Motion blur help

[Sidders]

First id like to say hi to you all HI

Right i have a problem with my monitor and it is driving me crazy.

I bought my first tft, a 22" w/s asus 5 ms monitor 4 week ago but it was blurring the text on web pages when i scrolled and i had bad motion blur in games ( by that i mean if i look around me the background blurs so badly that it makes me feel dizzy. So i take the monitor back and get a 19" 5ms LG w/s tft. Same thing happened with text and gaming. I take that monitor back and replace it for the one i have now which is a samsung 2032BW 20" w/s with a 2ms response time and according to xbit labs this monitor is great for gaming but not for me it seems as i have the same problem as the other 2 monitors. Im at my wits end, can this motion blur be caused by something other than the monitor itself like the mobo im using, Asrock 4coredual VSTA or could it be the fact that the card is running in 4x pciE mode, or the card itself? The card is a x1950 pro 512mb PCI-e.

Ive tried vsync on/off, on is twice as bad. ive got the latest ati drivers. i even reinstalled xp but no joy. Any help on this would be really appreciated

Also My card has a DVI-I Dual Link connection and the monitor has a DVI-D connection. The dvi cable supplied is a DVI-D single link. Now if i got a dual link DVI-D cable would this improve things?

Like i said this problem has been the same on all 3 monitors i have tried so im assuming it isnt monitor related. Please help me.

 

[orangeble]

Welcome to the wonderful world of LCDs ! Some level of ghosting (motion blur) is evident on even the "fastest" LCD monitors and televisions. From your post, it sounds like you have been using a CRT for some time, so I'm not surprised that this experience comes as a shock to you. You may get used to this ghosting over time, but if not, you may just have to go back to using a CRT and wait for a better technology than LCD to come around.

BTW, if you want to rule out your computer as a problem, try hooking up a different PC to your display if you have one avaliable. If not, you could always hook your computer back up to a CRT monitor and see if you still experience this motion blur.

 

[UrielDagda]

If you are used to CRTs then you are just experiencing the normal LCD effect of retinal persistance.. Since LCDs just paint new frames over old ones, the retinas of your eyes don't have time to adjust and you get a blur... That is an affect avoided on CRTs because the picture decays and vanishes between frames, giving your retinas enough time to see the next frame as a fresh new picture... I believe there are some LCDs out there that try to remedy it with a mode that will cycle the backlight(s) off and on 60 times a second, but they cause flickering.

 

[DeathCom]

@Sidders, like you I was a CRT user for years. CRT monitors, CRT HDTVs. Since my CRT PC monitor died, Ive been trying out many LCDs. Motion blur is always an issue, but I did get a little use to it (its been about two months of crappy LCD 'spares' Ive had with some 20+ms response time too). Anyway, scrolling text will always be an issue with typical LCDs, but I found it to be tolerable in most fast moving games. In some cases I think it helps the framerate due to the inter frame blending, especially if your not getting above 60fps.. However, if your above 60fps the games look less fluid and more messy than on a CRT. This is probably what your seeing most. Anyway, there are advantages I did come to like. Much easier on the eyes due to zero flicker, perfect geometry, and on a good modern LCD, still image quality is pretty close to a good CRT as well (so long as you get a good angle your viewing it from).

Edit: As UrielDagda mentioned something about the flickering LCDs, I found some info on this BenQ display that has a motion technology that inserts black frames between the actual frames to sorta snap the LCD back to a clean slate before displaying the next frame of information. It claims to be perfect motion but Id have to see it. Check it out here. It seems like it may be simple enough that perhaps a video card could simulate it... but then probably not unless the display could take 120hz signals.

-DeathCom

 

[Sidders]

I did some testing on bf2 last night and found that if i set my ingame res to 1024x768 i could use refresh of 75 but it still run pretty crap with trees and buildings having a green coloured blur coming off the edges when i panned them, but strangely when i disabled the RTA option on the monitor itself everything cleared up with minimal blur and no flaring green colours. Is RTA response time accelerator and if so why does it make things worse when it is on ?


Oh and yes ive been gaming on crt for 13 years with 100hz

I just came about this post on google http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1184546, seems that there is a problem with RTA turned on.

 

[E.T]

but strangely when i disabled the RTA option on the monitor itself everything cleared up with minimal blur and no flaring green colours. Is RTA response time accelerator and if so why does it make things worse when it is on ?

Might be badly adjusted or getting out of control.
Little like that ghosting problem in Dell 2407WFP-HC:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/dell_2407wfp-hc.htm

if i set my ingame res to 1024x768 i could use refresh of 75

No sense to input signal at 75Hz, panel itself is operated always at 60Hz and every fifth frame is simply dropped away.

 

[Marcdaddy]

I have Zero motion blur/ghosting with my AcerP243W 2 ms panel

 

[UrielDagda]

I have Zero motion blur/ghosting with my AcerP243W 2 ms panel

I'm sure you would notice it if you put it side by side with a CRT. Although I guess some people are more suseptable to retinal persistence than others.