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Right now I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials. Is there anything I'm missing out on here? I'm not stupid about which sites I use or anything like that, but is there something better than MSE that I don't know of? What do you guys use?
 
Really any of them besides symantec and mcafee should be fine with safe browsing.
 
I use Comodo, acutely customizable, 64bit, & fabtastic parallel processing.
 
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The only other anti-virus I have usee besides MSE is Avira. Both are great, and don't have any noticeable performance impact. Avira does have more false-positives though.
 
I use Avast 5. You're good to go with MSE though, if you like it stick with it.
 
kaspersky internet security 2010, i have been using kaspersky ever since it was kaspersky antivirus and kaspersky anti-hacker, i havent even looked at anything else
 
dont get me wrong, i have tried other programs,
but im talking about ones like
pc-cillin 98
norton 2000->2002
microsoft security essentials
and a few others, but then i found kis2010, and i have never looked back

but then again, i am not saying that if someone recommends a new program to me, i wouldnt give it a bash, but so far i havent found anything that stands up to kis2010

i fix computers for fun, and i have friends and friends of friends who have had there computers stuff up on them, and they have had XXXXXX antivirus, and it doesnt say that have a virus, but then i plug it into my test bench machine, and scan it with kis2010, and it would have 100's of virus and malware etc.
 
The human brain aka "Common Sense" ;)

The rarest gift. Some think they have it, but only a few possess it and fewer master it.
 
AMDXP said:
The human brain aka "Common Sense" ;)

The rarest gift. Some think they have it, but only a few possess it and fewer master it.
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"common sense" is fine, until it happens to you, then it was a "clever attack"

avira also is good, aside from the daily popup ads, which are understandable
 
lol, sorry, but sometimes i need to smile, but i am 99% sure, that if i scanned a computer with kis2010, that was "protected" by mse or avast, and those both said that the system was virus free, that it would have a virus hidden away.
 
MassiveOni said:
but i am 99% sure, that if i scanned a computer with kis2010, that was "protected" by mse or avast, and those both said that the system was virus free, that it would have a virus hidden away.
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I'm 99% sure you'd be wrong. I guess that's my smile for the day. You've already conflicted yourself once, so instead of digging deeper on this and giving us more smiles, do yourself a favor and read up on MSE. You may fix computers for fun, but many of us are IT professionals in charge of corporate networks and security. You can't afford to have a closed-minded approach to any type of products, and you, at one point, admitting not looking at anything else. If I was planning to remove a virus from an infected computer (such as a laptop being overnighted to me right now from a remote office), MSE is the way I'd be going.
 
Disposed said:
Really any of them besides symantec and mcafee should be fine with safe browsing.
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Nothing wrong with the new Symantec, i really wish people would stop bashing them,

Now McCrappy on the other hand!

MaxLOL said:
AVG free and not clicking on mysterious links :D
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Didnt AVg go down the tubes over the last year?

AMDXP said:
The human brain aka "Common Sense" ;)

The rarest gift. Some think they have it, but only a few possess it and fewer master it.
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ya, because when that site you think is safe gets compromised because of say, oh a linked advertisement, or it just simply gets hacked and has code injected, common sense wont save your butt, anyone who chooses not to run AV software these days is only contributing to the problem, why not be pro-active, instead of re-active.
 
MrGuvernment said:
Nothing wrong with the new Symantec, i really wish people would stop bashing them,

Now McCrappy on the other hand!
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If they have changed good for them. However they have earned that reputation and fully deserve it for many years of shitty, slow, bloated and overpriced products. ;)
 
Disposed said:
If they have changed good for them. However they have earned that reputation and fully deserve it for many years of shitty, slow, bloated and overpriced products. ;)
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Bingo. Many companies chose it because of the name.

After years of using a horrible product, many companies finally gave up and jumped ship. If symantec wants their business back they're going to have to earn it.

SEP, for the record, does nothing to help them in this regard.
 
stop!theradio said:
admitting not looking at anything else
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hmmmm, can we all please look back

Massiveoni said:
dont get me wrong, i have tried other programs,
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i believe that i have said that i have tried other programs

if you want everyone to believe, that that a laptop is being "overnighted to you from an remote office" and all you are going to use on it is MSE, then you are not very good at telling the truth.

and dude i use to work at Woodside's International Headquarters here in Perth Western Australia (Woodside Plaza), and i have seen that they dont use MSE.
 
