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Monitor sharpness setting

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allen200

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My new Acer monitor (B7 24") has very limited OSD sharpness settings. It just has off and on, and nothing else. I need more levels to choose from, like something in the middle. Radeon settings don't help. Are there any 3rd-party apps, callibration software, or driver editing techniques that could give me more options? I know this is just digital edge enhancements, but that's what I'm looking for.
 
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allen200 said:
My new Acer monitor (B7 24") has very limited OSD sharpness settings. It just has off and on, and nothing else. I need more levels to choose from, like something in the middle. Radeon settings don't help. Are there any 3rd-party apps, callibration software, or driver editing techniques that could give me more options? I know this is just digital edge enhancements, but that's what I'm looking for.
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You can use Reshade in games.
 
Thanks for reply, but I'm not looking for game improvement. I use low quality in games any way. I'm referring to overall display improvement. My old HP has 7 sharpness levels to choose from, and by comparison, the new monitor's on setting is several levels higher than the highest setting. Unusable. It feels like there should be an easy fix somewhere. I just can't find it.
 
allen200 said:
Thanks for reply, but I'm not looking for game improvement. I use low quality in games any way. I'm referring to overall display improvement. My old HP has 7 sharpness levels to choose from, and by comparison, the new monitor's on setting is several levels higher than the highest setting. Unusable. It feels like there should be an easy fix somewhere. I just can't find it.
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The easiest fix is a new monitor with the choices you’d like.
 
allen200 said:
Thanks for reply, but I'm not looking for game improvement. I use low quality in games any way. I'm referring to overall display improvement. My old HP has 7 sharpness levels to choose from, and by comparison, the new monitor's on setting is several levels higher than the highest setting. Unusable. It feels like there should be an easy fix somewhere. I just can't find it.
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If you are using the native display resolution then no sharpening should be required or desirable IMO. If you still want the option you need a different monitor afaik.
 
Yeah I'm always on native. And yeah I'm starting to feel that not many even use this sharpening setting. Maybe it's just my eyes, but the difference between it being off, or using a little is like night and day. Anyways, seems I'll be returning this monitor.
 
kasakka said:
If you are using the native display resolution then no sharpening should be required or desirable IMO. If you still want the option you need a different monitor afaik.
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Agreed. IMO if there is a sharpness setting it should be disabled at native resolution. Native resolution should NOT be soft, and turning up sharpening will bring on halos.
 
Sharpness setting is just another tool. You don't have to go overboard on it, just a few percent +/- can make a big difference. It's a shame that a lot of computer monitors omit it. I have a few 43" TVs-as-monitors on my desk and they both have a sharpness setting in their OSD. My 1440p 32" 32gk850G lacks a sharpness control and could really benefit from one as it's text is a little jumbo and fuzzy edged.

Someone mentioned reshade above. I use nvidia freestyle which is an ez mode reshade using an overlay of simple sliders for things like contrast, gamma, saturation, and a bunch of other things including a sharpness filter. Some games benefit from a little sharpness + , and some indie and pixel games might even benefit from lowering the sharpness if you enjoy the resulting look. Freestyle remembers your settings per game (and you can even change them on the fly or with presets for different parts of a game if you want to for darker areas, brighter areas). I usually just tweat a particular game to my liking then leave it alone. Nvidia freestyle is part of the nvidia experience suite and was written with the help of the author of reshade. Unfortunately the filters only work on directx in games and do not apply to everything else on the windows desktop. Not every single game in existence is supported but there are a lot that are. If you still need some filters in other games or you are running an amd gpu, you can always use reshade. Freestyle is just a lot easier and more convenient.
 
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elvn said:
Sharpness setting is just another tool. You don't have to go overboard on it, just a few percent +/- can make a big difference. It's a shame that a lot of computer monitors omit it. I have a few 43" TVs-as-monitors on my desk and they both have a sharpness setting in their OSD. My 1440p 32" 32gk850G lacks a sharpness control and could really benefit from one as it's text is a little jumbo and fuzzy edged.
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Sharpness started getting removed from monitors along with analog connections. It was there with analog connections to compensate for the blur of the analog connection.

If you have a digital source and digital connection, you already have perfect sharpness. Text being digital sourced and delivered would already have perfectly sharp edge transitions, that sharpness functions are trying to get compensate with blurry sources. The exception being sub pixel rendering that attempts to improve font smoothness. The solution to this is not sharpness, but something like Cleartype Tuning to adjust the sub pixel rendering.

Again since digital sources, and digital connections have perfect replication, sharpening in the monitor makes no sense. Blurry movies might need sharpening but games do not. You sharpen the blurry sources, not everything to add artifacts to everything.
 
Well it seems to help tune the text on my 43" monitors a bit though I actually do turn it DOWN from default not up. In games like grim dawn, adding a bit of sharpness filter in freestyle has a pleasing result on my large pixeled 1440p 32" monitor. In some pixel style games I actually like to lower the sharpness filter in freestyle to below normal like an anti-aliasing look..
 
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Well it seems to help tune the text on my 43" monitors a bit though I actually do turn it DOWN from default not up. In games like grim dawn, adding a bit of sharpness filter in freestyle has a pleasing result on my large pixeled 1440p 32" monitor too. In some pixel style games I actually like to lower the sharpness like an anti-aliasing look..
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Again it changes with every different program you run, which is why it makes sense to make those individual tuning adjustments in each game with something like NVidia Freestyle, rather than global monitor setting. Additional benefit is you can use content aware sharpening algorithms rather than just dumb global sharpen.
 
"Apparently, it is to serve people who like a bit of fuzziness or added contrast in fine details such as those in small fonts"

"LCD monitors often have a "sharpness" control, which can emphasize or deemphasize boundaries between light and dark areas. Ideally, it does neither, unless you like a bit of fuzziness or like small letters to have more contrast."

--- so it can help with the bad ppi on my 32" 1440 in games and would have been welcomed if on the desktop (freestyle doesn't work on the desktop and the 32" LG has no sharpness control in it's OSD) - but it's a personal preference. Having another tool in the toolbox for a very slight +/- 1, 2, 3 adjustments isn't a bad thing.
 
Just checked both of my tvs... Ever since I recently flipped my BGR format samung upside down on a monitor arm to be rgb , it looks like I turned the sharpness setting to zero. For screens with text issues like BGR or my 1440p 32" LG's pixel sizes, a sharpness control would be nice to mess with..

From the tft central 32gk850g tftcentral review:
The text is ever slightly blurred we felt, although there's no sharpness control in the OSD to adjust this. It's very minimal, and just looks slightly softer than we are used to from say a 27" 1440p screen. This sometimes resulted in focusing problems with text.
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The HP Omen X27 I just bought has many levels of sharpness adjustments within it's OSD :)
 
I was curious about this as well. There is a sharpness setting on the LG 31mu97. But it also has significantly more settings than any other monitor I've had before it with a hue and saturation control for every color. Color Temp. And luminocity adjustments.
Default for sharpness is 5/10. I tried putting it to zero, but at that point text becomes blurry. Maxed it looks like over-sharpened shimmer. I basically just left it back at 5 and stopped fooling with it.
 
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