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MX500 vs the MX700

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USMC2Hard4U

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well I never used a cordless mouse before.... how do they compare to corded mice?

I do everything, include game...

what would you recommend... my Intellimouse is just about dead....again (#4)
 
the cordless version is heavier because of the batteries. not too heavy though. depends on the 'feel' you like in a mouse. i own the wireless and love it. i like the solid feel of it.
 
the mx700 weighs a bit more than the mx500, the performance and speed is the same, and then theres the cord vs no cord.
 
I have the MX500 and tried out the MX700 at a friend's house.

Both are great mices. The MX700 is heavier mentioned by jwill, but not by much. Performance between the two are extremely good.

If you have the extra money, go for the MX700. It also comes with a rechargable base to charge your batteries when they are low. So you don't need to worry about purchasing new ones.
 
They are both great mice - I agree, if you have the money you may as well try out the mx700. . . worst case, you return it and get some cash back and a second great mouse that you'll prefer (the 500). I love my mx700, even though I was used to my intellimouse also (#3).

As for performance/gaming/compatibility/whatever -- they're the same -- you'll only find wireless vs. corded fanboys who say otherwise. :D
 
Originally posted by JRW160
MX900 > MX700 > MX500
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Unless you have other Bluetooth devices then there is not much point in spending the extra money on the MX900. And even though the MX700 is VERY responsive and you'll probably never notice it in reality, its not as precise as the MX500. So the corded MX500 is the "best" mouse. MX900 and MX700 you have to worry about keeping recharged and changing batters every few months sometimes. Haveing a wireless mouse is pretty useless usually unless your really annoyed by the cord and i use the wireless MX Duo.
 
Both are basically identical except for the little weight difference and the corded/cordless thing...

All I say is get what ever serves your needs...If wireless isn't needed, just get the MX500...
 
ok im gonna get the MX500, cuz i dont mind the cord and I want the best... i felt them and i dont like the weight of the wireles, although its not that much... but

when i get it, should I use the default windows optical drivers like I do the intellimouse? or should I use the drivers that came with the MX500?

THanks
 
Download the newest version of mouseware from Logitechs website and install it. Try it out and if you have any problems THEN uninstall it and use the default windows drivers. Some people hate to use Logitechs drivers and others dont.
 
I have the mx500 and think its great cuz I thought I'd never care about the cord.

Well now that I am seeing mx700s for $50.00 I wish I would have gotten the mx700.
 
Originally posted by JRW160
MX900 > MX700 > MX500
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MX700>MX900>MX510>MX500

The MX900 has been known to have more problems than the MX700 with regards to synching times, etc. The MX510 has the highest resolution sensor of the 4 and it also has the coolest shell. I love my MX700 and will not part with it until something magical comes out.
 
MX700 is the only way to go, there is no lag, I play FPS games all day long, and wouldn't have a Mouse that couldn't hold up, and it's just wonderful.

MX700 > MX510 > MX500 > MX900.

/IoWnZa
 
Heres some information on why the MX500 is better then the MX700:

http://www.ownt.com/hardware/reviews/2003/mxvsmx/mxvsmx.shtm

The MX 700 has the wireless feature, but if you aren't computing or gaming away from your desk and you don't have your system setup with your TV, where you are sitting on the couch, then I highly recommend the MX 500 with a PS2 adapter so that you are running at 195 hz. The MX 500 has the sleek feel and comes in at a cheaper price. Overall, you can't go wrong with MX 500. It has all the features the MX 700 has except being wireless. Both mice button layouts are exactly the same, but due to the fine tuned feel of the MX 500, some of the buttons seem to be easier to click.

