Microsoft Boosts Office 2019 Price by 10%

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  1. Megalith

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    Microsoft is raising the price of its regular, perpetually licensed Office suite by 10% in October. While Redmond claims the increase was made to better represent “the significant value added to the product over time,” critics say the company is just trying to push users to Office 365 or Microsoft 365 subscriptions.

    The application bundle will not be the only component to see a price increase. Also slated for an Oct. 1 boost will be prices for on-premise servers, including Windows Server 2019 Standard Edition and what Microsoft dubs "productivity servers," which include Exchange, SharePoint Server and Project Server. Those servers' prices will climb by 10% as well.
     
  2. c3k

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    Woot. Libre Office, here I come...
     
  3. sadsteve

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    I'm already there! I started my migration from Microsoft applications a little while after the release of Windows 8. Libre Office, Firefox and Thunderbird were my first steps. I pretty much do all my computing/programing in Linux now, I just keep a Windows 10 partition for gaming.
     
  4. _l_

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    why don't corporations just keep people's pay the same year after year and not keep raising prices every time they give the workers a cost of living increase?
     
  5. Executioner

    Executioner Limp Gawd

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    Fuck MS. I still use and have Office 2003, 2007, and 2010. The next versions of Office all suck. Not interested any any version after 2010. Running Linux Mint 18.3 with Office 2007 installed. On my laptop that I still have Windows 7, I'm running Office 2010.
     
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    Not really a good argument, that would mean never selling more than a set number of licenses, never more, never less. Each license more they sell is a raise. No more production goes into 1 license then a million. Same code
     
  7. bugleyman

    bugleyman [H]ard|Gawd

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    Software licensing in general is a bag of hurt. Microsoft licensing is worse than most.
     
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  9. Dekoth-E-

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    Honestly still worth it. I dislike it, but subscription services are garbage and free versions aren't office no matter what the defenders try to argue.
     
  10. John P. Myers

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    https://www.openoffice.org/ From Apache. Does pretty much everything M$ Office does for free. And it's compatible with Office files you may already have.

     
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    Didn't OpenOffice basically get dropped for development years ago? I think LibreOffice is a fork and more actively maintained.

    It loads really slowly on macOS, but then not quite as slow as MS Office (I use LibreOffice 99.9% of the time)
     
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    At what price point does it no longer become "worth it"?
     
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  13. Dekoth-E-

    Dekoth-E- [H]ardness Supreme

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    At the price point that the overwhelming majority of the business world ceases using it and cheaper alternatives actually exist.
     
  14. bigdogchris

    bigdogchris [H]ard as it Gets

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    Sticking with on-prem.
     
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  15. TwiceOver

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    I was really hesitant about Office 365 for our business. After finally switching, it's easily the best value we get for a subscription. Hell, I had to start licensing Adobe Acrobat for my engineers and that is the same price per month for Acrobat compared to Office 365 Business Premium + Unlimited Archiving (Full Office Suite, Hosted Exchange, 50gb mailboxes, Unlimited email archiving, Skype For Business + meetings, 1TB OneDrive Storage).
     
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  16. Nanogrip

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    May I introduce WPS Office?

    https://www.wps.com/download/

    It is way better than Libre Office, but... it's from a Chinese developer... I've firewalled mine from ever accessing the internet so I guess I'm half safe.

    I haven't found anything better for Windows or Linux.
     
  17. zalazin

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    I still use Open office never failed. In fact i still have an UNOPENED copy of MS office...got it for 20 bucks when I worked for a Very Rich UNCLE...ha ha ha
     
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  18. darckhart

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    ms office exec: why aren't more schlubs subscribing to office?

    ms office software chump: because 365's broken af and no one likes shit that doesn't work. that's why they wait for our stable release.

    ms office exec: haven't they heard of insider slow ring??

    ms office software chump: hahahaha

    ms office exec: well, then we'll just raise the prices by 10%. that'll teach them!
     
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  19. rudy

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    I like office 365 its a really valuable product and service. I also enjoy that since moving to it the whole problem with outdated versions of office documents has gone away. From MS perspective I think they should keep raising the price on regular office and lower the price on O365. Right now its still usually cheaper to get the perpetual license even if you upgrade everytime a new office comes out.
     
  20. nutzo

    nutzo [H]ardness Supreme

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    Lucky I don't wave to worry about the price at the office.
    We're a Microsoft developer, and they give us more than enough licenses to cover us. (we have about 30% more licenses than employees)
    Not sure what I would do if we grew significantly, or they cut the number of licenses.

    I could roll out O365, but I prefer the standard office install.

    Really hate that Adobe forced us to go with the subscription model. We used the older version as long as possible before switching.
    Because the subscription model is more expensive, we reduced the number of users that have Adobe loaded on their systems.
     
  21. Paul_Johnson

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    Did you read the second half of this post in addition to the first? I ask because the second part answers the first.
     
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  22. Mugato

    Mugato Muh Feelz!

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    Lotta exploits in there bro, I’m sure you are savvy and a low risk target, but just so you know.
     
  23. Mugato

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    Same here but can’t go to 365 for everyone, we’re segmented. This is BS, there are no new “features” past the horrible patches that screw up indexing and cause bluescreens. They do this every once in a while to spark sales if they notice it dwindling, sales can push oh there’s a 10% increase coming but you can license up or down a version so if you have any year end (fiscal) projects coming up I suggest you get on it now! Oh, and they are auditing again soon, make sure you’re licensed! Those “audits” are not even from Microsoft...it’s a third party “affiliate” with no power, again simply to push sales.

    Hope I didn’t let too much out of the bag lol!
     
