Monitors that are comparable to u2410?

C

CypherNinja

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Sep 28, 2002
Messages
1,732
I'm finally getting rid of my CRT! :D

Since my monitor is biting the dust ([H] currently has a yellow background ;) ), I'm looking at new LCDs. I'm set on a 23-24" 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 (1200 prefered), and the Dell's combination of colors and plenty-good-enough response appeals to me. I'm trying to snag a deal on a u2410, but this monitor is dying fast and the tint issues have me worried.

What other monitors out there compete well with the u2410? I've looked at the Apple display, and it compares well on Digital Versus, but the miniDP input may be a problem (GTX 260 = no DP). Are there any other good options?
 
There is also the HP ZR24W, but I don't know much about it other than it's cheaper than the U2410.
 
CypherNinja said:
I'm finally getting rid of my CRT! :D

Since my monitor is biting the dust ([H] currently has a yellow background ;) ), I'm looking at new LCDs. I'm set on a 23-24" 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 (1200 prefered), and the Dell's combination of colors and plenty-good-enough response appeals to me. I'm trying to snag a deal on a u2410, but this monitor is dying fast and the tint issues have me worried.

What other monitors out there compete well with the u2410? I've looked at the Apple display, and it compares well on Digital Versus, but the miniDP input may be a problem (GTX 260 = no DP). Are there any other good options?
Click to expand...

NEC PA241W is better
 
Thanks for the suggestions guys. After reading review sites:

The NEC EA231WMi and the HP ZR24W seem to be edged out by the Dells. The NEC PA241W, however, most certainly has superior image quality, but doesn't have the response I'd like (it's definitely better for photo editing and the like).

It seems the U2311H is an excellent alternative, so I'll add it to "Da List" for sure.
 
Last edited:
CypherNinja said:
Thanks for the suggestions guys. After reading review sites:

The NEC EA231WMi and the HP ZR24W seem to be edged out by the Dells. The NEC PA241W, however, most certainly has superior image quality, but doesn't have the response I'd like (it's definitely better for photo editing and the like).

It seems the U2311H is an excellent alternative, so I'll add it to "Da List" for sure.
Click to expand...

whether it would be good enough for someone coming from a CRT I don't know but the NEC PA241W certainly has a lot less lag than my Samsung HDTV (of course that HDTV has pretty poor lag so it's not tough to beat).
 
Ah yes, I guess maybe I didn't make it clear enough. What I want is a monitor with good color (since I'm coming from a CRT) good contrast (as much as possible within reason; again CRT), and response good enough for anything but "twitch" games (Unreal, CS, etc).

Looking around the best bet for me seemed to be the u2410, which is why I started this thread. The u2311h seems good as well, but the x1080 bugs me. Guess I could live with it, though.

Also, upon further review, the ZR24W does actually seem to be OK. TFTcentral's updated review seems to say that the blacks/contrast are better than what I'd initially read.



I guess the question I really should have asked is: What is the best "NOT TN" panel for gaming and movies? (aaaaahhh hindsight, my old friend)
 
CypherNinja said:
Ah yes, I guess maybe I didn't make it clear enough. What I want is a monitor with good color (since I'm coming from a CRT) good contrast (as much as possible within reason; again CRT), and response good enough for anything but "twitch" games (Unreal, CS, etc).

Looking around the best bet for me seemed to be the u2410, which is why I started this thread. The u2311h seems good as well, but the x1080 bugs me. Guess I could live with it, though.

Also, upon further review, the ZR24W does actually seem to be OK. TFTcentral's updated review seems to say that the blacks/contrast are better than what I'd initially read.



I guess the question I really should have asked is: What is the best "NOT TN" panel for gaming and movies? (aaaaahhh hindsight, my old friend)
Click to expand...

The awnser is still the Dell U2311H. All of the other IPS panels mentioned in here will give you washed out blacks in films when compared to the Dell, it is also the fastest.....

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2311h.htm
 
CypherNinja said:
I guess the question I really should have asked is: What is the best "NOT TN" panel for gaming and movies? (aaaaahhh hindsight, my old friend)
Click to expand...

The answer is: it is complex. :D

The monitor with the best theoretical mixture of contrast and colour accuracy is the EV2333W, however, it is a PVA panel with gamma shift and trailing on dark transitions.

When it comes to IPS within the typical budget, you can choose between the higher resolution of the 24" models, or the edge on contrast with the models containing the 23" and 21.5" panels.
 
NCX said:
The awnser is still the Dell U2311H. All of the other IPS panels mentioned in here will give you washed out blacks in films when compared to the Dell, it is also the fastest.....

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2311h.htm
Click to expand...

The U2311H also has tinting and uniformity issues. One side will have a blueish tint and the other a pinkish tint. Furthermore washed out blacks is a relative term. The blacks on the U2311H are good but any PVA panel will blow them away. I originally purchased the U2311H. It was good but I returned it and I now have a ZR24W on the way. I probably won't notice the lower black levels but I'll definitely notice the increase in size/ratio.
 
Sigh...I can't stand all these 16:9 monitors. But that's what everyone is making.

On a side note, I'm not 100% down with all display lingo. How do I read the chart above? Does green = good red = bad? Lower = better?

I can get a few things but when you quantify things in numbers like "0.2" I can't really tell if you're going off a scale out of 10, a real unit of measurement for that row, or just a comparison to something else.
 
Wazooty said:
Sigh...I can't stand all these 16:9 monitors. But that's what everyone is making.

On a side note, I'm not 100% down with all display lingo. How do I read the chart above? Does green = good red = bad? Lower = better?

I can get a few things but when you quantify things in numbers like "0.2" I can't really tell if you're going off a scale out of 10, a real unit of measurement for that row, or just a comparison to something else.
Click to expand...

green=good, yellow=mediocre, red=bad

The fields that are either 1, 2, 3, or 4 are a rank. The monitor with a 1 is the best, a 2 second best, etc..

The other fields are the actual measurements (with the unit in parenthesis). For example, the U2410 scores a 0.2 for dE in color accuracy calibrated. The lower the dE is, the more accurate the colors are.
 
kllrnohj said:
green=good, yellow=mediocre, red=bad

The fields that are either 1, 2, 3, or 4 are a rank. The monitor with a 1 is the best, a 2 second best, etc..

The other fields are the actual measurements (with the unit in parenthesis). For example, the U2410 scores a 0.2 for dE in color accuracy calibrated. The lower the dE is, the more accurate the colors are.
Click to expand...

keep in mind that TFT used a probe and software combo not capable of measuring colors or white balance properly in wide gamut monitors so their color/WB data on the wide gamuts is mostly junk. The contrast and black levels data should be reasonably ok on the wide gamuts though.

also keep in mind that for movies and games you will never use wide gamut so it's maybe a bit of a waste and it's important that the monitor has a good sRGB simulation mode (the Dell U2711 and U2410 are ok and the newest Eizo and NEC are superb, the new NEC actually has a better sRGB than an sRGB monitor :D but that is a lot to spend just to get back to sRGB!)

for the deepest blacks the IPS just are not as good as the PVA
 
There is no doubt that the PA241W is better than the U2410, but the price is also 2x better.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top