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Monster Dual Opteron Advice Needed

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fibersnet

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Hello I need to build up a monster dual opteron server.

Here is what is REQUIRED:

15K RPM SCSI 72GB U320 Hard Drive
4GB RAM

Here is what I want to get so far:

2x Opteron 242 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-389&depa=0

Tyan Thunder K8W S2885
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-151-120&depa=0

8 x 512 MB ECC Registered DDR 3200
Good site?

SeaGate 73GB 15,000RPM SCSI Hard Drive http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-111-139&depa=1

Antec 550W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-918&depa=1

I am going to need an SCSI controller. Should I get a motherboard with onboard SCSI or should I buy a PCI one. If so, which one should I buy?

This is for a databasing server.

I have seen benchmarks and read reviews stating that the opertons are better at databasing than Xeons so that is why I chose the opterons. The 64-bit makes it a big plus.

It will be running Linux kernel 2.6

Do you guys see any conflicts?

Any ways to lower the price tag?

Any suggestions?

Thanks guys!
 
You going to be running a UT2K4 server on that beast? I certainly hope you will!

*edit: nm didn't notice that you said it was a database server.
 
Originally posted by Asian Fury
something with onboard that won't run over the pci bus if possible
Click to expand...
It will still use the PCI bus unless a) it's integrated into the southbridge, which no SCSI solutions are, or b) it uses a HyperTransport interconnect, which it doesn't either. So he will have to use the "PCI bus." This is no problem if he goes with a PCI-X compatible SCSI controller card--there is plenty of bandwidth available.
 
Hi, this is my "final" setup.

This server will be used for a database with a large amount of small entries.

CPU: 2 x Opteron 244
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_...asterid=783373&isbn=&pid=&ut=185a7e32ad42cdef

Motherboard: Tyan S2882
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_...sterid=1358526&isbn=&pid=&ut=185a7e32ad42cdef

Ram: 2 x 2GB Kit Kingston DDR 400Mhz ECC REGISTERED
http://www.komusa.com/komusa/2gbkit1pc40d.html

Case: Enlight EN-8950 ATX Tower
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_...574/search=Enlight%208950/ut=185a7e32ad42cdef

PSU: Antec 550W True Power Supply for Dual Xeon Boardhttp://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=605469/search=EPS12V/ut=185a7e32ad42cdef

Hard Drives: 36.4GB Fujitsu MAS3367NC, 15K, Ultra 320, 8MB. (OEM)
http://www.upgrade-solution.com/productlist.cfm?Subcategory=S.C.S.I. HARD DRIVES

Generic Floppy
Generic CDROm

Thanks guys I took into account all of your suggestions and this is my setup. I plan to use the onboard Adaptec AIC-7902W Ultra 320 SCSI controller and have OS setup on one hard drive and probably the database on the second with backups made on the third.

I want to make sure that everything is compatible. The PSU is EPS12V so it should have both the 24pin and 8pin connects for the motherboard.

If you know of any places with lower prices, please tell me!

Thanks guys!
 
Crucial Technology for the RAM ;)

and swap the K8W for the K8S (S2880UGNR) w\ onboard dual channel SCSI
and dual Gigabit LAN

and consider a PC Power and Cooling 510 PSU

thats the server board, the K8W is the Workstation\
(I have it)

try Monarch Computer
Tyan S2880UGNR (Thunder K8S) AMD-8000 Opteron DDR ECC 333 SCSI/LAN/SATA RAID $482 w\ shipping
 
Yes, use Crucial for the RAM. Do you have a backup solution for this server?
 
Originally posted by Vertigo Acid
Why 8 sticks of RAM? It would seem more efficient to use 4 sticks of a gig each
Click to expand...

Price, perhaps? 512meg modules are usually less than half as expensive as 1gig modules.
 
Crucial Ram is another $400 dollars :/

The 2882 features an Adaptec SCSI controller which I prefer over an LSI controller.

I am also unclear if the LSI controller can do Raid which I am sure the Adaptec one can.

If I can find Crucial Ram for a reasonable price I will go for it.

