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MBP refresh?

Terpfen said:
Also, just on a personal note, I don't get the angst behind the phasing out of 16:10.
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It's not about "phasing out of 16:10." It's about phasing out 16:10 while introducing a 16:9 resolution that is inferior to the 16:10 resolution. Forget about the 13" Macbooks, think about the graphics designer who's planning to drop $3000 on a new 17" MBP to replace his 2007 model. His has 1920x1200. He doesn't want to be told that his $3000 "upgrade" will come with a lower resolution 1920x1080 screen. As a graphics designer he's likely not fooled by the "FULL HD" marketing.

When the Dell U2711 is $600 I'll grab one in a heartbeat and join the 16:9 crowd. When laptops have 16:9 in a resolution that has more than 1200 pixels top to bottom, I'll check them out. Until then I'll be angsty, thanks.
 
SuperSubZero said:
It's not about "phasing out of 16:10." It's about phasing out 16:10 while introducing a 16:9 resolution that is inferior to the 16:10 resolution. Forget about the 13" Macbooks, think about the graphics designer who's planning to drop $3000 on a new 17" MBP to replace his 2007 model. His has 1920x1200. He doesn't want to be told that his $3000 "upgrade" will come with a lower resolution 1920x1080 screen. As a graphics designer he's likely not fooled by the "FULL HD" marketing.

When the Dell U2711 is $600 I'll grab one in a heartbeat and join the 16:9 crowd. When laptops have 16:9 in a resolution that has more than 1200 pixels top to bottom, I'll check them out. Until then I'll be angsty, thanks.
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Forget the graphics designer, who gets his $3000 laptop as a business expense and writes the damn thing off on his taxes. I'm the one who pays out of my pocket!

On a more serious note, I agree, the professional aimed machines (17") should stick 16:10, but it isn't going to happen, 16:9 is here, and we are all going to have to deal.
 
SuperSubZero said:
It's not about "phasing out of 16:10." It's about phasing out 16:10 while introducing a 16:9 resolution that is inferior to the 16:10 resolution. Forget about the 13" Macbooks, think about the graphics designer who's planning to drop $3000 on a new 17" MBP to replace his 2007 model. His has 1920x1200. He doesn't want to be told that his $3000 "upgrade" will come with a lower resolution 1920x1080 screen. As a graphics designer he's likely not fooled by the "FULL HD" marketing.
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I doubt there are very many people out there anal about the loss of 120 pixels.

Also, if we're talking about serious graphic designers, many have probably migrated to 2560x1600 already, so your scenario is irrelevant to them.
 
jrdonnaruma said:
@ Terpfen

Not in a laptop they havent.
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Sticking with the "serious graphic designers" premise, none of those persons are going to do their work on a notebook in the first place, so again the point becomes moot. A graphic designer would stay away from a notebook not because of the resolution but because of the generally inferior panel quality.
 
I remember back 5-8 years ago when we had 17" 1280x1024 LCD panels as a norm. That's 1024 vertical lines.

In 2010, 1080 vertical is considered to be uber top end, Full HD awesomeness. >_> GG. I'll stick with my 1920x1200, thanks. It's at least equivalent to 1600x1200 in height, which used to be the top end some years ago.

All this extra wide room is nice, but not when you're starting to lose vertical space.
 
SuperSubZero said:
It's not about "phasing out of 16:10." It's about phasing out 16:10 while introducing a 16:9 resolution that is inferior to the 16:10 resolution.
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That's pretty much my beef with it. Right now I'm using a P-MVA 1920x1200 monitor, which looks and works great. However, if something happens to my monitor I'll have no choice but to "upgrade" to a 1920x1080 display. Frankly, downgrading to a lower resolution doesn't make any sense to me. The only way around that is to pay $500 and up for a 16:10@1920x1200 monitor that's non-TN (in other words, for a monitor that closely matches the specs for my current one), which kind of sucks considering I got my current monitor for around $250 at OfficeMax (before it closed).
 
Terpfen said:
Sticking with the "serious graphic designers" premise, none of those persons are going to do their work on a notebook in the first place, so again the point becomes moot. A graphic designer would stay away from a notebook not because of the resolution but because of the generally inferior panel quality.
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Errr... I fall into the serious graphic designer, for the past 10+ years (Art Director) and have been using a 15" MBP for the past 2 years. A 17" Dell before that. Now, I do usually have an external monitor to plug into, but any design app always stays on the MBP because of the superior color. It's no Cinema Display, but pretty good as far as color. I would predict that most in this profession are on a MBP, with an external monitor setup. A few agencies may provide newer iMacs (they really do have good color) and effects/video studios will be using the Mac Pros.