  24. SamuraiInBlack

    SamuraiInBlack [H]ardness Supreme

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    Fuck subscribing for Office. They'll get my subscription for it when they make it free for having Xbox Live.

    I get Amazon Prime Video for free for having a Prime account. Granted not every movie/show is free with my subscription, but I also don't plan on binge-watching the entire archive either. Microsoft CAN do similar. It's whether or not they will.
     
  25. Domingo

    Domingo [H]ard as it Gets

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    My company typically offers the opportunity to buy an Office license for $49. I've done that for the last two releases. Hopefully that's still an option going forward as we've mostly moved toward using the Google suite apps internally.
     
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  26. Executioner

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    I have all legit copies of these that I bought years ago. I'm not signing up for a subscription service for software. I'm slowly moving to Linux Mint away from MS software. I may also move to Libre Office. Just need to play with it more. At work we use 365.
     
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    Rant time.

    I don't recommend MS Office anymore to anyone unless they already know they have a business need to match their Office suite to a company standard.

    Outside of a large corporate environment what the hell do ANY of the features of the new editions of office mean to any of us? Who needs their cloud storage? Who needs or wants the latest version of Outlook? (Who should still be using Outlook outside a managed environment anyway? It's a friggin support nightmare for end users. Regular people need IMAP web mail and maybe a light client and that's IT!) Who cares about nearly ALL the features of the Office suite?

    We need universal documents and spreadsheets that format properly. That covers 99% of daily usage.

    For the most part, we are almost there. OpenOffice and LibreOffice do that. One is more stable than the other, one has more features than the other.

    But just the process to purchase and install MS Office has become so burdensome it's not worth it. I have to sit down with most of my customers for an hour or more to get Office on their systems. Some of them have no clue how to navigate the MS store to buy or activate. Many have made a MS account at some point in the past and have no idea at ALL how to access it, how to use it, what their password was that they created years ago, WHICH ACCOUNT they activated Office on if they have more than one email address, which one of several Office purchases are on which computers they own, or even know for sure which year version of Office they had on their systems to begin with!!!

    Yes, that's an average end user and I see them every week. MS has made the whole concept of MS Office so damn confusing and convoluted over the last decade of changes that no one has the slightest idea WTF is going on or how to get/use it.

    /rant mode off
     
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  28. Speedo68

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    Damn, now I can see why we renewed our Corporate License. Just resigned a few months early to lock in price before change. And yeah, even with Office 2016 cheaper prices, still pay less over 3 years than O365.

    Our company had data compromised via O365. No more cloud for us. Everything is on Premise with Office 2016 at this time. Moved our Azure to wholy owned servers/Azure Stack in a few Data Centers we already are using...

    Every employee gets Office 2016 for home use also. And can purchase extra copies for $49.
     
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    Is there an alternative to Outlook that has rules? I just couldn't live without the way they automatically organize everything. MS has me by the balls on that one, it seems.
     
  30. N4CR

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    I wish I'd kept 2010. Went to 2013 and fuck that slow ass, productivity killing ribbon. Jesus christ it's a shit design and the 'muh ribbon is good' crowd obviously don't do anything beyond simple formatting.
     
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    Fake News. Just a reason to bash Office.

    Make Microsoft Great Again.
     
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  32. Dekoth-E-

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    I trash resumes every single day because of that "Almost there" part because they came through as a giant mess. If they can't even get word processing right there is no way in hell I would trust them for something as complex as a spreadsheet where vastly more variables are at play. So keep encouraging people to use that dogshit so they can keep wondering why they never get called back on their job applications.
     
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    If a 10% price increase of the new stand-alone Office suite causes you to move to Libre Office, you haven't paid full price for Office in a long time.
     
  34. c3k

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    Actually, I've been paying full price for far TOO long. I've got 7 licensed versions currently running on 7 different machines. I'm about to build another, making it 8. The upgrade cost from a deprecated version to the most recent is the same as full price.

    I certainly don't think an upgrade should be free. I'm getting something "better" (debatable), so it should cost. Got it. However, the current pricing scheme MS uses actually penalizes me for having purchased licenses in the past.

    If rig 8 and Libre works well, I'll never look back. (And, yes, I do contribute to "free" software if I use it and I like it.)
     
  35. GNUse_the_force

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    Don't forget SoftMaker FreeOffice or WPS office.
    im quite happy to use gedit or mousepad that's the extent to which i need to edit documents :p
     
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  36. IndyColtsFan

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    Microsoft has made Office 365 prices ridiculously low AND you get 5 Office licenses per user (depending on tier, I think). So as someone correctly pointed out earlier, these increases are Microsoft’s way of putting more pressure on businesses to migrate to O365.
     
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    Many years ago, I received an awful looking resume. The formatting was terrible. I ignored it and looked at the content and we interviewed AND hired the guy. This was for a global technical role and the guy was awesome.
     
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  38. Armenius

    Armenius I Drive Myself to the [H]ospital

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    My place of work allows me to snag Office for $10. The standalone, that is, not that subscription bullshit.
     
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    Mine as well, I think it's a perk for employees of companies that have volume Office licensing as it's the kind program to keep people hooked on Office. $10 for permanent Office Pro license is virtually a no brainer if you have any need for an Office productivity suite, even if it's just a few times a year.
     
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  40. heatlesssun

    heatlesssun [H]ard as it Gets

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    The ribbon has been in Office for over a decade in coming up on five major versions with Office 2019. I remember the angst over the ribbon with its introduction in Office 2007 and all the cries about how it was going to kill productivity and push people to other Office suites. That simply didn't happen.
     
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