Microsoft Ends Windows 7 Mainstream Support Today

I wonder if they're going to release a SP2 for Windows 7 - you know - so that we don't have to download all those friggin updates when we install Windows 7 on a box.
 
jbltecnicspro said:
I wonder if they're going to release a SP2 for Windows 7 - you know - so that we don't have to download all those friggin updates when we install Windows 7 on a box.
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That would of only been included in mainstream support.

Microsoft announced a long time ago they were no longer offering service packs. It really, really sucks for Windows 7 users and IT professionals.
 
jbltecnicspro said:
I wonder if they're going to release a SP2 for Windows 7 - you know - so that we don't have to download all those friggin updates when we install Windows 7 on a box.
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They stated before even Windows 8 launched that there would be no SP2 for 7, as win 8 was their baby now
 
Arct1c0n said:
If you don't work in the IT industry, then you'll never understand, I envy you.
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Even then, you're using volume licensing which come with it's own support through Microsoft. You're paying per incident anyway, AFAIK. I don't think this affects IT users as much as the consumer side of it. I could be wrong, of course.
 
Ur_Mom said:
Even then, you're using volume licensing which come with it's own support through Microsoft. You're paying per incident anyway, AFAIK. I don't think this affects IT users as much as the consumer side of it. I could be wrong, of course.
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Depends on which shift end of the IT segment you work in
 
CreepyUncleGoogle said:
You asked if I needed any equipment before we started this thread and I said, "No, but I need material components for all my spells so I cast Summon Heatlesssun."
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No but seriously, wow, 3rd page and he hasn't posted... i'm starting to worry about his health actually.
 
bigdogchris said:
That would of only been included in mainstream support.

Microsoft announced a long time ago they were no longer offering service packs. It really, really sucks for Windows 7 users and IT professionals.
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I agree on this one. I don't really care about extended support as much as having all of the patches built into the install disk. Seems like they could offer a wrap up build once a year (and obsolete the old wrap up within a year).

At least IT shops can justify the time it takes to build images with nlite (or Windows built in tools). I generally can't, though i may do that with Windows 8.1.
 
Revdarian said:
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No but seriously, wow, 3rd page and he hasn't posted... i'm starting to worry about his health actually.
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At least he attempts to contribute some useful information instead of constantly trolling like the poster you quoted...
 
nilepez said:
I agree on this one. I don't really care about extended support as much as having all of the patches built into the install disk. Seems like they could offer a wrap up build once a year (and obsolete the old wrap up within a year).

At least IT shops can justify the time it takes to build images with nlite (or Windows built in tools). I generally can't, though i may do that with Windows 8.1.
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We have several images that we deploy. Having all the updates and drivers on an image for an initial install saves hours of time. I'd love to see a roll-up install disc. Every update on the install disc, so when you install it, you're up to date as far as when the image was downloaded. That'd do wonders for the consumer world.

One exception - if an update breaks something on a certain config. No way to remove that update other than using the base install and doing manual updates.
 
Biznatch said:
At least he attempts to contribute some useful information instead of constantly trolling like the poster you quoted...
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Yeah heat does contribute a lot, actually.
We aren't doing this to troll him, it's all in good fun. ;)
 
defaultluser said:
This is no big deal. It just means you won't get new features added to the OS, but they will supply security updates until 2020.

This is the same point Windows XP was in back in 2009. Nothing to see here, except for IT departments in large companies (that move like slugs) have to start evaluating Windows 10 for a 2019 roll-out :)
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or the 2020 last month roll out :( the large company I worked for (past tense) waited until the last month roll out win 7.. well over 1k pcs moved from xp to 7. Lucky for us about another 200 used xp embeded so we could wait on those a little longer.
 
oopspowsurprise said:
want to use an OS? pay a monthly fee... that's where we are headed.
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I don't see that yet. It may come to that, but my guess is taht for MS that will simply be an option. They're going to offer that for the foreseeable future.
 
Biznatch said:
At least he attempts to contribute some useful information instead of constantly trolling like the poster you quoted...
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No, sorry but no, believe it or not CUG sometimes doesn't troll. This is a shameful secret tho, and we would rather have you not say it out loud :p

Heatless is just too overly attached to the defense of microsoft, but honestly he must be overworked atm for him not to show up explaining the difference between mainstream support and the support of security patches.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy => point 6.
 
Revdarian said:
No, sorry but no, believe it or not CUG sometimes doesn't troll. This is a shameful secret tho, and we would rather have you not say it out loud :p

Heatless is just too overly attached to the defense of microsoft, but honestly he must be overworked atm for him not to show up explaining the difference between mainstream support and the support of security patches.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy => point 6.
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No he's just pointing out all the misinformation that certain people toss around here. Kinda like Serpico use to do with Apple several years ago (sadly, I think he gave up).
 
Revdarian said:
No, sorry but no, believe it or not CUG sometimes doesn't troll. This is a shameful secret tho, and we would rather have you not say it out loud :p

Heatless is just too overly attached to the defense of microsoft, but honestly he must be overworked atm for him not to show up explaining the difference between mainstream support and the support of security patches.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy => point 6.
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Nah, Heatless just hates bullshit as much as I do, probably more. :p
 
heatlesssun said:
You got me.;) Kyle sent out some banhammer warnings to several last week including myself so I'm just not getting into the nonsense.
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Ah, ok, no problem. I must have missed those threads but just as well, getting into it can be to frustrating to be worth it. :) Also, I just thought of this, someone out there probably has a unofficial SP2 available I would bet.
 
