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Curiosity has gotten the better of me and so I picked up this board to try, as I've really lost confidence in my 680i to support a demanding quad core OC long term.
Instead of waiting for info about this product, I thought I'd find stuff out for myself and contribute. I recently created an "Official P7N Info" thread at Xtreme Systems and finished a lengthy post with some good setup and preliminary OC / benchmarking info. Forgive me for not repeating the same stuff here, but please do visit the thread if you're interested:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=178286
jus my 2 cents you couldn't pay me to put an msi board in anything. every one i have ever seen has some stupid glich. either video cards dont work bios's wont flash properly, sound doesn't work you name it ive seen it on msi boards and i can't stand them
like i said jus my 2 cents on it
jus my 2 cents you couldn't pay me to put an msi board in anything. every one i have ever seen has some stupid glich. either video cards dont work bios's wont flash properly, sound doesn't work you name it ive seen it on msi boards and i can't stand them
like i said jus my 2 cents on it
I don't think I've EVER built a rig where the motherboard didn't have some type of foolish malfunction..... and I've used just about every major brand. Makes me question the state of QA in this vertical.
The only motherboard that was close enough to perfect was a SiS based Asrock for Socket A... used that model for about 10 machines without any issues... even got some decent little overclocks when needed. Capacitor plague showed its ugly head about 3 years later on about half of them though.![]()
Ok, IF you "hate" MSI why not make some suggestion for an alternative? See I've had some MSI boards that worked fine, and others that had "issues". I've also had a series of good boards from Asus, and now 2 of those have got real problems and Asus Tech Support is ignoring them. I also wanted a Non-Intel chipset board. I couldn't see one from Gigabyte, an from the EVGA forums I've determined that they have a fairly high failure rate. I didn't have too many other choices besides MSI for a 780i chipset board.
Now you say your just giving us your "2 cents worth", but if you don't have anything positive to contribute, why don't you do something else besides search for "MSI" and "flame on"!!
I don't think I've EVER built a rig where the motherboard didn't have some type of foolish malfunction..... and I've used just about every major brand. Makes me question the state of QA in this vertical.
The only motherboard that was close enough to perfect was a SiS based Asrock for Socket A... used that model for about 10 machines without any issues... even got some decent little overclocks when needed. Capacitor plague showed its ugly head about 3 years later on about half of them though.![]()
Ouch... I hate to break it to you Cannydog, but the P7N uses an AMI Bios like the ASUS boards. However, it is configured a bit differently. Layout wise it's more like the Award BIOSes on the reference boards, but make no mistake -- it's still American Megatrends.
Comparing the two, I've found that the Award / Phoenix BIOS on the reference design has a more responsive UI. However, the MSI BIOS can tune more voltages, including ref. voltages, and it doesn't try to guess a vCore if you leave that setting on AUTO, which I quite like. While both BIOSes feature manual / unliked RAM mode (where you can set your RAM speed independent of FSB,) the Award / Phoenix BIOS also allows you to set dividers when RAM is in linked mode (as if you were using an Intel chipset.) As far as I can tell, the MSI BIOS's linked mode automatically sets a divider based upon strap. Still, you can always get the divider you're looking for by doing some math and setting the RAM speed appropriately in manual mode. On the other hand, the MSI BIOS features a dynamic one-setting OC system, like ASUS's level up feature, regardless of whether or not you use EPP RAM.
I'd say both have their pluses and minuses, but I wouldn't single out one as being ultimately better than the other. What it comes down to is that they're both BIOSes. Nothing to get excited about.
Now when EFI enters the world of over-clocking, that'll be interesting![]()
ok here is my suggestions
DFI
ASUS
ABit
Gigabye
Intel
ECS
anything else you can think of but MSI
Instead of just reeling off some names. Tell us what your using and why you like it. See I like DFI, but they don't have a 780i board out just yet. Same thing with Gigabyte and Abit. There are some EVGA and XFX 780i boards but they follow reference design, and while their RMA policies are excellent, they have some Quality Issues. That leaves Assus, whom I'm currently fighting with over my P5E. And the ONLY other maker is MSI!!
Hi everyone. My new rig arrived today and it has a P7N Diamond in it. I will be following a guide I have to take my E8400 to 4.0Ghz. I will post my success or otherwise stories starting tomorrow. Initially I was very worried about the board, when I announced it in the HF Overclocking forum, all I got was flack for having chosen this board along with my Transcend Axeram PC8500 1066 ram. I didn't choose the ram myself, I left that to the guys who built the rig. I have checked on review of both parts ... the ram got impressive scores for overclocking on vr-zone and the P7N mobo has had some successes over at Xtreme Systems. Anyways I'll let you know how things go.
In respect to CPU cooling, I have a Termaltake Big Typoon on it and it fits great on this mobo, and it's cooling abilities are on par with the leaders in this category.
Well my P7N Diamond arrived on Thursday evening. On Friday I installed it, but failed to wipe the HDD that I was using for the OS (in this case WinXP MCE). So yesterday I had to "clean" the hard drive and start over...
With two small exceptions the board runs perfectly. 1. Nvidia drive controller software can be extremely finicky about how you install it. I had to a) install the SMB bus drivers and network drivers, b) then install the JMicron drivers, c) and finally install the Nvidia Media Shield hard drive controller drivers. My first attempt I could not get those JMicron drivers installed, so the eSATA wouldn't work. 2. The Front Panel Audio connector on that custom X-Fi board does not seem to work properly yet. The sound card works fine. But I wanted to use the Front Ports on my case for a headphone and mic. I'm consulting MSI's tech support about this but don't have it resolved yet.
At least now I can be sure my memory is running properly. Even though all 4 Corsair modules I have don't work together. I may experiment with my memory speeds and see if I can get it running. The only impediment is that the primary PCI-E slot is high on the board , so my 8800 GTS has to be pulled to change the memory modules. (I'll need a couple of days just to get all my software installed - then I'll create a drive image first.)
Now if I could just afford a second 8800GTS...![]()
Sounds like a bad board or PSU. If you have a spare PSU, try hooking that up. If not, then I'd say RMA the board. The Corsair is a great unit and should have no trouble with your setup.
Btw, I've had great success today with my P7N. A successful super-pi bench at 4.05ghz (1.55v) and stability at 3.6ghz (1.45v and dropping.) This is the first non-reference board I've seen that works out of the box and doesn't suck at OCing. Very exciting, very exciting indeed!!![]()