi ;)
     
  26. Moogoos

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    lol.

    yoo basturd
     
  27. CHANG3D

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    Evidently this forum is filled with engineers. I'm not even the only rocket scientist here!
     
  28. tetrismaster

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    How are temps if I throw on a passive heatsink on the CPU, but with dual 120mm fans on the bracket blowing right at the heatsink? I'm planning to use an i5, no overclocking.
     
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  29. AFD

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    Probably depends on which heatsink it is, and it's distance from the fan. Not sure how you'll get the front-most fan directed toward the heatsink, though.. maybe use rubber screws with some washers on one side to angle the fan backwards?

    I have a C12 heatsink with a single 120mm fan mounted on the side bracket.. is that kinda what you mean? Not exactly passive, just a 15mm gap between fan & heatsink.. temps are pretty good (not great, but not bad).
     
  30. Phuncz

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    It's only passive if it doesn't have an indirect flow of air. You are just "spacing" the fan. If the airflow is still directly over the heatsink, it will perform well, but a fan with higher static pressure is preferred.
     
  31. tetrismaster

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    Thanks for the assurance. Ideas on which CPU cooler would be best to run pseudo-passively?
     
  32. Phuncz

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    One that extends the heatsink as close to the fan as possible :p
    Check the one in the Ncase M1 thread's start post, with the thermal testing.
     
  33. EdZ

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    Black M1 with ODD slot (might go external anyway if the supply of slim slotloaders dry up)

    GA-Z77N-WiFi
    2500k
    GTX 670
    2x8GB DDR3-1600 ebay special
    Silverstone 300W SFZ PSU (might nab the 500W SFX-l depending on when it;s released. 300W should be sufficient for the 2500k and GTX670 anyway)
    1x SSD, 2x 3.5" HDD (may migrate down to 1 and move stuff to the server)

    Mostly done on-the-cheap using kit I'm already using in the Black Monolith of Computing, but may be upgraded to Broadwell and Maxwell if they turn out to be a big step up.
     
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    v2 has not been manufactured or shipped yet. Preorders are still being taken, but the minimum order quantity through Lian Li has been reached and those who ordered should expect the cases to be produced.

    Visit ncases to see more info.
     
  36. JoeOnePack

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    Well damn. All that excitement for nothing. :D
     
  37. Phuncz

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    http://imgur.com/a/zOoA2

    The M1 rev 2 is not a new case, it's a slightly tweaked version but still looks 99,5% the same as the original M1. Most of the changes are millimeter adjustments to allow a little more compatibility and options.
     
  38. JamboAU

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    Some beautiful rigs on this site. Can’t wait to get my silver M1 v2 after missing out last time! I’d also love some feedback on a planned build direction if possible

    Purpose is gaming, media centre, storage. Overclocking not a priority but I’d like to explore it down the track. Will be flown in carry-on luggage a few times a year.

    ST45SF-G
    Asrock Z97E-ITX/ac
    4670K
    R9 290 with reference blower
    Sandisk Extreme II SSD
    Need to fit 2x 3.5” HDDs, so single 120mm AIO rad or air cooling? I was thinking Corsair H60 SE because it’s a lot lighter than some air coolers. Will I need case fans also? It can get hot where I live in summer.
    Corsair Vengeance CML8GX3M2A1600C9 2x4G… was recommended to me but I’m not sure what would be most suitable for this case/cooling

    Thanks :)
     
  39. JaccoW

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    Business Engineer here. So I am a fake one, just one with more sense of money. :p

    I ordered a black M1 with additional silver panels. If I ever change my mind later.

    The main goal is to replace my current pc, a Zalman Z-Machine GT-1000, C2Q-9550 + 460GTX rig.
    I am looking for a much more compact, quiet setup that I can keep on my desk without casting a shadow on and also to simply get a lot more room to work on on my desk.
    So the 5.1 receiver is going in favour of a much smaller stereo set.

    It will be used for quiet, gaming, some 3D work and just sitting there being pretty. :D

    Crosspost from the original thread:
    [​IMG]
    Though the CPU, GPU and stuff is still unclear. I probably need a bit of time to gather all the money so there is a good chance I will skip this hardware generation and wait for the next one.

    I plan to watercool the case and mount an Aquacomputer Aquatube res on the back. Though I will need to design a custom mount for it. :)
    [​IMG]
     
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  40. Curiositie

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    Silver V2, ODD slot

    Gigabyte H77N-WiFi
    EVGA 750ti
    i5 3570K
    840 EVO 120GB
    WD blue 320GB
    Crucial Ballistix VLP
    Seasonix X650 [Temporary]

    I'm not sure what I'm going to do for the CPU cooler yet.
    I've got an old style H50, but I'm not sure that'll fit so I'm looking at the Noctua NH-U9B SE2.

    Eventually I'll use a Fractal Design Kelvin S24 with a EK Thermosphere for the 750ti and NB eLoops.