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My Boss's DVR w/TouchScreen

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Adam

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Our company does a lot of video surveillance/home automation/access control/computer networking... you name it we do it.

So my boss built this nice show house and we wanted to go nuts with the DVR. This is a 32 channel DVR system (for his house yes, its a showcase house though to demonstrate what we do).

Anyway, we used every available spot on the back possible. It has a digital temp guage in the front, multiple video outputs (2 RCA outputs for camera only feeds, 1 video output to a monitor for pc control, a touch screen lcd for pc control in the case itself, and then s-video to more monitors for video/pc control. it also has 16 audio ports on it (couldnt fit the card for the other 16 but we were not concerned with that).

Its got an 80gb hd on board with room for more, but theres a 4U rack mountable eSata Raid cabinet that will get mounted also, with room for 12 SATA hard drives. Heres some pictures of us working on it tonight:

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Yes theres a network card, my boss forgot to flip up the flap on the back, fixed that now.
 
very nice set up, i have a few questions for you what type of video capture cards do you use ? how reliable is this software/hardware ? Can you point me in the right direction with hardware/anything useful so i could build my very own, we happened to use a computer as a DVR service and using Q-See capture cards(off course with Q-See recommended specs hardware) so far been running for about 2 years with no problems the only down side to that is that the software/hardware only supports 16 coaxial cameras.
 
Im curious where you work. I have been offered a position on a startup company that does something very similiar to what you appear to do. PM me a link?
 
tell him to call me when he wants to do one with style ;) I freaking love this tho!!!!!! Just want to make it look pimping even more
 
Adam said:
Our company does a lot of video surveillance/home automation/access control/computer networking... you name it we do it.

So my boss built this nice show house and we wanted to go nuts with the DVR. This is a 32 channel DVR system (for his house yes, its a showcase house though to demonstrate what we do).

Anyway, we used every available spot on the back possible. It has a digital temp guage in the front, multiple video outputs (2 RCA outputs for camera only feeds, 1 video output to a monitor for pc control, a touch screen lcd for pc control in the case itself, and then s-video to more monitors for video/pc control. it also has 16 audio ports on it (couldnt fit the card for the other 16 but we were not concerned with that).

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Hmmm, I don't see how you're going to get 16 channels of audio. SPDIF on almost every motherboard I've ever seen is TOS [optical] or Coxail, not both at the same time.
Also, the surround outputs at most you'll get would be 5.1 or 7.1 as the center channel and subwoofer channel are dithered down to 1 channel each. (your motherboard shows a mic input, so that can't be counted as an output)

So 8 channels, plus 2 from SPDIF = 10. I don't see where the other 8 channels are coming from. Maybe if the optical puts out 7.1 (8 channels) you'd have 16 output channels, but I highly doubt you'd be able to access both the optical and analog portions of an onboard montherboard sound.

Also, I don't see where you're getting 16 channels of INPUT audio into the system. (USB/Firewire??)

I also don't see where the VIDEO input is coming into the system. I don't see 8 DB Sub and 1 DVI OUTPUTS. If every S-Video / Component jack was an input, you'd have 4 total video inputs, again not 32.

I don't doubt your company does video surveillance, but this not a good example of such. Can you update us with more pictures?
 
djgizmo said:
Hmmm, I don't see how you're going to get 16 channels of audio. SPDIF on almost every motherboard I've ever seen is TOS [optical] or Coxail, not both at the same time.
Also, the surround outputs at most you'll get would be 5.1 or 7.1 as the center channel and subwoofer channel are dithered down to 1 channel each. (your motherboard shows a mic input, so that can't be counted as an output)

So 8 channels, plus 2 from SPDIF = 10. I don't see where the other 8 channels are coming from. Maybe if the optical puts out 7.1 (8 channels) you'd have 16 output channels, but I highly doubt you'd be able to access both the optical and analog portions of an onboard montherboard sound.

Also, I don't see where you're getting 16 channels of INPUT audio into the system. (USB/Firewire??)

I also don't see where the VIDEO input is coming into the system. I don't see 8 DB Sub and 1 DVI OUTPUTS. If every S-Video / Component jack was an input, you'd have 4 total video inputs, again not 32.

I don't doubt your company does video surveillance, but this not a good example of such. Can you update us with more pictures?
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You're just not well versed on surveillance video capture cards. Each of those d-sub 15 ports is good for 8 cameras. Two per card and two cards total means 32 cameras (the capture cards are in slots 5 and 7). The card in slot 2 is presumably for audio and the one in slot 1 for sensors (door/window). None of the ports on the motherboard are being used with maybe the exception of PS/2 or USB (for a mouse/keyboard). I could be slightly off, but overall, I think I'm pretty close.
 
Interesting. Kinda surprised you are not using internal storage for video.
 
Blue Fox said:
You're just not well versed on surveillance video capture cards. Each of those d-sub 15 ports is good for 8 cameras. Two per card and two cards total means 32 cameras (the capture cards are in slots 5 and 7). The card in slot 2 is presumably for audio and the one in slot 1 for sensors (door/window). None of the ports on the motherboard are being used with maybe the exception of PS/2 or USB (for a mouse/keyboard). I could be slightly off, but overall, I think I'm pretty close.
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Ahh, thanks for info.

