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My build is complete!

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Scholarly

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http://imgur.com/4x9HW

This is my computer I am building that I am making to play some games at a decent fps.

Tell me what you guys think. This is my first build and I am almost ready to start ordering parts. Is there anything else I am going to need? Extra cables? Wireless network reciever? keyboard & mouser obviously.

should I have to worry Is everything here compatible with each other?

I am open to suggestions on swapping items for different ones if you guys think it would be a good idea.

Kevin
 
Nice PC man.

I know you are probably working with a tight budget but that monitor is really small. If I were you, I would consider bumping the processor down a level and buying a 128GB SSD and a 24" (1920x1200) monitor. That way you may actually use some of the horsepower of that nice system.

Just a suggestion. There are people here far more knowledgeable than I am. I am sure they will chime in. Good luck.
 
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I disagree; the 3570k is really the "entry level" for performance and I think you'd have to drop down to an i3 to have enough savings to afford an SSD.

21.5" is very small though and I highly recommend getting at least a 23".

The only thing I'd change is the memory. Get DDR3 1600 at most. Intel chips don't benefit from faster memory. Save yourself $10-$15.
Stay away from the Ripjaws, the heatsinks can interfere with some heatsinks.

Get an aftermarket HSF to overclock that cpu!
 
a good 600w would still be enough for crossfire 7850s.

I've yet to ever upgrade to dual video cards, even letting myself have the option with beefy psus.
You either do it from the beginning or don't, in my opinion.

New generation cards come out and the new higher end card gives the performance as if you crossfired two mid-range cards. So sell the old card and get a newer higher end card.
 
J Macker said:
I disagree; the 3570k is really the "entry level" for performance and I think you'd have to drop down to an i3 to have enough savings to afford an SSD.

21.5" is very small though and I highly recommend getting at least a 23".

The only thing I'd change is the memory. Get DDR3 1600 at most. Intel chips don't benefit from faster memory. Save yourself $10-$15.
Stay away from the Ripjaws, the heatsinks can interfere with some heatsinks.

Get an aftermarket HSF to overclock that cpu!
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So in your opinion, would it be worth it for him to drop down to a Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz to get an SSD?

I guess I am thinking in terms of my old i7 920 which is still going strong with current games. I do have it OC'd though.
 
skittzle said:
Nice PC man.

I know you are probably working with a tight budget but that monitor is really small. If I were you, I would consider bumping the processor down a level and buying a 128GB SSD and a 24" (1920x1200) monitor. That way you may actually use some of the horsepower of that nice system.

Just a suggestion. There are people here far more knowledgeable than I am. I am sure they will chime in. Good luck.
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Hey man, I was thinking I could consider spending maybe 100$ more on a monitor. What do you guys suggest?

I did not add a SSD Because I was not sure of the size. What sort of stuff would I load on this SSD? My OS of course but what else would you recommend putting on an SSD?
 
dremic said:
why only 600w? pay an extra 30$ and make sure you dont need to upgrade your PSU in case you SLI or Xfire

ssd is totally worthhhh it just saying.


http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&sku=320-2807

ultra sharp is always worth the purchase too
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Does anyone have any experience with this monitor? I am reading this has a slow response time of 8ms. I heard i should get between 4-6
Being able to plug my xbox into this monitor will be a big thing for me. Will i need to get a monitor with built in speakers so I can use the xbox HDMI or can i use external speakers somehow?

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950MN8933&vpn=VS248H-P&manufacture=OTHERS
what do you guys think about this monitor?


Can you guys suggest a better ram stick to get and PSU?
 
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I bought 3x 25" hanspree monitors at microcenter around 2 years ago for 200 bucks each. They've been great budget monitors
 
Scholarly said:
Hey man, I was thinking I could consider spending maybe 100$ more on a monitor. What do you guys suggest?

I did not add a SSD Because I was not sure of the size. What sort of stuff would I load on this SSD? My OS of course but what else would you recommend putting on an SSD?
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I'd get a 120gb ss and put your current favorite 1-2 games. Right now I keep Tribes ascend and guild wars 2 on my SSD and everythign else stays on my regular hard drive. When borderlands 2 comes out I will move tribes ascend off and put borderlands 2 on there instead. I'd also head over to ncix .com and ask for advice. Thats where I buy all my parts in canada, and they price match to other canadian websites, they have a forum where you can ask for advice as well if your concerned. As for monitors I dont have a specific recommendation, I love my benq monitors, and the samsung monitors Ive purcahsed for my dad and vrother both seem very nice. I also hear good things about some of the dell monitors.

As for psu recommendations I've been using the same 520w corsair psu for 4 years now and love it. I dont see the point in sli/xfire with the amount of issues games have with them, just spend the cash on 1 good gpu, upgrade that with another good gpu every 2 years or so (unless you need your games to be maxed out allt he time) and your 600w will be fine.

Like I mentioned though buy from ncix and order all your parts from there. Just price match all the stores your looking at and save yourself some serious shipping costs (im assuming by the fact your links in your first post come from places like tigerdriect and directcanada that your planning on ordering from multiple sites)
 
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Scholarly said:
Hey man, I was thinking I could consider spending maybe 100$ more on a monitor. What do you guys suggest?

