miniITX GOD Box.... Blasphemy!

Discussion in 'Cases & Case Modding' started by Venturi, Feb 13, 2019.

  1. Venturi

    Venturi Limp Gawd

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    Asus c621e sage
    2x Xeon 8180M
    384
    GB of ram
    4x Titan V including Titan V CEO ed 32GB
    960pro nvme (OS)
    10x SSD Raid (Apps and Backup 8x 2x)
    1600W PSU (digital) noiseless
    MS 2016 Data Center, Ubuntu
    P1 miniITX case

    ..and the customary pint of blood and pound of flesh

    8857 on first cinebench test

    cool running temps, and silent pc,
    and put it ALL in a miniITX case!

    please enjoy some augmented reality porn:

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    here is my R20 cinebench, is 18708 agood score?
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  2. Gold Leader

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    A lovely build there Venturi :)
    I'm glad you were able to find something new build together :)

    Keep this post updated as well tho, always wondering how this system would do with BarsWF CUDA x64 hah xD
    Ya know my thread at 2CPU.com right :)
     
  3. The Mad Atheist

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    Nice!
    Slap some heat spreaders(if they still sell those) on those naked green RAM sticks boy!
     
  4. DogsofJune

    DogsofJune 2[H]4U

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    It needs water, but it looks like a pretty tolerable setup.
     
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  5. pitingres

    pitingres [H]Lite

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    What caught my eye was the extremely desirable lack of water! what are those coolers?
     
  6. BlueLineSwinger

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    Whatever they are they look like they'll be starved for air, sitting right up against that first GPU.
     
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  8. Venturi

    Venturi Limp Gawd

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    DBC382CC-C0C7-47C0-B93A-4AB81464E1A6.jpeg They run cool

    Here is a temp readout from aida64
     
  9. BlueLineSwinger

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    But what about when the CPUs and/or that first GPU are actually being exercised, and not just idling?
     
  10. deaedius

    deaedius Gawd

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    What is this beast being used for? Have you weighed it? inserted "can it play Crysis?"
    I'm guessing modeling or simulations?
     
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  12. Venturi

    Venturi Limp Gawd

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    GPUs get as high as 77'C under heavy load, no thermal throttling, and that is even under games , not when used for deep learning

    CPU's get as high as 40'C under heaviest load, again that's not even near any issues.


    This is not accidental, I put a lot of thought into the cooling. This is my third build refinement.


    It is a cool quiet happy machine
     
  13. Emission

    Emission [H]ardness Supreme

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    Yep, looks like the fans have plenty of area to pull air in from. Nice build!
     
  14. Venturi

    Venturi Limp Gawd

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    Cinebench R20 score

    18708


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  15. Venturi

    Venturi Limp Gawd

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    Happy to report that Ray Tracing is alive and well in Metro Exodus with my Titan Vs

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  16. mosin40

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    That's amazing!
    What do you do with so many cores and some many Titan Vs?
     
  17. Venturi

    Venturi Limp Gawd

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    ...anything I want

    ;)


    schoolwork, email, games, dissertation, games, spreadsheets, games, deep learning algorithms, games, isotopes, nuc med. radiology, games, DB management, PACS, and some gaming
     
  18. nofearek9

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    how easy is to overclock those cpus?
    what is the price of each cpu ?
     
  19. Shadow_Foxx

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    Wait a minute, so youre saying this rig is powerful enough to use for email? ;)

    I love the insanity of this build, good work!
     
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    Stunning! Oddly my favorite part is the SSDs all lined up in the back.
     
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  21. Venturi

    Venturi Limp Gawd

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    They overclock ok about 5%, I have not tried higher, and other than just curiosity, I don't overclock

    The retail on the 8180M is $13806 each. I did not pay that - far from it.
     
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    Venturi Limp Gawd

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    ...but I have a LOT of email.

