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Meltdown 2005 and DX10

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Brent_Justice

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formerly WGF 2.0, formerly DX10 :p

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1841218,00.asp

the good stuff: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1841223,00.asp

The upcoming Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are based on DirectX 9 technology, in the case of the 360 it's "DirectX 9 and then a little more." But DirectX 10 is a whole different animal. It's a major revision to the API, almost a complete rewrite that requires substantially different hardware than the stuff we've seen so far.

To start with, let's clear up a few naming misconceptions. Over the past year or more, the graphics "stuff" coming in Windows Vista has been referred to by many names. DirectX Next and Windows Graphics Foundation 2.0 are two of the most prominent. The names have been changing internally at Microsoft, and it seems that they've all but settled on actually calling it DirectX 10. Contrary to some reports, it will ship with Vista, along with DirectX 9.L, a version of DX9 altered to fit the new LDDM driver model used by the OS.
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now here is the real question: Get the WGF 1.0 R520 card when it comes out, or wait till early next year to get the WGF 2.0 R580 card
 
As i've said before if you keep waiting for the next best thing you are going to be waiting indefinitely, because there is always something cool and new right around the corner.

I say buy now, sell later, upgrade when needed.

What I'm not 100% sure on is if DX10 shipping in Vista will include Shader Model 4.0. I am assuming it does, but the article does not state the SM level support, but it would make sense that it would.
 
Looks like I'm stuck with my graphics card for a little while longer. It seems pointless to upgrade now and then have to do it again less than a year later. Oh well, my 5900xt can run anything at 1024x768 and thats not to bad so I think I can hold out a little longer.
 
Also, I'm not sure what support XP is going to get, i.e. what DX updates will be available to it. Will DX10 be released for XP? Will SM 4.0? I really don't know.
 
so did i waste money buying my 7800gtx pretty much? ive waited since my gf2 to upgrade.... and when i did. something even better is about to come out.... crap. :mad:
 
All I want is to pull another 9700 pro, I bought that card right when it came out. It was the first to support DX9 even though the software DX9 wasnt officially out, or any games that supported it. But the card dominated at the time and even now it still supports all the high end games that require DX9. I hope that this will be the case with the R580 and WGF 2.0
 
theres no way i could go back to my GeForce 2 64mb.... i guess ill just keep my 7800gtx then.... lol. :eek:
 
Big Fat Duck said:
All I want is to pull another 9700 pro, I bought that card right when it came out. It was the first to support DX9 even though the software DX9 wasnt officially out, or any games that supported it. But the card dominated at the time and even now it still supports all the high end games that require DX9. I hope that this will be the case with the R580 and WGF 2.0
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Same here. But I don't really think that the R580 will support the next DirectX or WGF2.0, or whatever you want to call it. Windows Vista is still a long way ahead, and the R580 is supposed to be a refresh of the R520, like the R480. The next DirectX hardware requirements are also so much different, so I don't think that ATi will include DX10 support not until the refresh after R580, possibly known as the R6xx.

This is just my opinion and speculation, I don't know what ATi or Nvidia is going to do. ;)
 
Wont see cards supporting Direct X 10 till probably R600 and G80, which we wont see until late 2006 most likely.

I see, R580 refresh for R520 in early 2006, and a 7800GTX refresh either slightly earlier or around R580 time.
 
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