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Some 6600GT video cards need to have the HSF reseated, then magically the temperatures drop.those temperatures jumped to 90 degrees on the GPU
My Dell notebook did that out of the box. I usually click on "don't send" and did that for months, but finally did send on the notebook and got a web page opened up stating that the problem was fixed in an update. Sure 'nuff, after a Windows update, problem never came back.It booted up straight into an error message: "The system has recovered from a serious error."
Not much of a surprise when they stepped up and spent $300 overnighting the system back and forth to make it all right.Gundamit said:I'm not much into the looks of a rig but I must admit the case interior is stunning. Seems like a shame to put the cover on.
Surprised to see [H] give the vendor the benefit of the doubt on the rig arriving unstable out of the box. No way it should have left the dock in that condition. That said, the remedy went off without a hitch and the rest of the evaluation's and performance seemed reasonable given the hardware used. Maingear gets through the evaluation virtually unscathed.
Looking forward to a little brutality on the next review.![]()
shig said:glad if I helped
magoo said:Dude, your geography teacher would cringe.......its rockies as in front range of the Rockies.oh man.![]()
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fxrron said:Great review. There is only one area where I think the evaluation was off a little. The comment that the cabeling was great is not quite correct. The CPU heatsink fan's wires were folded back several times. A10 rating need's for them to be shortned and sleeved.
Also the two wires on the bottom of the case near the MB should have been sleeved for a 10.
Ron
Torture? You dont know torture till youve driven on the GSP near exit 145, pal.
Hahah! Brian, quick, look, someone got it!MechWarrior said:I beg to differ. 21 in Newark is torture! I go to school at NJIT (and drive on the GSP near 145 quite often, and 21 is worse!), so I found it funny that I was literally minutes away from this systems home (and prolly painting some fraternity icons around the area too..hehe)
And BOXX Tech manufacturers custom cabling for their in-house engineered chassis - a 12-drive system that's about the size of your average Dell.fxrron said:AreEss:
I was not trying to put down the cabeling job that maingear did. It was better than most system builders. However, Overdrive PC does infact trim the fan wires to the exact length, resolder and sleeve them. Their top end systems are about $300 more than Maingear's. I guess Chris will need to give them a 12 or 13 for their wiring when he reviews a system from them.
Ron
Chris_Morley said:And BOXX Tech manufacturers custom cabling for their in-house engineered chassis - a 12-drive system that's about the size of your average Dell.Point is, for the price we paid, and please take notice that you can get a Prelude for $1100, the wiring job we received more than warranted a 10/10.
Don't worry, we have an Overdrive article on the burner right now - our Maingear was evaluated in full view of it.![]()
That's definitely a typo if it's there, I'll double check.SpookyBastard said:Great review and I am considering going with them once I save up a bit more rather than cyberpowersystems.. but was curious about one thing.
In the front page of the review, you listed that no monitor was included but on the second page during the packaging evaluation, you wrote "...Opening it up, we found the PC and monitor were packaged well with foam blocks that kept the computer from bouncing around." So did it come with a monitor or not? Or maybe I missed something..
-SB
KodiakStar said:Off the wall question...
For my next rig, I am seriously thinking about your company now, but I also like the looks of your F131 case, will it be possible to buy just a case alone?
Thanks
k*
stingray71 said:Hi Folks,
(Long Post Ahead)
Short Story - Maingear Rocks
Long Story - Read On
Just to add some validity to this method and send some kudos to Maingear. I actually ordered a machine from the fine folks at Maingear right before the holidays. I am kind of picky (my gaming friends say fussy) about my machines and very much into having it built to my exact specification, including case and specific memory brand and par numbers. I am one of those that typically drive my wife and anyone else who has to deal with me simply mad because I am so particular when it comes to this kind of purchase. I research everything including where to get my underwear online (barenecessities.com)!
The folks at Maingear were very patient and understanding that I wanted a much customized machine even including picking my own case and not using one of their own. They even allowed me to specify parts that were in low allocation like the Asus AN8SLI-32 Motherboard. So I was very excited to learn that the board arrived and the build process started. I received an e-mail note from the builder that my machine had shipped right be fore the Christmas holiday. I excitedly met the Fed-Ex man at the door and it was right at that point (I think I heard crickets and funny music) when I grabbed the box from his hand, saw the funny look on his face (that said I didnt do it), that I became worried. I could see some damage on the box and in carrying the box; I could hear and slightly feel things moving around inside. Upon opening and inspecting the box, I found a complete disaster.
The AMD dual core 4800 X2 processor and Zalman 9500 LED fan were completely ripped out of the CPU socket. I could see that the fan and processor was like rollerball inside that case. This box had obviously been handled hard in shipping. The case was actually one of the Lian Li special edition cases (looks like a seashell)...also hard to get. So I am thinking I am set all the way back two months. To be honest I was quite angry. I got right on the phone to Maingear and spent a few minutes with the builder who could tell that I was quite upset. He quickly escalated the call to some dude named Wallace. Now, I want you to know that Wallace has the patience of a Saint. I was not easy on him. In private, he would probably call me something else, but he's too professional to ever admit that. At that point, I just wanted my money back, which he was very willing to do. But I also really wanted a machine that I could run BF2 with everything on - 4xAA, 16 AF and all at high resolution on a large display with a great framerate.