Some pains about the MX 700 are the constant recharging. The charging lasts an estimated seven to eight hours, but when you are working on a computer most of the day and into the night like many hardcore computer users are, charging your mouse gets to be a pain. Even though the charger works pretty fast in recharging the MX 700 mouse, to be interupted and stop what you are doing whether it's work or a game, it's annoying. Not to mention that while it's recharging you either have to stop or you need a secondary mouse. Then you have two mice that you are trying to get used to the feel, which can be hard, due to the MX 700s bulky size. The MX 700 has a recharging light that blinks green when it's charging and changes to a solid green once fully charged. The light changes to red when it needs to be charged, along with a message on screen that the mouse batteries are low. The one problem I noticed with the light is that it's placed center on top of the mouse and when you are using it, you will not see the red light. So if you opted to not install Logitech's MouseWare utility then you won't even know that your mouse is about to die until it does. Of course, some people lift their hands up once in a while, but there are the hardcore who will finish eight and ten hour games in a single sitting. The MX 700 will need recharging before you get finish those games. While the MX700 is a decent adversary, it's no match for the MX500. The MX500 has all strengths of the MX700 and none of its weaknesses.
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It also describes in detail how to speed up your MX500 to 195 hz.

And what exactly is a MX510? I dont even see them on Logitech's site. There is the MX310 but i've never heard of the MX510.
 
Originally posted by burningrave101
Heres some information on why the MX500 is better then the MX700:

http://www.ownt.com/hardware/reviews/2003/mxvsmx/mxvsmx.shtm



It also describes in detail how to speed up your MX500 to 195 hz.

And what exactly is a MX510? I dont even see them on Logitech's site. There is the MX310 but i've never heard of the MX510.
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that review is inaccurate with the charging times. only takes 4 hours to fully charge and days before needing recharging.
 
Originally posted by IoWnZa
The 510 is the new 500.

/IoWnZa
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Hmmm interesting. I'll have to check into it. Since its better then the MX500 i may pick one up to use with my MX700 so i have one with the best refresh time as my main mouse at the desk and still a wireless version to move over to my bed to use. That way the majority of the time i can leave the MX700 on its recharge base.

that review is inaccurate with the charging times. only takes 4 hours to fully charge and days before needing recharging.
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I know some people say that but all the reviews i've seen and my own MX700 leads me to believe they dont all work that well. Especially if you work the thing 10 or more hours at a time every day for a while. Maybe if you replace the batteries with more expensive ones it does. I know quite a few people have had problems just keeping it working 7-8 hours with the stock batteries and others dont.
 
The MX700 is only as accurate as the MX500 up to 6 feet away from the Base, so unless your bed is right there, I am not sure how well it will work.

As for the 510, it's like 5.4gb/sec where the 500 was 4.7, I dunno, I saw it at BB but didn't pay much attention, and I can't believe that it's not on Logitech's Website, that is wonderful....

/IoWnZa
 
Originally posted by kronchev
Get the MX900. Lovely bluetooth goodness :D
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Unless you need to fllush your toilet from your Mouse there is no pt really, not in this day and age yet, bluetooh hasn't fully come into affect, once it does I am sure that the MX900 will be a better choice.

/IoWnZa
 
Yea i know the MX700 starts loosing accuracy past 6ft. away but it still works like at the other end of the house for me and all i do on the bed is switch movies or music, chat, browse the net and so forth on my TV. I dont bother gaming or anything extensive where precision accuracy would matter.
 
Originally posted by burningrave101
Yea i know the MX700 starts loosing accuracy past 6ft. away but it still works like at the other end of the house for me and all i do on the bed is switch movies or music, chat, browse the net and so forth on my TV. I dont bother gaming or anything extensive where precision accuracy would matter.
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You'll be fine then :)

/IoWnZa
 
I am gonna go with the MX510 when It is avaible at newegg. It looks like a great mouse... How does it feel...? it looks weird compared to microsoft mice :D
 
Originally posted by USMC2Hard4U
I am gonna go with the MX510 when It is avaible at newegg. It looks like a great mouse... How does it feel...? it looks weird compared to microsoft mice :D
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The 510 look's and feel's just like the 500, but all marble red swirl covered case on it.

Buy it at Best Buy and pay $8 for the 2 Year Service Plan, once the Mouse Feet wear down, take it back for another. That is what I do with my MX700.

