my first build/post

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gangster1515

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Ive been reading this forum for about 5 months now and i finally decided to sign up. I have not built a computer before however i have read alot on the subject. ive put together a computer from parts i have read reviews for. From what ive seen you guys are pretty good at this so here it guys. keep in mind that this is my first build and i still might not know what im doing and also that i cant order from newegg since im canadian. Its tigerdirect.ca for me i guess.

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ 2.40GHz / 1MB Cache / 2000MHz FSB / Socket AM2 / Dual-Core (Windsor) / Processor with Fan
326 cdn


MOTHER BOARD: Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition NVIDIA Socket AM2 ATX Motherboard
273 cnd

OCZ GOLD GX XTC 2GB DDR 400 Dual Channel Memory - Retail
260cdn

NZXT Lexa Black/ Silver Computer Case With Side Panel Window - Retail
180cdn

Dvd burner: HP DVD740VI / 16x8x16x DVD+RW / 6x4x16x DVD-RW / 8x DVD+R DL / 40x32x40x CD-RW / DVD±RW Burner with Lightscribe
87.99

BFG GeForce 7900 GTX / 512MB GDDR3 / SLI / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV / Video Card 514cdn

Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM(two in raid)
440cdn

Western Digital Raptor 74GB 3.5" Serial ATA150 Hard Drive(two in raid)
340

Total price 2240 cdn

I am also having a hard time choosing a 19 inch widescreen monitor. i thought about dell but then i heard it had some issues

this upgrade from my previous rig is mainly because i want to play oblivion on max settings at a high framerate. Does anyone know if i will be able to achieve this with this knew computer? Do you guys think i will need to get two 7900 in sli to pull it off?
 
AM2 motherboards must use DDR2 memory (one or two motherboards are the exception but yours isn't).

The X1900XT plays Oblivion better than the 7900GTX does.

Do you plan to overclock?
 
the case comes with a psu

however i also have a problem with my current rig. Every time i burn more then two or three dvds in a row i end up with corropt dvds afterwards. I usually open my case and put a large fan blowing inside my case to dissipate the heat from my burner. However i would like to avoid this with my new rig. Does anyone know of a burner that doesnt have this problem? ive been throught three already and one expensive one. All have the same problem.
 
I realy would suggest since your on the DDR2 bandwaggon that you get the Intel Core 2 Duo chip(E6300 or E6400). It is about the same price and you get much higher performance. trust me, there is no point in buying an AM2 system. But, i would say for the monitor, you get the Dell Ultrasharp 19" Widescreen, they make the best LCD displays, i highly reccomend them, and they are much cheaper than most other brands of the same size.

for the power suppply, a good low cost one is either the OCZ, Enermax, FSP Group, and Seasonic. i have had very good experiencies with all of them in the past. Just try to get a higher end model of either of them around 400Watt-500Watt. If you have the cash, and you realy want a rock solid PSU, go for PC Power & Cooling, but i think the ones i mentioned above will give you a realy good experience.
 
damn, thats right. DDR2. I forgot about that. I plan to try overclocking at least(ive never really done it before)

I dont really want ati as this rig must be as quiet as possible since its in my room and i read and study there while my computer is running. Ive heard zalman makes good cooling devices however i dont really know how much noise they make.

I only need to play oblivion at full settings without going below 30 fps. I can get another 7900 if i have too but i would rather wait for dx10 if i can. can someone who plays oblivion at full settings post their specs, just for comparision.

ill check out the power supplies you guys gave me.
 
Get one of these and you won't have to worry about noise.

http://www.aero-case.com/condor_data.html

A single X1900XT will perform better than 2 7900GTs. If you OC the 7900GTs, you might get higher max FPS, but the X1900XT will still have significantly higher minimum FPS (which is much more important).

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2746&p=4

If you haven't gotten the hint by now, we'll spell it out for you: there is no place, and no need for a RAID-0 array on a desktop computer. The real world performance increases are negligible at best and the reduction in reliability, thanks to a halving of the mean time between failure, makes RAID-0 far from worth it on the desktop.
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http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2101&p=11
 
damn

a 1200 dollor crossfire setup still dips below 30fps? if im not mistaken 30fps is how fast the human eye sees, no? if crossfire cant run oblivion at full settings then do i have to get quad sli?

great input guys, keep it coming!
 
No, we can see faster than 30FPS (at least on a computer display). That number only loosely applies to movie viewing and the like, IIRC.

Just wait for X1950XT if 30FPS+ isn't enough for you (provided by a single X1900XT). Oblivion isn't an FPS so you don't need high FPS for a smooth experience.

Quad SLI is hardly an efficient solution.
 
nono see this article
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2746&p=4

a pair of crossfire 1900s plays oblivion below 50fps at high settings. Their definition of high settings is almost everything at 50 percent and some options like bloom and AA off. The main purpose of this upgrade is that i want to play oblivion at 100 percent. apparantly it cannot be done yet. However i could get a pair of quad sli and that would do the trick no?
has anyone played oblivion at 100 percent and everything on?
 
DO NOT run that rig with a bundled PSU. Buy a good one, you will not regret it.

Things might be fine, but a crappy psu can take out an entire system, so it is definately not a place to skimp. And with a system that serious, you will want a solid PSU.
 
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