ManofGod said:
Yep, and they both stink. :D
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But one is more useful than the other. I see a lot of stuff labeled as BS when it comes to Microsoft (Windows 8.x especially), but some of it really isn't. It's the way a lot of people use the OS, and for them Win8 isn't the solution. Microsoft is working on that, too, with Windows 10. Why fix something that isn't broken?

I say that as I'm wearing my Microsoft jacket, drinking from a Microsoft mug, being one of very few in my organization using Windows 8.1. I'm a huge Microsoft fanboy, but I listen to the feedback that many people provide. Those users aren't wrong, either. So, I don't think of it as BS. I think of it as fertilizer. Taking that feedback can help create a better OS for the user with Windows 10. Yes, I admit some people don't like it because it's "different". I do see a lot more that don't like it for other reasons.
 
Ur_Mom said:
But one is more useful than the other. I see a lot of stuff labeled as BS when it comes to Microsoft (Windows 8.x especially), but some of it really isn't. It's the way a lot of people use the OS, and for them Win8 isn't the solution. Microsoft is working on that, too, with Windows 10. Why fix something that isn't broken?

I say that as I'm wearing my Microsoft jacket, drinking from a Microsoft mug, being one of very few in my organization using Windows 8.1. I'm a huge Microsoft fanboy, but I listen to the feedback that many people provide. Those users aren't wrong, either. So, I don't think of it as BS. I think of it as fertilizer. Taking that feedback can help create a better OS for the user with Windows 10. Yes, I admit some people don't like it because it's "different". I do see a lot more that don't like it for other reasons.
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Yep, and I agree with you. When it comes to the customers I work with, whether on the phone, on site or in house, I agree with you. When it comes to some of the folks on here who spread FUD and misinformation intentionally, that is different. Since I love technology and trying out and experiencing all the operating systems, I get to help folks out with it and do what I love.

Some things are not for everyone though. For instance, there is a interface called i3 for Linux which works great for programmers. When I tried to use it, I was totally lost since it requires a lot of customizing to just be able to use it. However, I do not think it sucks, it crap, is garbage or anything else just because I am not the one who it is aimed at.

That is why, in my opinion, folks on this board who claim to be IT professionals should not be getting all bent out of shape about something they do not like. Instead, enjoy it for what it is and learn it. Remember, if you are in it because you love it, you will enjoy it. If you are in it just for a job, you might hate it and have no enjoyment out of it.
 
ManofGod said:
Yep, and I agree with you. When it comes to the customers I work with, whether on the phone, on site or in house, I agree with you. When it comes to some of the folks on here who spread FUD and misinformation intentionally, that is different. Since I love technology and trying out and experiencing all the operating systems, I get to help folks out with it and do what I love.

Some things are not for everyone though. For instance, there is a interface called i3 for Linux which works great for programmers. When I tried to use it, I was totally lost since it requires a lot of customizing to just be able to use it. However, I do not think it sucks, it crap, is garbage or anything else just because I am not the one who it is aimed at.

That is why, in my opinion, folks on this board who claim to be IT professionals should not be getting all bent out of shape about something they do not like. Instead, enjoy it for what it is and learn it. Remember, if you are in it because you love it, you will enjoy it. If you are in it just for a job, you might hate it and have no enjoyment out of it.
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Can't argue with that at all. :)
 
Free Support..lol you mean their useless complex how to's on their websites, places like [H] offer better support that MS own site.
 
Revdarian said:
No, sorry but no, believe it or not CUG sometimes doesn't troll. This is a shameful secret tho, and we would rather have you not say it out loud :p
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Yes! Shhhhhh! Such things are deep, sinister secrets that should never, ever be spoken aloud. Thank goodness no one reads these things and they vanish forever from search engines so it'll never be known. :D
 
heatlesssun said:
You got me.;) Kyle sent out some banhammer warnings to several last week including myself so I'm just not getting into the nonsense.
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I gave up, people would rather believe Bullshit and I'd rather not waste my time trying to talk to someone like that.

Now I just go passed any threads containing MS, Google or Apple. Will randomly look to see if there is a conversation out if it immediately dove into the "lol win8 sux!"
 
Has anybody here actually used MS support, as in called them with some issue?
Just how much support does support give?

Side note, dug out my XP drive I put away last June and fired it up without issue, still works great.
Me thinks the "scare" was probably overblown.

I can see the exact same thing happening to 7 in 2020 unless 10 [or even 11] is a huge hit.
 
Ur_Mom said:
But one is more useful than the other. I see a lot of stuff labeled as BS when it comes to Microsoft (Windows 8.x especially), but some of it really isn't. It's the way a lot of people use the OS, and for them Win8 isn't the solution. Microsoft is working on that, too, with Windows 10. Why fix something that isn't broken?

I say that as I'm wearing my Microsoft jacket, drinking from a Microsoft mug, being one of very few in my organization using Windows 8.1. I'm a huge Microsoft fanboy, but I listen to the feedback that many people provide. Those users aren't wrong, either. So, I don't think of it as BS. I think of it as fertilizer. Taking that feedback can help create a better OS for the user with Windows 10. Yes, I admit some people don't like it because it's "different". I do see a lot more that don't like it for other reasons.
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You could be right. I'm determined to install 8.1 in the next week or so (I'll have 7 fully backed up), but contractors at work are on 8, and most of the time, i see no difference between it and 7.
 
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