/IoWnZa
 
I have the MX700 and it's awesome. Best looking mouse ever. And I have it setup on my living room for watching internet streams on the tv. And from 10 feet away I could still get great response from the mouse. And the keyboard that came with it is awesome if you're playing something like Lord of the rings: The Return of the King. And if you're having problem with the battery then change it to a higher Ni Mh battery it'll have better distance and it last longer. I still didn't have problems using the batteries that the mx700 came with. I left it for 3days and it still worked fine if you aren't playing games 24 7.
 
burningrave -- I don't get that review you posted. I can leave mine uncharged for days. . .or use it for the duration of a few days straight and I don't need to charge. You don't need a second mouse to use while it's charging either - the batteries are standard rechargables. They come in a pack of four. IF/When you let the 2 in the mouse go dead, put the good ones in it and charge the old ones to be the next backups. IF you let it go dead, that takes around 10 seconds to rememdy. Otherwise, while you're sleeping put the mouse on the charger and you never even think about it. My batts have stayed good for months, the mouse has never run out of juice on me, and I put it on the charger only at night.

You also said that the mx500 is more accurate in your first post comments, but that review says that they're the exact same (nevermind the 6 foot issue). . . but that the 500's buttons "feel more solid".

Oh well, I don't care either way because I know that the wireless/wired is personal preference and ONLY personal preference, I just don't understand some of the points that were made - I have used both mice and think the 700 was misrepresented in that snip.
 
Originally posted by AR
burningrave -- I don't get that review you posted. I can leave mine uncharged for days. . .or use it for the duration of a few days straight and I don't need to charge. You don't need a second mouse to use while it's charging either - the batteries are standard rechargables. They come in a pack of four. IF/When you let the 2 in the mouse go dead, put the good ones in it and charge the old ones to be the next backups. IF you let it go dead, that takes around 10 seconds to rememdy. Otherwise, while you're sleeping put the mouse on the charger and you never even think about it. My batts have stayed good for months, the mouse has never run out of juice on me, and I put it on the charger only at night.

You also said that the mx500 is more accurate in your first post comments, but that review says that they're the exact same (nevermind the 6 foot issue). . . but that the 500's buttons "feel more solid".

Oh well, I don't care either way because I know that the wireless/wired is personal preference and ONLY personal preference, I just don't understand some of the points that were made - I have used both mice and think the 700 was misrepresented in that snip.
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I concur. My mouse lasts 6 days of hard use (Energizer 2100mAh) but with the stock Batteries (1800mAh) in my case, they lasted 4 days with no problem's. As for it charging, it takes about 4 hours and mine always is ready to die at night when I am going to bed, so that is no issue. The MX700 is hounded on in that Review for no reason. I don't understand how the MX500's button's can feel more Solid, they are the same thing except one doesn't have a Teather.

/IoWnZa
 
510 looks pretty cool, but i'd still take the 700 any day. i would trade my 700 for anything. i can say with confidence that so far it is my best purchase yet when it comes to computer parts. that is of course until i do my upgrade this month!:D ;)
 
somewhat off the subject but does anyone know if there are lighter in weight, nickel metal hydride batteries that i could replace the stock mx700 batteries with?

ive noticed i have better accuracy in games with a lighter mouse.
 
Originally posted by jwill
somewhat off the subject but does anyone know if there are lighter in weight, nickel metal hydride batteries that i could replace the stock mx700 batteries with?

ive noticed i have better accuracy in games with a lighter mouse.
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Not really lighter in weight, but you could just open up the mouse and take the metal weight out. (Note: I have heard about this weight, but not actually taken mine apart to see it - it doesn't bother me).

Hopefully that theory is true, so you can have an easy fix :D
 
Originally posted by AR
Not really lighter in weight, but you could just open up the mouse and take the metal weight out. (Note: I have heard about this weight, but not actually taken mine apart to see it - it doesn't bother me).

Hopefully that theory is true, so you can have an easy fix :D
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i have heard of this but only in the mx500's. anyone else know anything about this 'weight'?
 
The MX700 and I did not notice too much of a difference between its "feel" and the Boomslang it replaced. It will take a serious improvement for me to use another mouse.

If you want more "feel", you can set the priority of the mouse driver to high or highest in the task manager. This seemed to work for me on my 1Ghz P3. Maybe higher end systems won't need to, but you can try.