If you don't mind me asking what video / audio cards are you using?
 
Yeah i didn't write a whole lot sorry bout that.

I work for a company here on Long Island, IntraLogic Solutions. We're big with school systems and were big with point of sale systems. We've always done video surveillance and it keeps us very busy. My boss finally built his house and we are going nuts there with every toy possible. Right now hes got touch screens and wireless tablets throughout that control everything from the pools temperature to the shades to what channel is playing on each tv.

Anyway we specialize in GeoVision DVR cards. The cards shown above are their 1480-16 series, which gives us 1480 FPS x 16 cameras. We're running two cards in the system with their new software which allows us 32 channels for the surveillance. Each of those cards can also support 16 audio channels. Since we have 2 cards, we could do 32 audio channels but... as you can see, ran outta room. Heres the order from left -> right of the cards shown below:

Front monitor SVGA input
Audio channels 1-8 (top) / Audio channels 9-16 (bottom)
Video Card: SVGA (top), S-Video (middle), DVI (bottom)
LED control for HD array (connects to the eSata card which outputs to an LED on the 4U HD array)
DVR Card: DVR Video Out (top: outputs only camera video to a source) / (Channels 1-8 in black, channels 9-16 in blue)
eSata card (supports the 12 HD array)
DVR Card: DVR Video Out (top: outputs only camera video to a source) / (Channels 17-24 in black, channels 25-32 in blue)

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BTW internal storage for HD, we've done it before, and for 90% of our clients that works. But we have a lot of clients (police stations, roller skating rinks) who need to store a LOT of storage, and they go with external arrays. Same here, we're starting with 1 1.5TB HD in his array, with room for 11 more HD's. We decided on 1.5TB because the pricing is just right.

As for the audio card, we're using onboard audio via the Gigabyte motherboard. We don't actually need the audio since its a DVR, not a multimedia system. As for the video card, a standard Radeon HD 3450 256MB board.

The systems running GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R with an Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 processor. We went with 8GB of ram, but as we learned after installing Windows XP x64, the DVR cards did not support it, so we had to go with the 32bit OS, which means we spent $49.99 extra on memory we can't really utilize.

As for the case, its a Norco case, not sold on NewEgg but its on their website somewhere. Touchscreen is built into the case. Whats odd is the case does not have any front USB ports, not that we need them.

The touchscreen is USB and the connections internall onto the motherboard (we took apart a USB backplane to keep the connection inside the case)

Its running an Antec 500W power supply, which is overkill since the HD's are not internal, but cant hurt to have plenty of power.

The blue device in the bay is a NZXT SENTRY 1 Fan Controller. My boss just wanted to see the temps and for $19.99 it worked fine. He realizes he cant see it when the fronts closed but its okay, it was $20.

BTW, for those curious, heres the video cable, it has 8 BNC connectors for cameras. So as mentioned above, i have 4 slots x 8 BNCs = 32 cameras

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Heres another kind, used for the audio card (which isnt installed in here, but we sell a 16 channel audio only card for camera systems as an add-on)

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Blue Fox said:
You're just not well versed on surveillance video capture cards. Each of those d-sub 15 ports is good for 8 cameras. Two per card and two cards total means 32 cameras (the capture cards are in slots 5 and 7). The card in slot 2 is presumably for audio and the one in slot 1 for sensors (door/window). None of the ports on the motherboard are being used with maybe the exception of PS/2 or USB (for a mouse/keyboard). I could be slightly off, but overall, I think I'm pretty close.
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Your pretty much on the money except for the sensors (door/window), the first slot is, like i said above, for the front touch screen monitor. It just connects right back into the DVI slot
 
Very interesting. If you don't mind me asking, whats the damage on one of those surveillance cards?
 
Adam
Which Geovision card do you recommend for a home 8 camera system? Also could you recommend a color outdoor IR camera please?
 
I emailed you via PM, but a GV-600-8 is good for an 8 channel system, especially at home. We use them all day at clients for 8 channel systems as well.

Nuvico makes a nice bullet camera thats designed to be used outdoors. It has built in IR led's that come on at night. I have 3 of them on my house, so far about 1 1/2 years now not a single problem with them.

Cameras arnt that much I believe it was maybe $100 or less per camera, somewhere around that range.

That card sells for $564 though. But you can find them online from about $275 - $350

IR Day/Night weatherproof IR bullet cameras range from $100 - $200 per camera, depending on the resolution/IR strength. I have 1 standard and 2 high-power IR's on my house.
 
What video card are you using? If you buy a video card with the ribbon VGA based port, remove the ribbon and the port... move the cases lcd ribbon and port into the video cards slot bracket... then you have successfully free'ed up one slot.
 
here at work we used Q-see 16 channel capture cards, so far they run pretty good with off course some software glitches, like for instance sometimes or usually all the time it doesn't auto recycle the hard drives and it drives me bonkers, I've re-installed the software over and over again and it doesn't seem to work.. I call tech supports and all they say is to reinstall the software and it should be fixed. Can you recommend a 16-32 capture card..
 
Not a bad idea the ribbon part... i believe it MIGHT have a ribbon, but either way... we're using both video outs, we're actually using the s-video as well for a 3rd display
 
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