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Mouse? New to PC gaming

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CyberKP4

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Fired up some BF3 and I've been getting rocked. It's definitely going to take some getting use to playing on a PC compared to xbox.

Currently I'm using a Logitech Performance MX mouse. I've noticed when I zoom in to snipe, I have a hard time making small adjustments. Even when I make a smooth correction, it isn't smooth on screen. Is this a mouse issue, game lag, etc?

I'm trying to figure out if I need to get a wired gaming mouse.
 
Has nothing to do with wireless specifically, but more about the power management choices and tracking qualities of the sensor in the Performance MX. You won't get near the battery life of the Performance MX with a current wireless gaming mouse, but you'll get significantly improved tracking performance. Or you can go with a wired one if you prefer.
 
You may also need to adjust your sensitivity. I like having on the fly DPI adjustments so I can slow down the mouse tracking for certain things like sniping.
 
Exactly for these reasons I have 2 sets of keyboard/mouses.

Wireless for work and wired for BF3 gaming :)
 
I really like my Logitech G400.

It's wired, so battery life isn't an issue. It's fairly light, the software to program it is solid, and it has buttons that can adjust DPI on the fly (you can also reprogram them to do whatever you want, as is true of the several other buttons). I've been very happy with my G400. I paid $41.99 this February; it is listed at $34.99 with free shipping right now on Newegg. Which is a pretty good deal.
 
Disable Acceleration in windows. Or possibly disable some of the HIDS in device manager for your USB devices, Logitech peripherals are known for their poorly slipstreamed drivers causing issues for certain programs and games especially, due to the HID's.
 
Radical said:
If you're new to PC gaming, I think the best advice is to not believe the hype regarding gaming mice. You don't need a mouse with 10,000 DPI, and in most cases wireless vs wired isn't going to make a difference. The issue you're having can most likely be fixed by changing your sensitivity. Check out this article to get started: http://counterstrikesourcetactics.blogspot.com/2008/02/css-mouse-optimization-guide.html
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I disagree. Over the course of time, I was able to easily control a sustained setting of 5600 DPI on my Razer Mamba - though I usually clocked it down to 3600 or so as my favorite setting. The Mamba is both wired and wireless. Personally, even though Razer claims that the input lag is the same both wired and wireless (1ms), I could feel the difference and always felt like I was slightly behind on the wireless, so I ended up just leaving it plugged in all the time.

Being able to control high-DPI means you have to move your hand less distance to turn around and go from aiming at one point to another, which translates to quicker response times, which means you get the drop on people faster, which means you become awesome at BF3.

Also, your gaming surface is extremely important. Investing $30 in a nice metal surface is not a bad idea. The Razer metal mats work well with the teflon feet on the mice they produce.

Each person has a preference on what mouse they like. I've personally been using Razer for 10 years and like how they are shaped for my hand. Other people like Microsoft mice, Corsair mice, you name it. Some people try 20 mice and hate them all.

So my advice:
- Go wired on everything
- Get the highest DPI you can control (you can usually re-program gaming mice to run at various DPIs, they're not usually pegged at the highest - the Mamba has 5 settings I control with buttons on the mouse and I set what those settings are with software)
- Get a decent gaming surface for your mouse
- It takes time to get used to higher DPIs. You might need to start out lower around 2000 and slowly increase it over time.
 
get a Deathadder + QcK+ pad
mouse pointer speed setting 6/11
turn off "Enhance Pointer Precision"
use MarkC Win7 Mouse Fix <-- they have good videos about how to setup your pc and mouse speed
Increase USB Sample Rate
getting used to low mouse speed is the secret, I used to set it at around 2000dpi but now I use 900dpi. high speed is fine for games like TF2 and L4D not BF and CS.
 
700 (close to 720), 900, 1800, 3600, 7200 are the best DPIs. it's a lot easier to perfectly match sensitivity across games using these settings. so, a decent mouse with 100dpi increments is vital. i use 3 settings: 700, 1800 and 3600. some games that use a slider for mouse sense set to minimum are perfect at 700 dpi (these are games designed for use with a controller and ported to pc) whereas other games are best at 0.4/0.2/0.1/0.05 using 3600 dpi. i have a logitech g500 for my lappy and a razer mamba for the desktop. the wireless is awesome.
 
DMFD-Minister said:
I disagree. Over the course of time, I was able to easily control a sustained setting of 5600 DPI on my Razer Mamba - though I usually clocked it down to 3600 or so as my favorite setting. The Mamba is both wired and wireless. Personally, even though Razer claims that the input lag is the same both wired and wireless (1ms), I could feel the difference and always felt like I was slightly behind on the wireless, so I ended up just leaving it plugged in all the time.