I have used my mouse for a whole day playing RPGs and played CS later that night and never had a battery issue. If I were to, I would grab 2 AA batteries as a temp until my others were charged. You can use this.

What I dislike are the mouse feet (which Iownza's cure is my next one, great idea bro), they wear down quicker than I thought. I hate dealing teflon tape.

Only other dislike, which has been remedied (goes with all Opticals I am sure), is that the mousepad made a huge difference in "feel". Started with black Icemat (which I loved with the Boomslang), but despite what Icemat claims, it did not feel precise for FPS gaming. Then the RatzPad GS, seemed to track well, but too slick for me. The Func worked okay (both sides) but did not track as well as the Ratzpad IMO. Then I gave the Xtrac Pro HS a shot. This one hit home with me.

Sorry for the ranting, but this could be useful for you in the end.
 
Originally posted by E-virus
The MX700 and I did not notice too much of a difference between its "feel" and the Boomslang it replaced. It will take a serious improvement for me to use another mouse.

If you want more "feel", you can set the priority of the mouse driver to high or highest in the task manager. This seemed to work for me on my 1Ghz P3. Maybe higher end systems won't need to, but you can try.

I have used my mouse for a whole day playing RPGs and played CS later that night and never had a battery issue. If I were to, I would grab 2 AA batteries as a temp until my others were charged. You can use this.

What I dislike are the mouse feet (which Iownza's cure is my next one, great idea bro), they wear down quicker than I thought. I hate dealing teflon tape.

Only other dislike, which has been remedied (goes with all Opticals I am sure), is that the mousepad made a huge difference in "feel". Started with black Icemat (which I loved with the Boomslang), but despite what Icemat claims, it did not feel precise for FPS gaming. Then the RatzPad GS, seemed to track well, but too slick for me. The Func worked okay (both sides) but did not track as well as the Ratzpad IMO. Then I gave the Xtrac Pro HS a shot. This one hit home with me.

Sorry for the ranting, but this could be useful for you in the end.
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I just went from my RatPadz GS to a fUnc 1030, and I was amazed at how it improved my Sniping shot's, as well as normal Melee Firing. I was getting more HS's and doing better then I did with the RatPadz GS.

/IoWnZa
 
I actually did not make it clear regarding the mousepads. When I first got the MX700, after toying with the Icemat, Ratzpad and Func, I used the func smooth side. The Ratzpad seemed smoother and quicker. But, I preferred the Func because it had a little friction and I would not overshoot as much (stop on a dime better). Therefore, I would not disagree with you, since the Func felt more "precise" to me. So the "tracking" that I mentioned before may be a little misleading, maybe it was more of the material itself between the Ratz and Func. However, I will say that the Icemat seemed to skip during CS, but would be fine for normal use. However, I would recommend you try an Xtrac Pro HS if you have not. I am very impressed with this pad. It has a good mix of smoothness and friction and seems to really be precise.
 
All i'm saying is that with at least the stock batteries the MX700 normally does not last more then 24 hours tops if its actually being used. The fact it can lay on the desk for 3 days and still work means nothing because every time the mouse stops moving the only thing really drawing power is a little red LED. Conclusively from reviews on average the stock batteries last around 12 hours or a little more under heavy operation. Its nothing strange for me to game 7-8 hours straight (gaming draws more juice) and then use the mouse another 6-7 hours after that to browse the net in certain instances. And i hate not having a backup mouse to use because taking 1-2 hours to recharge definately isn't something i like to facter into what im doing. The MX700 is a great mouse and probably the best wireless mouse out there but the MX500 is better in pretty much every way because of greater precision (if you switch to PS2 and use the mouseware drivers to increase the refresh speed) and the fact it never has to be recharged. The only time i would recommend the MX700 or MX Duo is when the person says they want to compute away from their desk. If a couple cords really get in the way that much i'd recommend thinking about a new desk instead of wireless keyboards and mice cause i've yet to have a problem with cords while sitting at a desk.

