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Malikman

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in March i will have 1200 dollars for a new computer ... i already have a case,hard drive and dvd rom and a gig of ram (that i'm going to take from my computer .. this is "technically" a upgrade.

What i need is

Processor
M-ATX motherboard
PCI-E GFX
1 GiG Ram
Case (100 dollars i already know which one i want .. cube case)
and i think the case comes with power supply but i might need a good one
Fans (1 and a heatsink probably)

Any ideas guys right now i'm looking at A64 but i'm thinking maybe that might be enough money for a duel core... i'm thinking around 250-300 for a gfx card.. a high endish one (i think)

any ideas would be great on how i can manuever my money to get the best i can with that much (basicaly 1100 becuase i already know what case i'm getting and i'ts around 80 bucks)

Well thanks :)
 
Malikman said:
in March i will have 1200 dollars for a new computer ... i already have a case,hard drive and dvd rom and a gig of ram (that i'm going to take from my computer .. this is "technically" a upgrade.

What i need is

Processor
M-ATX motherboard
PCI-E GFX
1 GiG Ram
Case (100 dollars i already know which one i want .. cube case)
and i think the case comes with power supply but i might need a good one
Fans (1 and a heatsink probably)

Any ideas guys right now i'm looking at A64 but i'm thinking maybe that might be enough money for a duel core... i'm thinking around 250-300 for a gfx card.. a high endish one (i think)

any ideas would be great on how i can manuever my money to get the best i can with that much (basicaly 1100 becuase i already know what case i'm getting and i'ts around 80 bucks)

Well thanks :)
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If you already have a case, hd and ram I think you can definitely go dual core.

X2 3800, Asus Sli-Premium and a 7800 GT will run you great
 
What kind of RAM do you have already? (Because it might do right to replace it, not add to it. If you're interested in overclocking, anyway. If you're not, don't worry too much; also, if you're not going to overclock, just buy a retail processor, they come with pretty good heatsinks; don't spend the money twice.)

If you're getting a "cube case," I'm going to assume that it's m-ATX, which means that you can't use the ASUS A8N-SLI Premium. You'll probably dig any of the nForce 6150 boards out there. They're all comperably featured, and inexpensive. (I'm not kidding when I suggest this: if the case is windowed, pick your board by it's appearance. Because they're all similar, make your decision by their aesthetics; that's what I'll bet you're looking for.) The X2 3800 is a great way to drop your dime, especially when you're saving by not buying an ultra-super-mega-premium board. I wouldn't count on overclocking in a little tiny case, not with air cooling, anyway. If you're feeling adventurous, you can look at the little SFF watercooling kits.

You need a monitor/ input devices/ speakers and shit, too, or can you go nuts on core components?
 
Well i'm not planning on overclocking and sorry i meant to say yea i want m-atx mobo... i can technically go nuts on core components but whatever's "left" over after i'm happy at my core components i could use a nice widescreen. (pref 19" above widescreen but yea i'm not too picky and pref lcd becuase i am a guy who wants small and easy to move around (as you can tell by cube case) not a lot movingm so if it's CRT no big deal but just saying. Also SLI isn't that for dual video cards? also im not saying i want amd or pentium haven't figured that out but by my money patterns i'm thinking i can get a dual core and maybe a fx series ...(aren't they better than X2 not positive). Also with the ram yea i don't plan on OCing so i figured i'd just add to it i might HAVE to get 2 gigs worth again becuase i have like 2 512's or something so if i am getting m-atx idk how many ram slots and all. But anyways i think that's al the isues you guys said about... and i'm thinking air cooling in a little case not Water cooling. I think air cooling will be enough even with me gaming (hence the upgrade kinda)
 
Cube case: $100 (includes PSU)
GeForce 6150: $85
Retail X2 3800 OR 64 4000: $335 (includes heatsink)
7800GT: $300
2x1gb RAM: $165 (optional?)

Subtotal: $885

For monitors, I like Shuttle for portability, ($400 for 17") and Viewsonic for ASS KICKING. ($300) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116359 small, light, unprecedented response times.)
 
I need a gaming Video card is that a good one (responding to the above $85 gfx)

as well if i do get a monitor i'd really prefer a widescreen.
 
Unfortunately, for $1200 you can either get a computer or a decent wide-screen display, not both. You can find some (sadly) low-resolution displays for around $300, or a really good 4:3 monitor.
 
Malikman said:
I need a gaming Video card is that a good one (responding to the above $85 gfx)

as well if i do get a monitor i'd really prefer a widescreen.
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The Geforce 6150 would be a motherboard. The 7800GT would be a great videocard as he listed.
 
Whoops, my fault. I should have written nForce 6150. Thanks Ruffian, sorry about the confusion.
 
Er, $165 for two paired sticks of RAM totalling two gigs. Maybe $175.