    ;)
     
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    Now that I think about it, this may just be the justification I need to move forward with some build upgrades ;)
     
  24. nofearek9

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    so without wininig the lottery will be very dificults to build this machine ,even with just one VGA.
    those cpu need 4ghz at least :)
     
  25. Venturi

    Venturi Limp Gawd

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    I have been tracking this, and looking at how it actually works, I'm not impressed. I'm not just talking about the 400W TDP, but the fact that each core has a drop in efficiency - yes, in cloud and server it makes sense. However, just looking at the 64/128 Amd product. - I'm already familiar with what "chiplets" really means. Remember bulldozer?

    So, I shall patiently see where real perforce is.

    also, the intel new 56 core chip is two 28 core chips on one bga hardwired to the motherboard, it is not a cpu that you can pick up or remove as some may think.
     
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  26. Venturi

    Venturi Limp Gawd

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    and I already have 56 / 112 cores on a workstation....
     
  27. nofearek9

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    your setup,has lot of year till an upgraded will be needed .
     
  28. nofearek9

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    btw about cooling ,noctua NH-U14S DX-3647 is better option for your setup or you haven't tryed it?
     
  29. Venturi

    Venturi Limp Gawd

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    It will not fit. But thank you for the suggestion.

    it wont fit if I want to have 4 titan Vs. The cooler protrudes over the first 2 pcie slots.

    The d12 will not fit either, protrudes over first pcie slot.

    so far only the supermicro cooler and the noctua 9 fit.

    I have all 4 and tried them, I found that the one I'm using is keeping my cpu temps at 79'F on normal and under load the temps don't get higher (EVER) than 112'F maxed out.

    In fact my air cooling is better than many folk's water cooling for that particular cpu.


    I tried to get the d12 noctua to work and reengineer it and shave finsd etc. Looking messy, I was able to get it installed. Cooling capacity was with 1'C of the noctua D9 so I stuck with the D9



    Again, thank you

    It is a limited market of compatible coolers for a cpu that has a TDP of 205W, and I have 2x of those 205w cpus on one board with 4 Titan V's and 384GB of ram - hence why the open case design ;)
     
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  30. jeffj7

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    not a intel/nvidia fan but gotta give ya credit for the slap ya around and take no prisoners build :)
     
  31. Venturi

    Venturi Limp Gawd

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    after your post I decided to whip out some outside of the box thinking:

    I wanted to use the noctua NH-D9 DX-3647 with larger radiator and 120mm fans instead of the 92mm fan noctua units I had.


    The NH-D9 DX-3647 extends 1.7cm into thew area occupied by the first video card (I use 4 video cards so I need all slots) There are TWO sockets on this mother board (dual cpu) so it requires two NH-D9 DX-3647, that extend 1.7cm into the space occupied by the first titan V.


    After extensive work in augmented reality I was able to do this:

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    ...now, if only noctua fans were not so ugly...

    and remember the whole case is only 16 in x 15 in... (417mm x 372mm)
     
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  32. Venturi

    Venturi Limp Gawd

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    Ram fan conundrum:


    A. I like silent and those fans sound like turbines

    B. They won’t fit due to proximity of video card slot, I tried a few


    I did buy pure copper heatspreaders and 10 packs of the pad minus 8 thermal grizzly.


    I don’t like using the included two sided tape because if you reseat it or try to take it off Theresa good chance you’ll just rip chips right off the ram pcb.


    And, the tape is not very thermally conductive.


    The minus 8 Pad 1mm and very heat conductive and electrically inert. And isn’t sticky.


    At 1mm it’s two thick tours on the heat spreaders, so i’m going to run it through a lasagna press and squish it down to .5mm (and doubling the area it would cover. Then it should be a solution.


    LRDIMM best heat spreader design I can come up with :



    So here is the process I went through to use pure copper heatsinks, no adhesive, and thermal ceramic clay.


    6 of these ceramic clay and wax paper:

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    lasagna press to reduce 1 mm TIM to .5 mm and gain area.

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    assembly line
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    in place:

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    Dimm Temps

    medium low use / idle temps / checking mail / being on this forum temps:

    about 42 C average across 12 LRDIMMs

    and this concludes the experiment. some observations:


    under load the LRDIMMS still get warm / hot but 13C less than before.


    after a workout, the dimm temps stay higher longer due to the amount of mass / heat retention added by the ceramic clay and the copper sandwich.

    seems to be an improvement overall.
     
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