Multiplayer? Sorry, no thanks.

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TheNuker

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Is there anyone else that has grown to despise online gaming? I simply CAN'T stand it anymore. 12year old AOLers have become epidemic, they run rampant from server to server, infecting every possible game they can come in contact with.

This last week I finally removed Warcraft3, one of the last online games I had installed, since I simply couldn't stand it anymore. It's impossible to have a decent match without someone that cheats or screws up other people's games on purpose or because they are simply retards. Playing online has become a source of frustration rather than enjoyment and stress relief.

The only online game I have left is Quake1 with Team Fortress, since it seems that kids can't bother to manually edit config files to get it up and running, and the few people left playing it are (usually) mature enough to provide a fun ride, but that doesn't happen everyday.

Lately I've found myself playing games in single player only. Currently I'm having a blast playing stuff like Oblivion (after digging a lot of mods to adapt it to my liking. I admit I've always criticized it and I still think that Bethesda could've done a much better job instead of letting players fix their mess). There are other games but I will not list them here since this is not the point of this thread.

Basically playing online seems to be doomed and I can't see a brighter future for it. With companies relying on multiplayer to sell their games and making it readily available for people of any age (although I've seen 14 year old boys/girls behaving more maturely than 30yo guys/gals....), this can't look good for anyone. There's of course people that can control theirselves on this addiction (or at least tell themselves so...), but the majority can't, and sometimes even look confused about the real thing and the virtual one.

Stuff like World of Warcrack and second life, which IMO will be remembered in the future (if there's gonna be one) as the dark ages, part deux, of mankind where millions of people got addicted to computer games and marked a new era for psychological science, with entire bookshelves dedicated to it.

/rant, this got into my nerves and I hate to spit it out.
 
This is why you find a good fucking clan and play some real games. PUG's are just retarted. :eek:

Also, World of Warcraft went out of my computer years ago, it is just rediculously stupid, and Second LIfe? ya......
 
Yeah online gaming used to be awesome.. I fear it's only going to get worse as time goes on :(
 
i agree for the most part i only play single player stuff,i beta tested the first CS and it was a tonne of fun back then, now i wouldn't even think of joining a CS:S server. i stopped playing online when Q3 specificly RA3 became so irriating to play i wanted to smash my moniter. i tried getting back into it with Q4 and D3 but the old quake players just weren't there. i still fire up Wolf:ET every now and again, i can get lucky a find a good server.

i miss the Q2 days when i could get up on a saturday morning and play RA2 on one server for 4 hours straight and never once get into it with some punk

i think its why i never got in to massive online stuff.

Quake Wars:ET will bring out some of the old quake players but i dout it.
 
Wildace said:
i dont run into too many people that bother me.
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Same, I jsut choose to ignore assholes, and there are not that many of them that I have seen, I play:
WoW- uninstalled due to it simply sucking
LOTRO
COD2
CSS
BF2142
MOH:A - only played MP once problems
 
I usually have chat disabled in pubs for any game. You really should primarily play team games with people that you know and can cooperate with, its much more enjoyable.
 
Lord, get in with a mature clan that has a active server. The one I'm in for BF and CSS (www.kofclan.com), hell, we will ban you just because your an idiot. Yes, there are days, but after a few kicks/bans, it settles down right nice :).
 
I liked the Quake 1 days. Hacks and cheats werent easily accessible by anyone with a keyboard. So most were private and under control. And the atmosphere/feel of Quake1 was a great feeling. And also, very few games since then have given me that sense of "wow" when I played my first game of Q1 TFC.
 
TheNuker said:
(although I've seen 14 year old boys/girls behaving more maturely than 30yo guys/gals....).
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Hehehe, you make me feel special, im one of the 14 year old boys behaving more maturely than he 30 year old guys. I run into it quite a lot. It kinda annoys me that people cant act mature online, especially in games like css.

/end rant
 
Its far harder to find good pubs these days because most of the better more grown up players tend to be in clans or guilds or some description.

I tried playing DOD:S again today and man with that KAR I'm practically unstoppable, ploughing through enemies and capping flags like there's no tomorrow. But somehow I always end up on the losing side and the lack of cooperation between you and the other players just hinders the game so damn much. In the end I just get frustrated waiting for just one other person on the team to work out that a 2 man cap flag needs another person.

I could play in a clan but to be quite honest I dont have the time or commitment to be playing clan games at certain times on certain days and all the rest of it.

I figure as soon as UT3 is out I'm going to play DM because it's the only game mode where you don't have to worry about other players being idiots or letting you down, it's sad but it's true.
 