You might not want a 19" LCD with these two considerations: first, they cost more. By no small margin, either. All things being equal, of two comprably-priced LCD monitors, the 17" will be nicer. Probably. Second: the physics that determine the rate at which the crystals align themselves into your crisp scenery operate faster with smaller pixel controllers. 17" and 19" displays both generally have the same resolution, (1280x1024) therefor, 17" displays render images faster.

For what it's worth, a 12ms response time is analogous to a 75hz refresh rate. If you find a 19" monitor for three or four hundred bucks that you like the reviews of and it has a 12 milisecond response time or lower, you probably will never see any of the "ghosting" effects.

By the way, response time in miliseconds and grey-to-grey response time in miliseconds are different. G-to-G is more accurate, but much faster; rule of thumb: double it, it will give you your "standard" response time. (IIRC, it's been a while.)
 
ok i c... i also could not get a 17 inch and just get a big CRT ... not positive on that yet.
 
Shop brick and mortar for CRTs if you're considering it. They sometimes come close to the same pricetag for comperable displays without a $50 shipping cost.
 
do you know how much a CRT is? if i got a CRT i'd probably "try" to look at 20"er's in that area becuase CRT's r cheaper i believe?
 
hmmm yea we'l see i might not even get a monitor but it could be needed. Thanks though :) i will kep loking and by march update and officaly sy what i'm getting :) starting to look now so i don't make stupid choicse haha.
 
AMD 64 3800x2 -320
eVGA 7800 GT -370ish
** i would highly suggest the combo deal which includes the free mobo
everyone so far said that mobo which comes free is decent

2 gigs of value ram -140
(i would check down in the hot deal section,,, i believe i saw 2 gigs for 140 area)
your choice of case -100?

I would suggest building the computer first and then getting an lcd a little down the road when you have money
For 19" LCD
viewsonic vx924 350ish
or samsung 930BF 330ish
 
For four hundred bucks, and shipping on top of that? Those are British Pounds, not United States Dollars. Also, it's maximum resolution looks to be 1440 x 900, which is pretty low. I mean, it's better than 1024 x 768, but I'd go through that kind of working space like it was nothing. If you're really looking forward to a 16:9 display, buy an inexpensive CRT and save up for a really good Dell monitor, or something similar.

Desktop and laptop AMD chips are rated across all lines by a number, from way back when below the 1000s to the current X2 4800 at the top. The exeptions are the Opteron series, which are for servers, and the FX series, which are designed to allow enthusiasts to "play" with. This makes it easy to compare AMD chips; they're already compared against each other.

AMD FX- chips are called "unlocked" because you can change the front side bus multiplier upwards; they're for high-end overclockers (and are priced as such) who really drive them with force and ridiculous cooling. Only the FX60 is a dual-core processor. The X2 series are all dual-core chips; the X2 3800 is the same as two 64 3200s, the X2 4200 is the same as two 64 3500s, and the X2 4400 is the same as two 64 3700s.

Since you're not terribly interested in overclocking, and the fact that you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone who believes that there is a future with single-core chips, the X2 series really is a good and reliable suggestion.

Intel is right out, unless you want to shell out the clams for some of the Pentium M desktop boards, which are impressive, but to get real performance you'd have to start boning up on overclocking. The Pentium 4s available right now just aren't going to perform like the AMD chip of the same price. Seriously, AMD has a much more robust and mature platform and chipset, and it sells for less. This will not change by March.

Lastly, if you decide to buy from a vendor that isn't www.newegg.com, www.mwave.com, www.chiefvalue.com or www.ewiz.com, let us know and we'll let you know if we trust them. There are quite a few less scrupulous companies out there.
 
ok i didnt read any of the people before me, and im in canada so my doller is worth less then urs but if i were you...

get the dfi lanparty mb. its the overclockers dream. costs $260 cdn thats about $225 usd. its a totally awsome mobo, get it. and its sli rdy so its ezy to upgrade.

and lcds, never a good idea. i guess im pickey but even the ones that gaurentee no blur, have blur, and its annoying as shit when your in pit at long a trying to pick platform.

plus the contrast on every lcd iv seen is terrible.

so dont go with lcs >.<
 
i don't think i will so then i can get a higher inchage like 22-24 hopefully but they seem fairly expensive.

what is SLI i keep forgetting isn't that dual Vid? i'm not positive on that.
 
Scalable link interface (X2 cards)
and yea while it doesnt up by much in 3d mark, it does give you 2x the fps on your current quality. so its a good idea.

and 2gb of ram is a total waste. hell even the wow instance servers dont have that much ram.

people over value ram, and onboard ram. if you buy a 512 7800gtx your wasting money. i have a 6600GT (hence the name mrwizard6600) agp 8X 128mb (on board) with a gig ddr. i have yet to encounter a game where more then 128mb is enough. its your core that is the bottle neck, not the ram, with up and coming games 256mb cards will be needed, but not yet and 512mb is just excessive. by the time your gonna need that much ram your gonna wanna buy a new card anyways.
 
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