As for the resolution, speaking from the designer POV, I would definitely miss any resolution on my MBP screen, but that's what external monitors are for, and that's the reason most designers will go with a 15" over a 17". Portability & processing power is important.
 
if Apple does plan to use the Nvidia Optimus in their lines of macbook pros.. I might be more inclined to get one than the current version
 
BAC4D00R SP1D0R said:
if Apple does plan to use the Nvidia Optimus in their lines of macbook pros.. I might be more inclined to get one than the current version
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It seems like this would happen since Apple is so opposed to using the Arrandale IGP. Its a drag that this whole thing has kept new MBPs months behind. I'm not used to Macs getting the newest Intel CPUs after everyone else.
 
this is taking a lot longer than i had expected for a refresh or i3, i5 and i7 notebooks

seems like a no brainer to me
 
Ok, now that the iPad is out of the way can we PLEASE have a new fucking Macbook Pro?
 
Serpico said:
Ok, now that the iPad is out of the way can we PLEASE have a new fucking Macbook Pro?
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Agreed. I'm sick of hearing about the iPad, and I want MBP updates. Then I can swap the Mini and laptop for an MBP.

I really hope this release is good too...the wait has been too long!
 
450 said:
Agreed. I'm sick of hearing about the iPad, and I want MBP updates. Then I can swap the Mini and laptop for an MBP.

I really hope this release is good too...the wait has been too long!
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Way too long, longest update since the switch to Intel CPUs. Its crap and hopefully they come out soon.

Of course, question now is if I upgrade. My 2008 MBP plays Starcraft 2, TF2, and L4D2 perfectly. It runs anything I can throw at it, and at the same time I'll be taking my iPad to work and shoots with me instead. The main upgrade for me would be the unibody enclosure and the 8 hour battery.

If they threw an IPS display on then it would be a no-brainer. Otherwise, I dunno, but at least let me see the option! :)
 
Serpico said:
Way too long, longest update since the switch to Intel CPUs. Its crap and hopefully they come out soon.

Of course, question now is if I upgrade. My 2008 MBP plays Starcraft 2, TF2, and L4D2 perfectly. It runs anything I can throw at it, and at the same time I'll be taking my iPad to work and shoots with me instead. The main upgrade for me would be the unibody enclosure and the 8 hour battery.

If they threw an IPS display on then it would be a no-brainer. Otherwise, I dunno, but at least let me see the option! :)
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Do you even need a Macbook Pro anymore? I mean you have the iMac at home, and the iPad for on the go. I think you said you were a cinematographer in a past post, is there ever a moment where you'd actually need access to your MBP during your job?

I wish Apple would get rid of the optical drive on the MBP, add a bigger battery and get us that IPS display.
 
450 said:
Do you even need a Macbook Pro anymore? I mean you have the iMac at home, and the iPad for on the go. I think you said you were a cinematographer in a past post, is there ever a moment where you'd actually need access to your MBP during your job?

I wish Apple would get rid of the optical drive on the MBP, add a bigger battery and get us that IPS display.
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I travel a lot for work, but the iPad could fill out the usual web/email thing when I'm on a business trip. I sometimes do photo editing when I'm away for color references in telecine, but if a good color grading app comes out then I could ditch Adobe Lightroom on the MBP. The iPad has a better screen anyway so I'd actually prefer to photo edit on it. An app with that level of control just needs to come out. I'm sure it will, people would love using this as an alternative to Lightroom, Aperture, or iPhoto.

One thing I can really see needing a MBP for is if I needed to download and convert HD video from my Canon 7D (becoming more common these days), but my camera assistant could just as well do it with his MBP.

Believe me, I've thought about completely replacing my MBP with an iPad in the future. Let me live with these things for a while and see how it shakes out. If my 2008 MBP ends up being my last notebook and I just have an iPad for my portable, I dunno, that would certainly save me a lot of money. :)
 
I just configured an HP Envy with i5, 1GB ATI 5830, 320GB 7200, 4GB, 15.6" 1920x1080 HD LED Brightview for $1120 with a discount code. It's seriously tempting me from waiting for the long overdue MBP refresh.
 
Mr. Wolf said:
I just configured an HP Envy with i5, 1GB ATI 5830, 320GB 7200, 4GB, 15.6" 1920x1080 HD LED Brightview for $1120 with a discount code. It's seriously tempting me from waiting for the long overdue MBP refresh.
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Who would blame you? You wouldn't have the same nice external hardware but how much longer can the same internal specs be tolerated? The delay is beyond ridiculous at this point.
 
Serpico said:
Who would blame you? You wouldn't have the same nice external hardware but how much longer can the same internal specs be tolerated? The delay is beyond ridiculous at this point.
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Yeah, it's tough to resist a deal like that. Still, I'd gladly wait for the MBP refresh if they'd slap a 1920x1080 15" LCD in it instead of this 1440x900 crap. If HP can do it, why not Apple?
 
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