NAS setups

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  1. Hashiriya415

    Hashiriya415 [H]Lite

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    Please post what kind Hardware and Software you have. Pictures would be nice.
    I myself am mostly interested in learning to setup movie playback on devices at home and outside.
     
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  2. JeffBlair

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    MB: ASRock Dual Xeon E5-2650 64G memory
    External Array: SE3016-SAS connected via SAS cable
    OS: ESXi
    Host OS: Linux/Windows
    Linux is running software RAID6, and has the data shared to my Windows OS. To stream my movies, I'm using Emby in Windows.
    But, I'm about to move everything into a Norco 24 bay case so I can have everything in 1 case.
     
  3. jevans64

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    I just bought a turnkey system instead of putting one together. Mine is an Asustor AS6210T and holds 10 disks. 62 TB of storage ( 10 * 8TB HGST NAS drives ) on hand in RAID-6 and takes up less than a square foot of space. Up to three additional 4-bay expansion chassis can be added to it for another 12 drives. I have most of my BD collection archived on the NAS and in the process of doing 1:1 rips of my 4K discs.
     
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    Do you store your rips in .mkv? I dont have enough BDs to requure 62GB of space, but interested nonetheless!
     
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    Yes. I'm copying new rips over as I type now, so I can give you the skinny on some numbers. I'm using 45.6 TB of 62.2 TB -- 265 movies in 2k and 26 movies in 4k. 8TB of that are TV series. The 4k movies take up on average 55GB to 60GB each. I should be able to rip my entire BD/4k collection and still have around 30% storage left. The additional expansion units can hold 4 * 12TB each but 4-bays isn't a optimal solution for RAID-6. Hopefully, Asus will make an 8-bay or 10-bay expansion.
     
  7. Skillz

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    I've got a 10 core Xeon setup in an X99 board w/ 6x 3TB drives 1x 8TB drive and 2x 1TB drives. Running Windows 7 Pro. No RAID setup, each disk holds it's own library of movies/shows that I stream to all my devices using Plex Media Server.
     
  8. Hashiriya415

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    How many people can a router with USB hard drive support? Say 4k (~20gb size) and 1080p (~5gb) movies
    Please let me know if there are some good budget routers.
     
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    Skillz [H]ard DCOTY 2017

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    For Plex? I don't think any reasonable consumer grade router or even pro consumer grade router can handle 4K transcoding for even a single user. It takes some serious crunching power to handle that. 1080P probably wont be very doable either.

    Now, if you are sending the file directly to the client for it to transcode and/or running PMS on a desktop/server and fetching the files from the hard drive connected to the USB port on a router then it can handle as many as the USB port's throughput can handle. (probably around 5 if USB 3.0)
     
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    Yes I meant sending the file directly to the client for it to transcode.
     
  11. Skillz

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    Then it depends on the USB port throughput.
     
  12. Spartacus09

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    I think it'd be more dependent on the network connection and/or drive speed as most of the routers are usb 3.0.

    Define budget router, the last thing you want to do is cheap out and have poor performance.
    Assuming a computer with cache capability initial peaking with Plex is around 200-225Mbps for about 10 seconds.
    A 20Gb 4k movie is about 50-60Mbps sustained after.
    A 5gb 1080p movie is about 10-15Mbps sustained after.

    You can extrapolate from there, that being said keep in mind the seek time and head location variation from accessing different files from a single drive vs an array.
    I would only aim for 1 or 2 - 4k streams and 3 or 4 - 1080p on a single hard drive, thats assuming you're not running plex itself on the router, if you are likely only 1-4k and 2-1080p.

    Keeping mind the sending the file directly is impacted solely on the receiving client's capability.
    A basic apple tv or roku wont be able to handle 4k easily, about the only thing would be a dedicated machine or a nVidia shield I've heard are solid for that as well (but also 250-300$)
     
  13. CAD4466HK

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    I NAS the same way. PII 975BE with 3x 3000GB 5x 1TB 1x 2TB 2x 3TB 2x 4TB 2x 8TB Running W7 Ultimate. With Plex as my back end and Kodi as my front end.
     
  14. Joust

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    I guess this is a call to list our SAN/NAS setups.

    Backup:

    Dual Xeon - about to be decommissioned with a celeron-based solution purely for backup.
    Single Dell/LSI HBA
    6x1TB and 6x4TB drives in it.
    Using FreeNAS

    Primary:

    3570k, 32gb RAM MSI Z77-G45
    2x Dell/LSI HBA's
    16x4TB
    Using FreeNAS

    Both machines are running ZFS2 - a software RAID6 solution, for those that don't play with ZFS.

    In the not distant future, I'll probably be upgrading to 8TB or 10 TB drives. As it sits, I have around 18TB free, but I'm not adding any more chassis.

    FWIW, this setup works great if you have devices that can handle direct play. I can transcode, but 4K would be a heavy lift. Power cost has become a factor for me.
     
  15. Hashiriya415

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    Can we get some pictures of these lovely setups
     
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