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MSE is not very effective nor capable. As many think it is as so, it is as good as it is free. Now truly any of these antivirus utilities can be as so, but I have seen it all too often not detect and remove (MSE). However, it is free. Caveat emptor.
 
MassiveOni said:
if you want everyone to believe, that that a laptop is being "overnighted to you from an remote office" and all you are going to use on it is MSE, then you are not very good at telling the truth.
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I'm not good at telling the truth? Really? Sorry to break your argument, but MSE will do the job just fine. It's been the only AV to detect and remove the Fake AV strains going around. I always do a follow up with Malwarebytes, but that always comes up clean as well, proving that MSE did the job.
MassiveOni said:
and dude i use to work at Woodside's International Headquarters here in Perth Western Australia (Woodside Plaza), and i have seen that they dont use MSE.
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I'm going to stop you right there, because if you really want to argue based on personal experience, your credibility will be gone, and no one will take you seriously. That ridiculous concept wears out quickly around here, and it is trotted out as proof far too often.

Besides, if you really knew what you were talking about, you'd know why a corporation wouldn't be using MSE.
 
Shikami said:
MSE is not very effective nor capable. As many think it is as so, it is as good as it is free. Now truly any of these antivirus utilities can be as so, but I have seen it all too often not detect and remove (MSE). However, it is free. Caveat emptor.
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Actually it IS very effective, it can go head to head with any of the paid AV which still offer nothing that you can get for free. In that regard, I can't recommend ANY of the so called internet security products as none of them provide better protection than Win7 offers without them and some of them like Panda has many issues which are solved by disabling it.

The only thing I don't like about it is that sometimes file copying is slow.
 
And certainly Symantec doesn't deserve to get my money after all the years of shitty products.

Yes they've gotten better, but still not worth a penny.
 
Shikami said:
MSE is not very effective nor capable. As many think it is as so, it is as good as it is free. Now truly any of these antivirus utilities can be as so, but I have seen it all too often not detect and remove (MSE). However, it is free. Caveat emptor.
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received this today at work. we have Symantec Corporate (endpoint protection 11). it’s not doing a good job at all for some reason. when we moved from version 10 to 11 we had to pay full price as if we never had a previous version before. I begged the network admin to get Kaspersky but he didn’t listen and went to pay something close to $3000.
FYI, he now installs MSE to remove what Symantec wasn’t able to remove.

I don’t care what is installed on my PC at work, it’s an old P4 based HP Compaq desktop with Win XP, but I had to remove Symantec and install MSE because Symantec turns the Pentium 4 to Pentium 1. don’t know about newer editions but this edition is always up-to-date and it’s only good at detecting harmless keygens and cracks :D
 
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Another vote for MSE here. Only gripe about it is how long a full scan takes.
Before MSE I used Nod32 for years, loved it too, but ya can't really beat free and good.
 
MSE is great so far about the only problem I have had, is that it let one of those rogue AntiVirus program install itself and take over one my clients computers. If I forced kill the rogue program, then MSE could detect it, but not remove it. Just did a couple sweeps of the freebie MBAM and it got rid of almost everything, had to clean up a couple of directories and reg keys manually. I dont get why AV programs havent figured out a way to prevent these rogue installs....


At work we use ESET NOD32 AV Business and it is amazing, at $15 a seat per year I don't think you can find a better deal. It took me 5 hours to remove Norton from all the computers on the network manually and 10 minutes to rollout a complete install of ESET, complete with custom configs....
 
Even with MSE installed, how often is it good to run Malwarebytes for good measure.?
 
I run it in my personal systems once a month or so, just as a "second opinion".
 
DeaconFrost said:
I run it in my personal systems once a month or so, just as a "second opinion".
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This ^

MSE does a full scan weekly and I probably kick off a manual malwarebytes scan twice a month. Probably every other week or so right before I go to bed. That way it's all finished before I get up.
 
MaxLOL said:
AVG free and not clicking on mysterious links :D
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Ugh, fuck AVG.

Just install MSE and forget about (nevermind! You already have it installed). It's so light-weight you'll forget it's even running, it updates on its' own all the time, and it scans every week on early sunday morning (unless you specify otherwise). Oh, and anyone telling you to "just watch what you click" doesn't know what they're talking about. You can only be so safe, and honestly, it's not worth the risk. Besides, you don't even notice it's installed anyway and it doesn't have any negative impact (i.e.; slowing down performance or whatnot) anyway, so why wouldn't one run an AV now-a-days? People need to get ride of these XP-days mentalities.