http://www.modsynergy.com/Review 61.htm

Charging is quick and easy. A full charge will take me at least an hour or so the recharge the batteries and that’s quick. Depending on how long you use the mouse it should last about a days work of regular use. If you game then expect it to be drained quicker than usual.
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http://www.fragtopia.com/reviews/mx700/mx700-1.htm

Rechargeable batteries just don't last as long as conventionals. It sucks but thems the breaks. The OW used to have to have a battery change every three weeks to a month. They also used to go dead without any warning. I always used to carry around a spare pair of batteries in my computer case for such an emergency. No such worries with the MX700, it's rechargeable! Just make sure the base station is plugged in (only needed for charging, not normal operation.) and drop the mouse in. The squeeker has a multicolor LED on the back of it. It blinks green when charging, goes solid and then dark when charged. If you're using it and it starts blinking red, better get 'er into the charger soon. We found that under standard usage the mouse lasted roughly 12 hours before it died. Not bad. Whenever I get up from my desk for more than a few minutes I just throw it into the charger and top it up.
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http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/mouse/logitechmx700/index.htm

The MX 700 charger is meant to be used, and comes packaged with, two Nickel Metal-Hydride (NiMH) batteries. A standard set of 1700 mAH NiMH batteries will require approximately 2 hours to totally recharge. Service time of fully charged batteries has been rated by Logitech to a very generous 12 hours. During testing the mouse was used very liberally for a four hour period and then left to sit overnight without charging, in the face-down service position. After an approximate nine hours of down time use of the mouse was resumed and it took approximately three hours before the red LED indicator on the mouse began to flash and we were presented with the Mouse Batteries are Low, please place the mouse in the charger......" dialog box. This represents the very-real "forgetting to recharge the mouse" scenario.
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http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/logitech_mx700_mouse/index.shtml

I found that a full charge, (from a dead mouse to a fully-charged one), took about 1 hour, maybe less. If you drop the mouse in the charger when the LED goes red, I found it usually only take 30-40mins or so to charge it fully. You don't even have to wait for a full charge - charging it for a few minutes can yield some substantial use time if you're in hurry. A full charge usually lasted around 8-12hrs of usage time, but your mileage may vary depending on your usage habits, and how much gaming you do. (Games, especially action ones, will elicit more intense mouse movement.) As you'll note, the usage time you get from a full set of batteries in the MX700 is far less than with previous wireless mice. This is mainly due to the Fast RF technology, and the use of rechargeable batteries. Because the NiMH batteries included are less prone to the "memory effect" seen in other rechargeables, you don't have to wait until the MX700 is dead, or even until the red LED warning is on, to charge the mouse. Any time you're away from the computer, you can just pop the MX700 in its base for a quick charge to make sure you won't run out at bad time.
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Does the 'click area' on these just bend down or what? doesnt look like any seperations for a button... (looking at my MS explorer mouse)


Btw do any of these feel near the ms explorer? I love the way this fits the hand.
 
Originally posted by BoogerB
Does the 'click area' on these just bend down or what? doesnt look like any seperations for a button... (looking at my MS explorer mouse)


Btw do any of these feel near the ms explorer? I love the way this fits the hand.
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It fit's nicely in my Hand's, and I have large ones.

As for the Batterie's lasting only 12 Hours, that is total BS, the lasted me around 3 days of heavy gaming and surfing, then I got the Energizer 2100's and the last around 5-6 np.

When I first got it it had the Stock 1700mAH batteries, I charged it up the night before I had one of our 3 day LAN parties, and it lasted the whole LAN, now that is a lot of Movement. If you're soo worried about it put it on the Charger when you are not using it, that way it'll always be fresh when it's needed...

/IoWnZa
 
Originally posted by BoogerB
Does the 'click area' on these just bend down or what? doesnt look like any seperations for a button... (looking at my MS explorer mouse)

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exactly, they just bend down. gives it the cleanest look on a mouse ive seen.
 
Originally posted by jwill
exactly, they just bend down. gives it the cleanest look on a mouse ive seen.
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Exactly, no visual seperation. It's wonderful, it doesn't look like that they are button's.

/IoWnZa
 
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