I did not add a SSD Because I was not sure of the size. What sort of stuff would I load on this SSD? My OS of course but what else would you recommend putting on an SSD?
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Install games to the SSD. The best deals on SSDs recently is a 240GB Sandisk Extreme for $130 shipped. The drive has been on sale about every 2-3 weeks. The cheapest the Samsung 830 has been is $180. Crucial M4 256 cheapest was $160, iirc. Other than that, the 128GB drives are typically on sale for $80-$90.

Is it worth dropping down to an i3 to buy an SSD? That's a very tough question and it really depends on what you're going to be doing with your computer. If you're going to be doing much video transcoding/compression, then no, I'd say get the i5. otherwise, the ssd will give a very nice boost in responsiveness.

If you're willing to spend an extra $100 on the LCD, then that puts your price around $215. In which case I'd suggest stretching a little bit farther and buying a 27" Shimian (Korean) LCD on ebay for $280. It is the single best upgrade / purchase I've done for my computer for years. It has 2560x1440 resolution and the picture quality is amazing. Go check out a 27" iMac LCD or Apple Cinema Display and that's the same picture quality.

I'm a terrible person to ask though because I tend to spend too much on my computers. I've bought 8 LCDs in 4 years and now I'm finally happy with my 27" Korean LCD. From the SSD upgrade, I went from a 2x1TB Raid 0 samsung spinpoint F3's to a single Sandisk 240GB Extreme and I actually noticed a decent jump in system responsiveness.

if you bought an i3 now, it won't lose much resell value a year later. Who knows, you may want to find a used 3570k in a year and use your i3 in a home theater PC.
 
J Macker said:
I disagree; the 3570k is really the "entry level" for performance and I think you'd have to drop down to an i3 to have enough savings to afford an SSD.

21.5" is very small though and I highly recommend getting at least a 23".

The only thing I'd change is the memory. Get DDR3 1600 at most. Intel chips don't benefit from faster memory. Save yourself $10-$15.
Stay away from the Ripjaws, the heatsinks can interfere with some heatsinks.

Get an aftermarket HSF to overclock that cpu!
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yeah 23 inches is the smallest I would go with for a monitor.

and Ivy Bridge does like faster memory much more than Sandy Bridge so I am not sure why you think it wont benefit. plus the 1866 memory he selected is the low profile Ares series.

We must admit that gaming applications differ somewhat in this respect. Memory subsystem performance has a larger effect on them. By preferring high-bandwidth DDR3 SDRAM for your Ivy Bridge platform, you can get an additional 5-10% in terms of frame rate. You don’t always achieve this even by installing a faster CPU!


http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/ivy-bridge-ddr3_7.html#sect0
 
SSD is a must (check out the [H] Deals thread for a few deals right now)

If you're going to buy a new mechanical keyboard, make sure to get one from a store with a decent exchange policy (they all feel different).
 
cannondale06 said:
We must admit that gaming applications differ somewhat in this respect. Memory subsystem performance has a larger effect on them. By preferring high-bandwidth DDR3 SDRAM for your Ivy Bridge platform, you can get an additional 5-10% in terms of frame rate. You don’t always achieve this even by installing a faster CPU!


http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/ivy-bridge-ddr3_7.html#sect0
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They tested 2 crappy games at 1600x900. I wouldn't draw any conclusions from that review except that they didn't test properly.
When the gpu is the bottleneck at higher resolutions, I'm sure the differences would be negligible. Of course it's only a $10 difference, so not much expense to get the faster stuff to be certain.
 
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6229/midrange-system-buyers-guide/2

Worst case depending on your budget buy a SB class Celeron like the G530, buy a better GPU and SSD, and update the CPU later to an i3 2100 or better. Depending on the GPU you can get away with 400-450 PSU and still have headroom; likewise, stick with DDR3-1333, don't spend more on 1600 or higher because you're not really going to see any real world benefit. AMD is an OK choice in a pinch but at this point I'd spend slightly more on an 1155 Intel build because it's going to last and in most cases even the older boards will support IB with a BIOS update. I would ignore the H and P series boards because they're just too outdated and you couldn't ever OC on the H series anyway; get a good Z or B series board and you'll be all set.

IMHO - spend the most on: motherboard, GPU....somewhat also PSU and SSD. Pay more for quality there for sure because those parts are going to end up being more useful in the long run. If you get a good board with enough bells and whistles you can go through several CPU upgrades on the same board. Same with the PSU....if it's good, it'll last a long time and power almost anything now and down the road (more than likely, since most GPU revisions end up using less and less power, whereas what most of us have now was required months [if not years] ago). I bought my HX850 to run GTX 260 216 SLi which (at load) probably put the PSU at around 70-80% capacity, and now that I'm just running a 6950 it's probably no higher than 50-60%.

The best upgrades you're going to have are GPU and SSD. At a point the GPU will get bottlenecked by the CPU but that depends on the games and your res. I would definitely say though get a 23-24".
 
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