My Processor is Hot as Heck

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SilentScope

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I just bought a brand new AMD 3500+ Venice from Newegg. I installed it with some Artic Silver 5 and the stock heatsink and fan. It idles at 50-70* centigrade! It should be idling at 30* too. I have 4 fans in my PC with optimal placement for airflow (The ambient temp. is 25* C) Everything is cool except for the CPU. The heatsink and fan is installed correctly with cool air blowing onto the heatsink & CPU. I think a sensor is broken, since both Speedfan, Everest, and BIOS say the same things. Help! I have even changed the RAM placement to see if it did any good. (It didn't)
 
it probably is a sensor try just touching the heatsink when your pc is on and see if its that hot, although i would try reseating carefully again
 
Sorry, but if the processor is idling at 50-70C either the board is borked (the sensor should NOT be that far off) or the HSF is seated incorrectly. 50-70C is a very large range, and idle temps should be much lower and remain consistant.
 
unhook the latch and wiggle the heatsink back and forth while pulling up with some force but not much
 
then maybe try turning it in a circle while pulling up, if u have the latch up then its just the seal that is not letting it come up so try that
 
I pulled this ltach/lever thing up so it unlocked, but there are hooks connecting it to the socket, and I can't get those off.
 
There has to be some handle that pushes those clips down, once again you have to use some force but not brute force.

You can also see if there's a notch on those clips to stick in a slim screwdriver, you can push it down that way as well. Just be super careful that it doesn't slip, or you'll scratch a trace on the motherboard.

Fun isn't it?
 
Did you break plastic or metal?

If you broke plastic you're still ok, just a little harder but....

If you broke metal then it should come off easily now.

I should have been specific and told you to look for the metal clip aka "hooks" with a notch cut into it :(
 
hmm, really odd, have never heard of the spring clips breaking like that before.

Any way of taking close up pics and posting them?

The timm *may* be hardened, causing your heatsink to be stuck to your processor. If your heatsink is still seated firmly on your processor, you could fire it up so it heats up a little bit, then it ought to come off much easier. Edit: never mind, i can see you're using arctic silver, and not the stock timm.

Otherwise do you know somebody who lives nearby that's good with this stuff? you might need a skilled hand at this point...

Otherwise proceed even more carefully, and g'luck either way. Will keep trying to help as needed.
 
Ahh, you're still ok. The metal clips visible in pics 2 and 3 appear intact.

You need to find a way of pushing them "down" then "outwards", this might require using two screwdrivers, one for pushing the clip downwards, and the other to slip underneath and push outwards. You can work on whatever side provides the most clearance.

I could be wrong but i don't see a notch for a screwdriver, which just means you need to proceed even more carefully. For added protection you could insert a slim piece of plastic (credit card slim) underneath to prevent you from accidently scratching the motherboard.
 
I am so fucked. This is impossible to do...I just can't seem to get it off. Right now I am convinced that the mobo is screwy, since the heatsink seemed to be seated properly, and it was cool after running.
 
edited my post above, added more info, hope it helps.

I've had similar troubles btw, but i ended up figuring it out one way or another. Sometimes those clips are on too darn tight...

You might need another persons help here, sometimes two hands aren't enough.
 
SilentScope said:
and it was cool after running.
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If the heatsink is cool after running, and your temp sensors are reporting that you're idling that high, then it sounds like its improprely seated.
 
I can't get off the heatsink to check... It must be properly seated, sicne I followed the instructions perfectly.
 
SilentScope said:
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In picture #1 it appears that the locking lever (that black plastic thing) is in the locked position - are you undoing that before you try unlatching the metal? Once that is undone, put a large flat screw-driver in the metal part that on the opposite side that looks like it's perfect for a screw-driver. When in securely, push down and then move in towards the heatsink. It should come off of the little plastic notch on the motherboard and then you'll be good.
 
Orinthical said:
In picture #1 it appears that the locking lever (that black plastic thing) is in the locked position - are you undoing that before you try unlatching the metal? Once that is undone, put a large flat screw-driver in the metal part that on the opposite side that looks like it's perfect for a screw-driver. When in securely, push down and then move in towards the heatsink. It should come off of the little plastic notch on the motherboard and then you'll be good.
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I tried, and the metal broke off. The latch was in the unmlocked position in that pic. I just can't get it off....
 
It seems to me like you've broken off the metal piece that is on the metal "locking hinge" that is there to hold your flat head screw driver in place for easy leverage.

It looks to me like you only got 1 locking hinge. The side you should open is on the left according to your first picture. Press down the end of that metal locking hinge (the part where the metal curves downward), use a screwdriver to push the bottom tip of the locking hinge outward (as in, away from the cpu) and then stop pressing it down and it should pop up on its own with the tension. (braising the screw driver against the heatsink).

The metal hinge is only about 1mm thick and it has a square hole that "locks" in a plastic stub that sticks out on the cpu mounting plate. By pushing it outward (away from the cpu) you are unhooking it, and the tension should just spring the heatsink off.
 
Yes! After much prying, I got the heatsink off. I then cleaned it with ISo-Alcohol, and I re-applied the AS5. I then put the heatsink back on just like the instructions said, and I plugged it back in. Now it idles at 63*C-46*C. I say mobo fuckup, does anyone else agree?
 
I don't recommend it, but the left side on the first picture, slide a flat head into the clip, push down, and pull the handle of the screwdriver towards the center of the fan, then let it come up.

That should get it off, just be extremely careful you don't slip and put a hole in the motherboard.

EDIT: Nevermind, but it should never be that difficult to remove a heatsink.
 
If your heatsink still isn't hot, then I would still say there's no heat transfer.... but if it IS hot (uncomfortable after a few seconds of keeping your hands on it) then I guess the sensor is f'ed up.
 
DuyNgn said:
but if it IS hot (uncomfortable after a few seconds of keeping your hands on it) then I guess the sensor is f'ed up.
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Wouldn't that mean it's working :rolleyes:

Since it's reading 60 centigrade... that transfer into the heatsink would make it hot.
 
The heatsink is kind of warm when I touch it. But still, there must be heat transfer if everything is installed correctly.
 
Borgschulze said:
Wouldn't that mean it's working :rolleyes:

Since it's reading 60 centigrade... that transfer into the heatsink would make it hot.
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Oh yea. :p Wasn't thinking.

Bad chip i would guess.
 
Damn the AMD heatsinks are insanely easy to remove, either you have a screwed up mechanism or your lame as hell :p Just messin with ya, glad you got it off, but really they are insanely easy.
 
wee96 said:
Damn the AMD heatsinks are insanely easy to remove, either you have a screwed up mechanism or your lame as hell :p Just messin with ya, glad you got it off, but really they are insanely easy.
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I agree, s462 heatsinks are a pain to remove though.
 
Piece of cake, till the screwdriver slips and goes STRAIGHT THROUGH THE PCB. Yeah, that's fun. :rolleyes: (RIP Sempron Fileserver :( )
 
well you were just being careless :p

I have had that happen though, didnt go through the PCB though. I did kill an IC on a rather expensive P3-s server board though... sucked.
 
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