I loved playing MP when I was younger, that is... when I had no life, didn't work that much or didn't bother with school, just gamed all day all night.. the funny thing is, that's exactly the way you become really good at games.. but now that I'm 34 with a wife, house, full time job, etc, I don't have that much time to game so by the time I'm playing online I get owned, not always, but more than I used to and it becomes frustrating, add the annoying players on top of it and it makes for a sour experience.. so yeah, I enjoy playing SP so much more.. that's not to say I'll quit MP forever cause it can still be a lot of fun, but as others have said, it's not like it used to be
 
Mac[X-D];1031417347 said:
i agree for the most part i only play single player stuff,i beta tested the first CS and it was a tonne of fun back then, now i wouldn't even think of joining a CS:S server. i stopped playing online when Q3 specificly RA3 became so irriating to play i wanted to smash my moniter.
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I've seen you around in RA3 many times, as I've been playing ra3 for years. I can absolutely agree that the mod appeals to a handful of lifers that just can't play without flaming eachother in chat. I've almost stopped playing that mod, and haven't for months. I think the OPs point is more than being solved with finding a good clan or dedicated server... It says much much more about online behavior and in a big way society. Every year its gets more apparent that people just have no fucking self control or chivalry online, as each online server gets worse and worse in every game. You simply cannot say its b/c of more people, as many q3 servers in particular were crowded years ago, and rarely you encountered the creeps you do today.

I sometimes log off servers in such disgust I question if I belong online playing with people I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.. I sure as fuck don't wanna perpetuate this behavior, but I also don't wanna sit and tolerate it and basically condoning it, making me look just as sad...

I understand people get frustrated and arguments start, but when a player logs on and plays for 2 - 3 hours straight spamming a bind, not moving and basically instigating confrontations... If this were real life, it would be like a guy standing on the edge of a football field yelling constantly, throwing food and fecal matter all over, and telling everyone off.. for 2 - 4 hours... Oh I guess b/c there isn't a crowd of civilized people gang beating you in your mom's basement, its ok to do.

Sure clans / guilds and locked servers will help improve your gaming experience, but I think people should worry more about the decline of intellect and morality in the people connecting to these servers.:(
 
It really is a sociological issue and not about just those who are into online gaming.

Society has been declining in terms of depth, maturity, respect and many other important, once-revered social attributes, faster and faster as the years pass.

I miss the days when you didn't even need to belong to a clan and could hop on a server and have people work together and have fun without even knowing one another. Of course, I haven't really experienced that since the days of the original SoF and SoF2.

It's disgusting what the world is becoming, but that's the "human condition" and is only going to continue to get worse, so don't expect something like online gaming experience to get any better.

In a world filled predominantly at this point with nothing but "talking monkeys", who can hardly even maintain themselves in a respectable manner in their personal lives in the real world, disaster awaits on a far bigger level than just in the gaming world.

On that note, I'm always looking for mature gamers who are into (especially) FPS, so drop me a line if you're interested. I've even got my wife playing more these days. I would have no problems getting a serious adult clan going for mainly FPS titles such as UT3, and some other games that have multi-player attached, such as Crysis etc.
 
ObscureTerror said:
It really is a sociological issue and not about just those who are into online gaming.

Society has been declining in terms of depth, maturity, respect and many other important, once-revered social attributes, faster and faster as the years pass.

I miss the days when you didn't even need to belong to a clan and could hop on a server and have people work together and have fun without even knowing one another. Of course, I haven't really experienced that since the days of the original SoF and SoF2.

It's disgusting what the world is becoming, but that's the "human condition" and is only going to continue to get worse, so don't expect something like online gaming experience to get any better.

In a world filled predominantly at this point with nothing but "talking monkeys", who can hardly even maintain themselves in a respectable manner in their personal lives in the real world, disaster awaits on a far bigger level than just in the gaming world.

On that note, I'm always looking for mature gamers who are into (especially) FPS, so drop me a line if you're interested. I've even got my wife playing more these days. I would have no problems getting a serious adult clan going for mainly FPS titles such as UT3, and some other games that have multi-player attached, such as Crysis etc.
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Wow. You're using online gaming as evidence of ultimate human self-destruction and then recruiting people to play. That's fucking psychotic, dude.

People have always been fuckheads when given an audience and anonymity. The internet is a giant audience and almost total anonymity.
 
Woah, take it easy there, buddy.

I'm not using strictly of the online gaming world as "evidence" in and of itself. Open your eyes and take a look around sometime.

It's just another example through which the attitudes etc. of people in general can be seen as clearly getting worse.

I don't base judgment of sociological issues on people's attitudes in online games. It was simply an example that I (and others) can/have personally used that shows how the behavior of people has degraded, whether or not in general people have always been fucked, especially online, which they have.

