Microsoft Unveils First Look At Windows 10

Azhar said:
I didn't have my coffee yet and wasn't thinking about XP. Bite me :-P
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Well how am I supposed to know you didn't have coffee yet? Seriously, you should include that as an FYI at the end of your posts. Like add a status indicator thing with a bunch of different mental conditions like "had coffee" or "asleep at keyboard" or something.
 
Version numbers need to end. Call it Windows 2014 or 2015 and move on. If it's a mid-line release then 2015.5 or something.
 
Can you install it to a USB drive (i.e. Live distro), or is it hard disk only?

It's a bit of a pain to cleanup after you install multiple copies of Windows to the same computer, and I'm feeling pretty lazy :D
 
defaultluser said:
Can you install it to a USB drive (i.e. Live distro), or is it hard disk only?

It's a bit of a pain to cleanup after you install multiple copies of Windows to the same computer, and I'm feeling pretty lazy :D
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You should be able to install it to any bootable device.
 
chockomonkey said:
I just see it as them finally adding some long overdue features to cmdprompt.
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Long overdue features?
Two years ago, people were arguing with me about how shit *NIX CLI is compared to Windows/Powershell, even though the opposite is true.

Now they are adding "features"?
If it was so good to begin with, why are they adding them now?


This is on par with Apple telling the world how superior PowerPC is to x86, and then in 2006, jump ship to x86 and tell the world how inferior PowerPC is and how people need to get with it.
These companies, and their fanbois, can go fuck themselves.

It is what it is, and in the end, to the individual end-user: use what works, have some common sense, learn to read between the lines, and don't buy every piece of corporate/marketing PR spewed out by these awful mega-corps.
 
fdiaz78 said:
Ultimately the CEO finally listened and the hipster with teenager long haircuts that created the Windows 8 UI and thought it was a great idea will have very little input into Windows 10 this time around.
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Hipster with long hair? The clown that led the Metro and Windows 8 charge was a bald guy that ignored customer feedback during the developer preview because he believed he was the next Steve Jobs visionary deity. Him and his botox freakshow sidekick Julie Larson-Green were the two most responsible for losing Microsoft the last three or four years of the Windows cycle in not just squandered potential revenue but diminished mindshare, that the other more profitable divisions don't simply erase.

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Red Falcon said:
This is on par with Apple telling the world how superior PowerPC is to x86, and then in 2006, jump ship to x86 and tell the world how inferior PowerPC is and how people need to get with it.
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I remember watching like the ads where Apple was like, "Oh, the new Intel processor is twice as fast as the old PowerPC," and thinking, "Um...how come you were like just saying that Apple computers with PowerPC processors were so much faster than everything else that was using Intel CPUs?" OMG, stupid stuff like that makes me want a laser cat so I can zap all the dumb.

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DPI said:
Hipster with long hair? The clown that led the Metro and Windows 8 charge was a bald guy that ignored customer feedback during the developer preview because he believed he was the next Steve Jobs visionary deity. Him and his botox freakshow sidekick Julie Larson-Green were the two most responsible for losing Microsoft the last three or four years of the Windows cycle in not just squandered potential revenue but diminished mindshare, that the other more profitable divisions don't simply erase.
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It's only a matter of time before any successful corporation falls victim to its own success. Customer feedback was ignored on Win 8 only because of MS's essential monopoly on the world's desktops. When you control 90% of a market and have successfully hoodwinked a world into paying per machine for a generic OS, rebuying your software every few years to get the SAME BASIC FUNCTIONALITY, along with their activation/copy protection abominations -- with a FUCKING 90% MARKET SHARE -- and on and on.. I'll repeat it one last time: future historians are going to look back at the current era and simply shake their heads in utter disbelief and disgust. With a 90% market share, no other description for MS's policies is possible except abject extortion.
 
JeffDC said:
It's only a matter of time before any successful corporation falls victim to its own success. Customer feedback was ignored on Win 8 only because of MS's essential monopoly on the world's desktops. When you control 90% of a market and have successfully hoodwinked a world into paying per machine for a generic OS, rebuying your software every few years to get the SAME BASIC FUNCTIONALITY, along with their activation/copy protection abominations -- with a FUCKING 90% MARKET SHARE -- and on and on.. I'll repeat it one last time: future historians are going to look back at the current era and simply shake their heads in utter disbelief and disgust. With a 90% market share, no other description for MS's policies is possible except abject extortion.
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You keep talking about this rebuying thing that just isn't true.
 
heatlesssun said:
You keep talking about this rebuying thing that just isn't true.
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You refuse to see the obvious point. All Windows versions up to XP could be freely reinstalled without getting MS's permission, and it wasn't until AFTER they had acquired their monopoly that they changed the policy.
 
