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Mod Xbox 360

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Doing searches on Google for this and all I get is nothing, or some inner mod for the heat sink. All fine, but I want to know if anyone has taken a 360, and transfered it to a different case of some sort. Is it even possible? I know you break the warranty, but if I try this I care not about warranty.

So has it been done?
Does removing the innards to a different case help with RRoD or anything?
Any other thoughts about this?

I know this is talking about modding, but I figured this would be a good place to talk about the 360 since this is the console forum.

Edit: I have done some Googleing and other searches but all I have come upon is something which is not discussed on this forum.
Any input about taking apart or the parts of a 360 would be great to know. I have yet to purchase one, but if I do I would like to know how easy it might be to mod mod.

Thanks.
 
Sorry about the quick thread deletion, misunderstood the nature of the thread. (I jump on "modding" threads pretty quickly in here.)

Yes, you can buy third party cases. It doesn't help with the RRoD though.
E.g. http://www.driverheaven.net/gamingreviews/black knight case 360/index.php

The RRoD is caused by the X-clamp design. The only way to prevent the RRoD is to replace that clamp with something that doesn't cause motherboard flexing.
 
Recently, some guys put a kit together for $15 that gives you all the hardware necessary to do the mod yourself. They did leave out the step on adding different thermal compound; so I would also recommend adding some arctic silver. I believe I saw the site on maxconsole.. if you can't find it, i'm sure its in my bookmarks and I can find it later tonite.
 
Thanks Allos, that is perfect.
Now I just need to find some time away from school and work and transferring schools, and the GF and go buy a 360 and mod it. :D
 
MasterShredder said:
Recently, some guys put a kit together for $15 that gives you all the hardware necessary to do the mod yourself. They did leave out the step on adding different thermal compound; so I would also recommend adding some arctic silver. I believe I saw the site on maxconsole.. if you can't find it, i'm sure its in my bookmarks and I can find it later tonite.
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I will take a look there and see what I can find out.
 
John said:
The reason you purposely overheat the system is to rejoin the broken connections between the GPU and the motherboard. If you don't do it, your system will still red ring.
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I'm pretty sure that's BS. It takes a LOT of heat to start to melt lead-free solder. I think they suggest overheating the board and cooling it down so if your board initially warped, it would possibly keep it flat and "hold it" after the clamp upgrade. If you were to overheat that board hot enough to reflow solder, components would be permanently damaged. You're talking 600-800 degrees F!
 
MasterShredder said:
I'm pretty sure that's BS. It takes a LOT of heat to start to melt lead-free solder. I think they suggest overheating the board and cooling it down so if your board initially warped, it would possibly keep it flat and "hold it" after the clamp upgrade. If you were to overheat that board hot enough to reflow solder, components would be permanently damaged. You're talking 600-800 degrees F!
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1. We know that the most common cause of the RRoD is when soldered connections between the GPU and motherboard break.
2. We know that this method fixes those broken connections.

Does it completely melt the solder connections? I doubt it. Does it melt the connections enough so that they rejoin when additional pressure is applied? Yep. 12 fixed 360s and counting...
 
John said:
1. We know that the most common cause of the RRoD is when soldered connections between the GPU and motherboard break.
2. We know that this method fixes those broken connections.

Does it completely melt the solder connections? I doubt it. Does it melt the connections enough so that they rejoin when additional pressure is applied? Yep. 12 fixed 360s and counting...
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I thought the reason of the RRoD was the board warping and the GPU's BGA connections got separated from the board; and this mod just re-aligns the motherboard so it's straight and can't warp while constant pressure is applied to the GPU. Maybe i'm wrong.
 
MasterShredder said:
I thought the reason of the RRoD was the board warping and the GPU's BGA connections got separated from the board; and this mod just re-aligns the motherboard so it's straight and can't warp while constant pressure is applied to the GPU. Maybe i'm wrong.
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When you've just described is exactly the same as what I've said in my previous posts.

"We know that the most common cause of the RRoD is when soldered connections between the GPU and motherboard break." == "I thought the reason of the RRoD was the board warping and the GPU's BGA connections got separated from the board"

"The only way to prevent the RRoD is to replace that clamp with something that doesn't cause motherboard flexing." == "and this mod just re-aligns the motherboard so it's straight and can't warp while constant pressure is applied to the GPU."

Yes, the RRoD is caused by the BGA connections breaking. And yes, these connections break because of motherboard flexing. The solution is to replace the clamp with something that causes less motherboard flexing. However, BGA connections are soldered - pushing the array onto the motherboard with less pressure (as you're suggesting in your first post) isn't going to fix these connections, there's a reason they're soldered. And while you argue that running the system without fans isn't enough to melt these connections together, all evidence suggests otherwise.
 
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