Being able to control high-DPI means you have to move your hand less distance to turn around and go from aiming at one point to another, which translates to quicker response times, which means you get the drop on people faster, which means you become awesome at BF3.

Also, your gaming surface is extremely important. Investing $30 in a nice metal surface is not a bad idea. The Razer metal mats work well with the teflon feet on the mice they produce.

Each person has a preference on what mouse they like. I've personally been using Razer for 10 years and like how they are shaped for my hand. Other people like Microsoft mice, Corsair mice, you name it. Some people try 20 mice and hate them all.

So my advice:
- Go wired on everything
- Get the highest DPI you can control (you can usually re-program gaming mice to run at various DPIs, they're not usually pegged at the highest - the Mamba has 5 settings I control with buttons on the mouse and I set what those settings are with software)
- Get a decent gaming surface for your mouse
- It takes time to get used to higher DPIs. You might need to start out lower around 2000 and slowly increase it over time.
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this is not true at all, I'm part of BL platoon that our guys get called "cheaters" the whole time when pubbing,everyone of us uses optical mice set to medium-low sensitivities along with huge mousepads like mantis speed qck heavy and puretrak talent !

If you really want minimum input lag and fluid mouse movement then get a 120hz monitor and make sure that you're playing on a single gpu - vsync is off - your system pumps >=60fps CONSTANT - HPET in BIOS is DISABLED - max render frames / flip queue size is to "1", wired or wireless should be the least of your concerns !

A low sensitivity - say, your whole big-ass mousepad for a complete 360 turn - will be much more forviging to someone who has just started aiming with a mouse, laser mice are NOT reliable when doing fast swipes, you either get HUGE amounts of negative acceleration or slight amounts of positive, OP has had enough BS trying to aim with a joystick in the past !

It's time for him to finally get 1:1 response from his input device, no positive/negative acceleration no angle snapping no dynamic dpi scaling ( you hear that Razer ? ) and no lift off BS, so he has to get a decent optical mouse( roccat savu - coolermaster spawn/recon - razer deathadder/abbysus, logitech G400, zowie EC and AM series ) disable mouse acceleration in windows, enable raw input in-game and enchance his muscle memory

English is not my native language so i think this guy says it better

http://defragdev.com/blog/?tag=angle-snapping


this link contains a TON of info as well - > http://www.overclock.net/t/1251156/an-overview-of-mouse-technology
 
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Had the same problem and bought a Rocketfish metal 2 sided pad and fixed the problem
 
I tried the Performance MX a couple of years ago, it was really bad for gaming, I suggest a G700, it's possible to operate wirelessly if you want. I just don't think the Performance MX is made for gaming, and it's old, so definitely try something else. G9X is also good, but G700 has more side buttons.
 
I can't speak highly enough of the Logitech G700. Then again, I came from the Logitech MX500, so you could say that my hands have grown accustomed to the shape and heft of these mice. Tracking is buttery smooth with this mouse. Shame that Logitech hasn't developed proper support for the G700 under Mac OS X :)
 
yetieater said:
I can't speak highly enough of the Logitech G700. Then again, I came from the Logitech MX500, so you could say that my hands have grown accustomed to the shape and heft of these mice. Tracking is buttery smooth with this mouse. Shame that Logitech hasn't developed proper support for the G700 under Mac OS X :)
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Another vote for the G700. I've got two of them. They've been great.
 
I have a MS Sidewinder mouse. Only 2000 dpi. The newer ones do 4k dpi. I get sick of swapping dpi, so a midrange 2000 dpi is fine for me. Works well in games and just on the desktop. Anyways, with a gaming mouse nowadays, they all pretty much function the same. I just prefer the Sidewinder mice, as I prefer the shape of the mouse. After getting whatever gaming mouse, you just have to start getting use to it.

Have it running over a Razer hard double-sided mouse pad. I need to replace it, since the coating or whatever is starting to go. I've had it for maybe 4-5 years. Looking at the Razer Vespula. Think that's a newer version of what I have. $37 from Razer or $100 on Amazon. WTF!?!

I think the most important thing is mousing surface. I've gone through so many different kinds of mice pads, until I landed on the hard Razer pad. Definitely don't go with frosted glass. Damn thing was always cold to the touch (terrible in winter) and didn't even work with my mouse anyways. I ended up keeping it to use with one of those blue light whatever MS mice, then I used it as target practice with my S&W Sigma .40.
 
I had the g9x for about 6 months and could never get used to the shape. OP did you ever make a decision?
 
CyberKP4 - The problem may be in tracking qualities of the sensor as someone wrote about before. You can also adjust the mouse sensitivity - pretty obvious but may be helpful though.
 
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