JeffDC said:
You refuse to see the obvious point. All Windows versions up to XP could be freely reinstalled without getting MS's permission, and it wasn't until AFTER they had acquired their monopoly that they changed the policy.
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Retail copies of Windows can be moved from computer-to-computer, it's right in the licensing.

Only OEM licenses are tied to a specific piece of hardware.
 
JeffDC said:
You refuse to see the obvious point. All Windows versions up to XP could be freely reinstalled without getting MS's permission, and it wasn't until AFTER they had acquired their monopoly that they changed the policy.
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In retail the OS is tied to the hardware, true. But what you're saying is that you should only have to buy the OS once and install it over and over on different hardware and have it supported indefinately.
 
Unknown-One said:
Retail copies of Windows can be moved from computer-to-computer, it's right in the licensing.

Only OEM licenses are tied to a specific piece of hardware.
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Correct, I didn't say it properly. It's OEM versions. Today some OEM versions are free to them. So in that case you never paid a dime for the OS.
 
heatlesssun said:
In retail the OS is tied to the hardware, true. But what you're saying is that you should only have to buy the OS once and install it over and over on different hardware and have it supported indefinately.
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We've already been over this. You apparently don't understand that selling software retail mandates end-user support in most countries, including ours, while OEM sales do not. It doesn't cost MS one penny more in support or other costs whether I run a copy of Windows on one of my PCs or a dozen, and entirely regardless of hardware.

You conveniently gloss over the fact MS stopped selling Win 7 via retail, but along with that cessation went all legal requirements the company had to provide any end-user support for that product. They are out of excuses as to why copy protection is necessary for a product that holds a virtual monopoly on the world's PCs.
 
defaultluser said:
Can you install it to a USB drive (i.e. Live distro), or is it hard disk only?

It's a bit of a pain to cleanup after you install multiple copies of Windows to the same computer, and I'm feeling pretty lazy :D
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Gonna need 2 drives. A drive with the ISO, and another blank one for the install.
 
JeffDC said:
We've already been over this. You apparently don't understand that selling software retail mandates end-user support in most countries, including ours, while OEM sales do not. It doesn't cost MS one penny more in support or other costs whether I run a copy of Windows on one of my PCs or a dozen, and entirely regardless of hardware.
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So you're saying that Microsoft would have no obligation to support hundreds of millions of copies of Windows?

JeffDC said:
You conveniently gloss over the fact MS stopped selling Win 7 via retail, but along with that cessation went all legal requirements the company had to provide any end-user support for that product. They are out of excuses as to why copy protection is necessary for a product that holds a virtual monopoly on the world's PCs.
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They still sell 7 Pro version in retail.
 
heatlesssun said:
So you're saying that Microsoft would have no obligation to support hundreds of millions of copies of Windows?
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Not would. They don't have and never have had any legal obligation to provide end-user support for OEM sales. The size and revenue of the company are genuinely absurd as a result, endless sales without end-user support costs, and "product support" becomes self-limited to security updates.

Do we need to review the history? Even the flipping bugs survived entirely untouched through five different "products" in the Win95/OSR2/98/98SE/ME line, many bugs present in NT3/4 remained untouched in Win2k and some even made it to XP. It must be nice dictating when new products are sold as new products, not providing end-user support for products unless it's an additional profit center, and forcing the world to license a generic OS per machine. For reasons nobody has yet explained other than corporate greed and their current effective monopoly on the world's desktops. What is your response to my repeated point that WPA was implemented only after Windows had secured its monopoly? A monopoly I should add that courts in three different countries determined was illegally maintained by MS.
 
heatlesssun said:
And how many 40 year olds wish they had enough hair to pull that off? Welcome to [H]aircutForum.
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I always laugh when heatless comes up with something funny, being such a bone-dry sounding person most the time ;)

(I'm one of those 40+ that wishes he had a little more on top!)
 
tec805 said:
I always laugh when heatless comes up with something funny, being such a bone-dry sounding person most the time ;)

(I'm one of those 40+ that wishes he had a little more on top!)
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It's okay to be balding or losing your hair. Like look at that Patrick Stewart guy from the Star Wars TV show. He was very crush-worthy and was a chrome dome.
 
tec805 said:
If only I was cool, educated and dashing of appearance!
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Well, I'm a huge believer in the idea that there's someone out there for everyone so what doesn't make one person go, "Orly?" might for someone else. If not...um...porn and video games?
 
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