Maybe before fucking attacking people, you should try to get the point of what's written and what's "behind it", kiddo... it was one small example of a bigger picture, and I was making a larger point that was clearly not based on gaming, and simply relating the two. Pay attention.
 
I completely agree.
I have always enjoyed CS 1.6 and will not touch source, but it is hard to find a fun server to just log into and enjoy for 30 minutes every so often. I finally found one, but it is still a pain because the admins are very laid back about cheaters, and what not. While if you say or do something stupid they warn you, and next time kick you, but they seem to hardly ban people.
 
I will agree finding a good clan server is a goldmine, the problem is they tend to be hard to get on to and the skill level tends to be so much higher, I'm a good player but still believe my position is seated well in public servers, I don't play nearly enough to keep up with the pro's but will quite happily ace a public server.

I think now a days there's too many kids playing adult orientated games, theres so many 10-11 year old CS:S players who despite being male sound female over voice comms (you know the kind, I know you know!) Equally theres many more servers run by kids as well, admins who can't take other people winning and are ban happy, who leave servers un moderated which end up in mindless cheating and lameness.

More often than not I can get by on a decent clan server, I find that my ranking tends to fall from top of the scoreboard down to the top 1/3 which is acceptable for me, but for those who are still beginners these are tough places to play, and let's be fair, winning for most people is half the fun.

Games do tend to be geared towards confrontation, I mean It's hard to blame people who explode into fits of rage online when your 4 hour game of supcom has just ended in you stomping all over their base with 1000 mechs, after they'd built up a small empire, this is the primary reason I won't play RTS games online.

Not to mention netcode, or badly written net code, in the days of old you had to lead your targets to hit, now a days CSS and others like it are packed with aim prediction code, only it allows for some really gay things to "apparantly" happen, like getting shot around corners or through otherwise impenitrable objects. There's nothing quite like unloading half a clip of belt fed SAW ammo into someones eyeball at point blank range and totaly missing, again it's not hard to see how this might anger people, had my fare share of it in the past.
 
Nothing like fragging somebody and have them either say "No" or "BS".
I had somebody in ETQW start shooting me from behind then I turned around and killed him. He started yelling "BS" and "Cheat" then he disconnected:)
Most times they call a kick vote on me cuz I am killing too many people with the tank.and the sad part is the vote passes:(
 
I used to play Quake 3 Beryllium on Chaos Theory, which was a server that was run by one guy, but basically inhabited exclusively by a collective of clans that kept it going. It was the most fun, and most challenging, of my Quake 3 days. There were guys on there that I could always count on to kick my ass and make me like it. I'll never in my life forget the names STRIKESLIP and Bosephus, they killed me so many times.

While it was a public server and there were no passwords, I don't recall ever experiencing douchebaggery on it. For the most part, every name I saw log in was a familiar name. They even had an annual LAN party, but I was never able to go. I still communicate, off and on, with some of the guys I used to play with back then.

That was more than 6 years ago, and I've never found another community like it. Those were the good old days.
 
think yourselves lucky, i have never been able to play online from home as i cant get a good broadband connection, (have to use my mobile phone) so im limited to turn based games like tiger woods and flatout 2 bonus game, However even in those i have not come across any idiots
 
I've always enjoyed multiplayer, but it's a lost cause at times. In BF2, for instance, most sessions consist of chat/voice spamming, teamkilling/force TKing, exploiting and pre-mature base raping (most of the time, all of this is going on simultaneously). Every now and then, I seem to hit a "magic" time slot where players are relatively mature, cooperative and the game is fun. I'd suspect that happens less than 5% of the time. Sometimes I can tolerate it the infants, and sometimes I can't. Every time I launch the game, there's no guarantee than I'll be playing longer than a few minutes to feel it out. With CS:S, I've actually had a bit more luck, though perhaps that's due more to game design than anything else.

There are always retards. Always. Even when you play with people you know, that doesn't mean they aren't going to end up fucking up the game. It tends to sour the taste, but it's still a good change of pace from singleplayer -- sometimes.

The best multiplayer game would be one where everyone is locked in place and cannot do or say anything. That'd be the only guarantee that retards wouldn't end up causing problems.
 
Why can't you people just have fun with the newbs? If they are so immature, then they probably suck at the game, and the only way for them to have fun is to be immature. Personally I love to own immature people and make them leave. Nothing like a mic spammer getting owned every round and left speechless, shortly followed by "newb101 has left the game". They cheat?, Find a new server... its not that hard.... Don't want to find a new server, buy your own? I kinda see where yall are coming from, there’s always a mute option. Anyways.. :)
 
Eh, I'm on CS:S all the time and maybe once a week I'll run into one of those assholes that will hold his mic button down and play shitty music the entire match....but other than that I don't really run into much trouble...

:confused:

Loves me my CS:S
 
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