MassiveOni said:
lol, sorry, but sometimes i need to smile, but i am 99% sure, that if i scanned a computer with kis2010, that was "protected" by mse or avast, and those both said that the system was virus free, that it would have a virus hidden away.
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Well I say that you are 100% bullshitting. Hey, check it out, I can pull random statistics out of my ass too.
 
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Actually it IS very effective, it can go head to head with any of the paid AV which still offer nothing that you can get for free. In that regard, I can't recommend ANY of the so called internet security products as none of them provide better protection than Win7 offers without them and some of them like Panda has many issues which are solved by disabling it.

The only thing I don't like about it is that sometimes file copying is slow
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received this today at work. we have Symantec Corporate (endpoint protection 11). it’s not doing a good job at all for some reason. when we moved from version 10 to 11 we had to pay full price as if we never had a previous version before. I begged the network admin to get Kaspersky but he didn’t listen and went to pay something close to $3000.
FYI, he now installs MSE to remove what Symantec wasn’t able to remove.
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Symantec, that is something that would never be touched with us and has failed just as easily as MSE in our tests. We literally watched the host with MSE get infected with a fake anti-virus infection. Tried to remove it with the antivirus, which it supposedly did but did not. Malwarebytes was, of course, successful in identifying that it was not removed. We tested a few things and found surprising results.

Like I said caveat emptor. I will not go on a word, but I will go on personal performed tests and if an antivirus cannot past a simple lab test at work, then it is not going to be used. I do not care what a research labs will say about a product-even if it is Consumer Reports. But again, speaking from a personal experience, MSE is not that good. The only antivirus that we found to be good was Kaspersky. Although sometimes you will get false positives with it.
 
Look anything is going to be better than Norton or Symantec products. I am not suprised MSE can find and remove what others can not detect. For free, you can not beat MSE...though it is no where near the capabilities of a good antivirus like Eset Nod32.

refer here...

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1513978


so much gets past MSE and disables it, it almost seems like its not even there or turned on. Norton, Avast, Mcafee, Trend...all same thing. very weak and slow in their detection methods. I HIGHLY recommend ESET products. i havent seen another AV find and remove MBR rootkit and the latest malware like Nod32 does.

Yes, i deal with this on a daily basis.
 
I use MSE in addition to SpywareBlaster, Spybot S&D (don't use TeaTimer, just the Immunize feature), the monthly Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware scan ..all behind a Smoothwall 3.0 box with Advanced Web Proxy mod and the UrlFilter mod to block "bad" sites categories (ie ..porn,phishing,virus infected) downloaded from URLBlackslist.com (1st download is free, then paid subscription after that).

I've had MSE pop up a couple times when downloading a zipped up file .. but I have never found anything with Mbyte's scans .. I can't say it's all MSE though as I have a few lines of defense implemented .. as well as trying to be "smart" online (which helps a lot but isn't going to save you from a "good" site that has gotten compromised as already stated)

Our county computers at work use Symantec Corporate .. they seem to get infected a lot.. lol (even on the ones they keep updated :rolleyes: )
 
Shikami said:
I will not go on a word, but I will go on personal performed tests and if an antivirus cannot past a simple lab test at work, then it is not going to be used. I do not care what a research labs will say about a product-even if it is Consumer Reports. But again, speaking from a personal experience, MSE is not that good. The only antivirus that we found to be good was Kaspersky. Although sometimes you will get false positives with it.
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Anyone can develop a lab test that gets any or all AV apps to fail. Anyone can run a simple test to show one AV app as under-whelming compared to another. The problem is, that is extremely closed-minded, and short-sighted thinking, and a good IT department wouldn't fall into that trap.

The reason why the research labs and security pros hold more weight is because of the myriad of tests that they subject each app to.

I could find an example of a Subaru that qualifies as a lemon. Does that make all Subaru's lemons? Nope, because when the product line is subjected to the wide-range of industry standard tests, the proof is, it's one of the most reliably brands you can buy. One persons tests or experiences don't make for fact. In your example, you recommend Kapersky...a brand that's notorious for causing issues to otherwise stable systems. I could give you my personal opinions on it, but I'm smart enough to know that is pretty much meaningless.
 
number of viruses are not really related to platforms but to market share. kind of the whole immunization against a real virus. you don't have to immunize everyone, just enough people so that it becomes impossible for the virus to effectively spread.
 
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