Thanks!
 
the reason to go with Crucial is the stability and service
the warranty makes a big difference, especially when your dropping that much $$$$

Im running 4xIGB PC2700 CT12872Y335 in a Tyan K8W

ask anyone regarding the service ;)


you didnt mention SCSI RAID in the initial post, tsk tsk tsk
strange most people perfer LSI over Adaptec :p

the LSI® 53C1030 U320 SCSI controller
supports Zero Channel RAID
K8S S2880

just like the Adaptec
K8S Pro S2882

but neither "have" it onboard, youd need to buy a Card for the Green PCI slot on the Pro, or run it on Bus A in the standard K8S

but personally Id pony up the extra money for a fully independent PCI-X RAID card that could be migrated to any other PCI-X board, not just ZCR

http://www.lsilogic.com/products/ultra320_scsi_raid/index.html


the K8S Pro gives you an extra LAN port., and you get 4 PCI-X 64bit 133\100MHz slots instead of just 2 and 2 more PCI-X 64bit 66MHz slots, but would you use them? (besides if Im not mistaken you can only use the greenslot in the Pro for Zero Channel RAID)

BTW the SATA RAID on both is controlled on the 32bit 33MHz legacy bus
same as the K8W leaving something to be desired depending on the throughput needed, the straight K8S employs the Promise PDC20378 with only 2 ports as opposed to the SI Sil3114 with 4 ports on the Pro (and the K8W)

Id highly recommend you download the manuals and read them
then price out a few options (like Gigabit LAN Cards, RAID cards ect) and do some serious comparitive feature to price \ cost to benefit ratio analysis before purchasing ;)
there is alot to be said for the ability to migrate components, especially when the integrated versions cost so much
 
This computer will be only for databasing and will need to store/retrieve data extremely fast. It is also mission critical and can not be shut down to replace a hard drive.

I am thinking of going all out and getting hardware raid, specifically the Adaptec SCSI Raid 2200S

http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/pr...2fUltra320+RAID

http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?threadid=49815

I am going to use Raid 5 for the database. Since the OS will really not be in use, I might just put the OS on that as well.

I hope everything will be hot swappable so that I can remove hard failing hard drives at will and replace them on the fly and have the raid controller rebuild the array automatically with no downtime.

The system will be running Suse to take advantage of 64bit running on 2x Opteron 244's.
The database is mysql.

Thanks!
 
Hello guys, thanks for all your help so far.
This is now the final setup for the system unless there are incompatibilities which if there are, PLEASE tell me.

This server will funtion as a database server will that will store and select many chunks of small data at very high speeds. The hard drives will be in a raid 5 configuration with both the OS and the database being on the array. The OS will not be used too much but it will be on a redundant array along with the database.

The server needs to have hot swappable drives so I am going to buy the SCSI chasis with SAF-TE
The Adaptec controller also has support for SAF-TE

The PSU is a redundant one because shutting down/rebooting this machine will be avoided at all costs. It is a mission critical server.

The OS will be SUSE 64-bit running mysql 64bit binaries.

I would be very gratful if you guys please review over the components and give me the OK to buy?
I will make sure to get good PC 3200 ECC REGISTERED RAM but if you guys have any good links, please link me ;)

When I assemble this PC I will be sure to post PICS on this forum.
Thank you!



Chasis: Enlight EN-8950 ATX Tower

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_...ch=Enlight%20EN%208950%20/ut=185a7e32ad42cdef



CPU: 2x AMD Opteron 244 Processor

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_...asterid=783373&isbn=&pid=&ut=185a7e32ad42cdef



Power Supply: Zippy MRW-6400P 400W EPS12V Redundant Power Supply

http://www.stayonline.com/redundant_power_supplies/8908.asp



Motherboard: TYAN 8131 K8 DP PGA940 MAX-16GB DDR 4PCI-X VGA 2BGE 3LAN SATA-R EATX

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=1358527/search=S2882/ut=185a7e32ad42cdef




Hard Drive: 4x Fujitsu MAS3367NC Series 36.7 GB
http://fujitsu.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=700989/ut=185a7e32ad42cdef



Hard Drive Chasis
Supermicro 5 Bay SCSI HDD Enclosure
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=690013/search=CSE-M35S/ut=185a7e32ad42cdef



Controller: Adaptec SCSI RAID 2120 Kit 64 bit/66MHz Ultra 320 RAID
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=610367/found=1/ut=185a7e32ad42cdef



CDROM:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-120-501&depa=0



Floppy:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=21-103-202&depa=0

RAM: Will find 4GB of ECC REGISTERED
 
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