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My computer is bottle necking right?

GOD'SlittleSERVANT

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I got a 2400 + but with 512 2100 ram...........if i go to 512 3200 i should see a huge difference right?
 
Originally posted by GOD'SlittleSERVANT
I got a 2400 + but with 512 2100 ram...........if i go to 512 3200 i should see a huge difference right?

2400+ ? Elaborate. Barton? Tbred?

Any improvement over PC2100 will help, but you might not even need PC3200. If you don't plan on upgrading, PC2700 will be good enough.

Also, PC2700 will be good enough if you're not OCing.
 
its a tbred. My buddy was telling me that my CPU isnt gettin its full power cause i have 2100 ram. HE told me its like running at 1ghz instead of 2.0ghz or whatever the stock 2400+ is. Also, do i need a new mobo to see the performace change in my 2100 to 2700 or 3200? I got a MSI KM k7266. thanks
 
You said in your sig your running your 2400+ at 2600+ speeds? What FSB frequency are you using? If it's:

133mhz ---> Then use DDR266 PC2100
166mhz ---> Then use DDR333 PC2700
200mhz ---> Then use DDR400 PC3200
 
First, every computer has a bottleneck somewhere.

Second, and I can't believe this still needs to be said, but memory runs at the settings you specify in your BIOS. So, if you go out and buy PC3200, come home and install them, without making any changes in the BIOS, you will not see any increase.

You don't need a thread created to answer this question...especially since you didn't tell anyone the relevant info. AMD system prefer the memory to run 1:1 with the proc (bus speeds). Look at what FSB your running at, and then get memory that will handle that speed. Problem solved. And also stop listening to your friend...he doesn't understand memory very well.
 
My fsb is 2x 133mhz (266mhz data rate). that means i have 133 or 266? and how do i change my memory settings in my bios? sorry still not quite there yet with comps, but im gettin there :D
 
Originally posted by GOD'SlittleSERVANT
My fsb is 2x 133mhz (266mhz data rate). that means i have 133 or 266? and how do i change my memory settings in my bios? sorry still not quite there yet with comps, but im gettin there :D
That means your FSB is 133mhz, the stock of most Tbreds. Thus, your PC2100 memory is not bottlenecking your system at the moment.

That is not to say however that if you did raise your FSB frequency to 200mhz, which is very do-able, you could put in PC3200 and see pretty significant gains in performance. If you choose to overclock your FSB make sure you have a good CPU cooler, as well as a pretty well ventilated case. A fan for your northbridge wouldn't hurt either if you don't currently have one.
 
wait so i need to over clock my fsb to use the 3200? or will i see a huge difference with the 3200 without oc? My system doesnt run games all that good. I have to run far cry and ut2k4 at 800x600. Is it my mobo that is bottle necking my comp??
 
Your not going to see much of a difference if any by getting PC3200 as long as you will have it running much lower than 400 Mhz. Your processor doesn't need anything close to PC3200. If your motherboard is based on the Via 266A chipset, that is part of the bottleneck. Also, if a game isn't playing very well, it could also be for software reasons, and not just hardware.
 
If you want better performance it might be in your best interest to get a Abit NF7 motherboard, and some PC3200 ram, as well as a good cpu cooler (such as the zalman CNPS7000 copper or aluminum). After that, overclock your CPU to something with 200mhz FSB, you should be able to get around 1800mhz-2000mhz pretty easily. That should give your system a good boost, and your games should run better after that upgrade. It probably wouldn't cost you much more than $200 USD. Or less even depending on the quality and quantity of ram you buy.
 
they come in bother mobile barton and tbreds

the barton is the lowest one available, and the tbred is the highest. same fsb, but the barton OC's like mad... im at 2.4ghz (12x200@1.825 and mobo is off -.04 so its really 1.785) right now. maybe more if i feel the need
 
Originally posted by Mojo
If you want better performance it might be in your best interest to get a Abit NF7 motherboard, and some PC3200 ram, as well as a good cpu cooler (such as the zalman CNPS7000 copper or aluminum). After that, overclock your CPU to something with 200mhz FSB, you should be able to get around 1800mhz-2000mhz pretty easily. That should give your system a good boost, and your games should run better after that upgrade. It probably wouldn't cost you much more than $200 USD. Or less even depending on the quality and quantity of ram you buy.

this the mobo?
ABIT nFORCE 2 IGP Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU, Model "NF7-M"
and this the CPu cooler?
ZALMAN CNPS7000A-AlCu Aluminum + Copper CPU Cooler for AMD XP Socket 462/ 754 and Intel Socket 478
thanks man for the info
 
Originally posted by jpmkm
2400+ barton. Damn newegg is slow tonight. Slower than hardforums.
is there a non mobile 2400+ barton?

133mhz ---> Then use DDR266 PC2100
166mhz ---> Then use DDR333 PC2700
200mhz ---> Then use DDR400 PC3200
how do you know what fsb a computer is running at?... i mean, i know how to find out but only approximately... i have an overclocked computers and i overclock it by changing the fsb... how do i say what fsb my computer is running at?
 
Originally posted by wayne
how do you know what fsb a computer is running at?... i mean, i know how to find out but only approximately... i have an overclocked computers and i overclock it by changing the fsb... how do i say what fsb my computer is running at?
You can manually look at it in the BIOS, or run CPUz and that will tell you. Numerous other programs too.
 
Originally posted by Mojo
You can manually look at it in the BIOS, or run CPUz and that will tell you. Numerous other programs too.
well, i know how to do that...

but lets say i set my speed to 152Mhz on the FSB... then people are asking me to see if my processors 133Mhz or 166Mhz, is it correct to say 152Mhz?

also, when you change the fsb, you change the cpu speed AND the ram speed right?
 
depends on your motherboard, some can lock the PCI, AGP and memory buses to a fix speed, so you're left with an' OC'ed north bridge and CPU.

And yes it is correct to say that the FSB is 152, but I think there asking what it should be.
 
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