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Murtrude

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yo im new at OC'in (sry) i want to know how safe water cooling is cus i want to upgrade from CPU fan. if you guys know a good starter system where any1 can set up and will not break (price is no option and i can't put it together i need a kit) plz let me know thanks!.
 
uhh, alot of kits require assembly.... I guess you could pay Performance-pcs.com to build it in a case, but it would cost alot...

otherwise petras has some good kits or

koolance but IMO they are not to the same quailty as DangerDen, Swifteck, AC or innovateck...


Stay away from the thermaltake big water....

but really if you can not build one stick with air and get a good HSF.... sythe ninja or thermaltake xp-120 or si-120
 
i can put together a kit i just can't really take a bunch of parts without directions.
 
Well most blocks come with mounting instructions if that’s what you’re referring too. If it’s a complete assembly overview your referring to I would start by checking out some of the sticky's here. There is tons of good information and will help you get an idea of what to do. Best advice I was given when I first got into watercooling was plan, plan, and plan some more. My first build I was rather impatient and just wanted to throw something together... I ended up with an overpriced Koolance kit which i found required just as much assembly as a DIY system with worse performance. Second time around I did some research on individual parts, got help from people on the forum, and took my time planning the install out. Couldnt be happier with the end result!

So basically I would recommend putting something together yourself. If you must have a "kit" than I would check out Petra's like others have suggested. His kits arent the ones like thermaltake or koolance will give you... They consist of some of the better components out there.
 
soo do some reserch on parts and put them together got it, but how safe is it? i don't want to end up frying my system cus i did something wrong.
 
Murtrude said:
soo do some reserch on parts and put them together got it, but how safe is it? i don't want to end up frying my system cus i did something wrong.
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Well its really not any safer buying one of those off the shelf kits... I doubt companies like thermaltake or koolance will replace any components in your PC as a result of improper installation.
 
how old are you?

it seems as though you need to do some reseach first..... but it does not sound like to me that you are a good candidate for water cooling... I would really get some good air cooling
 
Regarding your concern for assembly, do you mean in assembling a list of parts or assembling in the actual case?

If your concern is the latter, and you find you arent confident about working with your hardware, I recommend you either:

a) Stay away from watercooling
b) Find a friend you trust with your box and have them install it

I dont have much history with installing hardware, having only swapped a few video cards and power supplies, by no means was I an experienced modder. But I read up on watercooling, downloaded videos off the Danger Den website and generally informed myself. From there, I successfully installed watercooling on my CPU and GPU.

In terms of parts, I recommend you check out Petra's (www.shoppts.com) and see if any of their kits fit your budget/goal. Sound them off an email, they are great at costumer service and should help you out with choosing the right parts.

If you aren't ready to spend 200-300$, invest time in installation and trust someone for installation, stick to air cooling...
 
Murtrude said:
thanks but im gonna go Koolance cus its mininal instalation.
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How so? If you go with the external or internal Koolance systems the amount of installation is just about the same as a DIY system. The only thing a Koolance really has connected already for you is the radiator and pump/res. You still have to cut your hoses to the right lengths, mount the waterblocks, fill/bleed, leak test, etc... But hey, its your money, do what you want man.
 
danks said:
How so? If you go with the external or internal Koolance systems the amount of installation is just about the same as a DIY system. The only thing a Koolance really has connected already for you is the radiator and pump/res. You still have to cut your hoses to the right lengths, mount the waterblocks, fill/bleed, leak test, etc... But hey, its your money, do what you want man.
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the res, pump, and radiator being put together is great because thats less things that can go wrong for a first timer :p
 
Murtrude said:
the res, pump, and radiator being put together is great because thats less things that can go wrong for a first timer :p
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The "risk" of doing something wrong is about the same whether you go Koolance or a DIY setup. Either you follow proper procedures for tube cutting, installation, bleeding, and leak testing or you don't. With Koolance or a DIY setup the outcome is the same.

If you want a "kit", go to petra's. He's got kits for different pricepoints that have quality parts and (I think) complete instructions. The koolance kits aren't the worst thing going, but you get more value for your money from petra's kits or a DIY setup.

I'm a little puzzled as to why you posted here. You seem to be asking for advice, and then you contradict the advice that people give you - for a bad reason at that. It seems like your mind was already made up.
 
nonlnear said:
If you want a "kit", go to petra's. He's got kits for different pricepoints that have quality parts and (I think) complete instructions. The koolance kits aren't the worst thing going, but you get more value for your money from petra's kits or a DIY setup.
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Well, I'd like to think that my instructions are pretty good, but there's obviously room for improvment/revision (will get to that after I finish with those DDC tops). Because of how incredibly open-ended water cooling is, I didn't really put a lot of specific detail in the loop instillation/configuration section aside from laying out general guidelines to follow.

I have version 1.0b of the guide in PDF here, if you want to take a look: http://site.petrastechshop.com/other/PT_WC_Guide.pdf
 
i posted for advice and everyone says make a kit yourself which i don't really want to do so someone else suggested koolance and they look preaty good but i'll also check out petra.
 
Didn't mean to come down hard on you there, No hard feelings. The koolance units really aren't bad. But compare the koolance aquian to Petra's basic kit. (Or if you need to pinch your pennies, look at the lite kit.)

If you were eyeing an exos, compare them with any of petra's kits that are priced below (but close to) the exos' price. There's absolutely no comparison. (Where were you looking at buying the koolance unit? I'm not "up" on where the best prices for it are. I was just using the newegg price.)

Granted, there is a little bit more work that goes into setting up petra's kits, but in the end, it's all in your main box, and you can say that you did it yourself. If you REALLY don't want to do the little bit of extra work, or your case is incredibly cramped, then get a koolance kit. Otherwise roll your sleeves up and have some fun.
 
if you end up buying individual pieces (used or new) and are worried about installation - sometimes you can go to the manufacturer's website and the support section will have manuals to look at or download. i.e. swiftech.
 
yea petra is a lot cheaper....

But does any1 know if This Kit is compatable with ATI X1900XTX?

if it is i think i'll go with that or the exos 2 from koolance lol

BTW what about MoBo Cooling?

2nd BTW that sticky for WC is 2 years old.
 
The GPU block in that kit is from Danger Den. The Danger Den store lists that block as having two mounting options. One of them works for the X1900XTX. The X1900XTX mounting hardware is $1.50 extra from dangerden. It should be something similar from petra's. Just e-mail petra before you order and make sure he knows exactly what you need. He'll take care of you.
 
nonlnear said:
The GPU block in that kit is from Danger Den. The Danger Den store lists that block as having two mounting options. One of them works for the X1900XTX. The X1900XTX mounting hardware is $1.50 extra from dangerden. It should be something similar from petra's. Just e-mail petra before you order and make sure he knows exactly what you need. He'll take care of you.
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We include both the series 1 and series 2 mounting hardware with our Maze4 GPU blocks--making people buy extra hardware is rather tacky.

In short, yes, the Maze4 GPU is compatible with the X1900XTX.
 
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