My 4 year old Voodoo box which had been good to me was just not cutting it anymore. I could have gone back to Voodoo, but they are very expensive, I was not sure they would accommodate my customized configuration and they take a long time to build a machine at least another month or more. I was very torn about getting my money back and starting all over (the parts inside were heavily damaged and no one would feel comfortable reusing any of those parts), but Wallace calmed me down. He explained that he was the CEO and he would re-order all the parts and build it himself, give me a free custom paint job, extend the warranty to 3 years and even offered to send me a loaner to use while I was waiting for them to re-order the custom parts. I told him I would think about it over night and call him. He gave me both his direct number and extension at work and his personal cell phone number. I decided to see how the shipper (Fed-Ex) would handle it. I had contemplated following through with the refund request but how fast that occurred might have been dependent upon the claim process. This was a 6k machine and I knew it was alot for either Maingear or me to assume responsibility for damages. I decided to give it a few days to see where things went. Wallace spoke to me everyday and after a few days, Fed-ex accepted liability. He gave me personal attention and earned my confidence that he was sincere and genuinely was feeling my pain. He offered to build a new machine in any configuration I wanted.
At that point, a few new things became a possibility. He made some calls to reps including a special custom video card (their Viper line). The space on the Asus AN8SLI-32 motherboard was tight, but I really wanted better video cards. Yes I knew that even the 7800 GTX cards would be good but I wanted to run with all the eye candy now and for the foreseeable near future. He said let me see what I can do and landed me a pair of GTX 512 cards for an SLI configuration. Since then he also allowed me to upgrade to the newly released FX 60 dual core. I sent him a custom color to paint a new Lian Li 1100 plus case and now we are just waiting for the parts to arrive. We are somewhat at the mercy of the rep who promised to free up the 512 cards, which could take 7-10 days; however, I am willing to wait a little longer at this point considering the enhancement to the config. I didnt have the heart to tell him the Voodoo failed over the week-end (I got it going again but it is limping along), since he has already knocked himself out for me.
So these guys are awesome and highly recommended. Upon reading the review, I am even more thankful that I stuck with Maingear. I know the machine Wallace and Maingear is building will be pure sweetness. With respect to the Prelude review, could it be that the memory of the Prelude was damaged in shipping? Oh yea, maybe even knocked loose and damaged upon start-up because it came loose during shipment and was just partially connected. Based upon my experience to date, I feel confident in saying, that Maingear would not knowingly send a bad memory module. They care too much about their customers and maintaining a great personal relationship. I experienced that first hand. No company that offers to have something shipped back at their own expense would do that. Remember these folks even offered me a loaner just to ensure I stayed a happy customer. I didnt think I could do better than Voodoo and even thought about Falcon (until I read the Hard (OCP) review, but IMHO, it doesnt get better than Maingear.
Tim
thyshallsmite said:Well i just bought one, let see if mine is as good as everyone says they are. What you guys think, this is the comp i just bought:
PRODUCT F131 SLI-AMD
Exterior Automotive Color: Inferno Red
Front and Side Windows: Front and Side Windows
Power Supply: Seasonic SLI Extreme Gaming Edition-
Motherboard: ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 Dual Core Processor
CPU Cooling: Maingear Arctic CPU Water Cooling Sys
Memory: 2GB Corsair XMS 3500LLPRO
Do you want us to overclock your CPU?: NO
Hard Drive One: Western Digital Raptor Enterprise
Hard Drive Two: 500GB HITACHI Deskstar 7K500 7200
Flash Card Reader: 6-in-1 Internal USB 2.0 Card Re
Optical Drive One: Plextor 740A 16x DVD±R Dual Lay
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 7800GT 256MB GDDR3 PCIe
Do you want us to overclock your GPU?: NO
Network Card: Integrated Gigabit Network Card
Security Software: FREE! eTrust EZ Antivirus
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional 64x
Warranty: 3-Year Maingear Toll-Free Phone Support
I think i gona request overclocking though if they warranty it.
thyshallsmite said:Well i just bought one, let see if mine is as good as everyone says they are. What you guys think, this is the comp i just bought:
PRODUCT F131 SLI-AMD
Exterior Automotive Color: Inferno Red
Front and Side Windows: Front and Side Windows
Power Supply: Seasonic SLI Extreme Gaming Edition-
Motherboard: ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 Dual Core Processor
CPU Cooling: Maingear Arctic CPU Water Cooling Sys
Memory: 2GB Corsair XMS 3500LLPRO
Do you want us to overclock your CPU?: NO
Hard Drive One: Western Digital Raptor Enterprise
Hard Drive Two: 500GB HITACHI Deskstar 7K500 7200
Flash Card Reader: 6-in-1 Internal USB 2.0 Card Re
Optical Drive One: Plextor 740A 16x DVD±R Dual Lay
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 7800GT 256MB GDDR3 PCIe
Do you want us to overclock your GPU?: NO
Network Card: Integrated Gigabit Network Card
Security Software: FREE! eTrust EZ Antivirus
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional 64x
Warranty: 3-Year Maingear Toll-Free Phone Support
I think i gona request overclocking though if they warranty it.
The Bryophyte said:I have a question directed to our new "MaingearDude". Your machines look damn near perfect based on the review, but have you considered using an imaged recovery solution as an option?
Personally, I hate the idea of Dell's recovery partition because it is easily lost and it is the only recovery option. As far as a recovery DVD goes though, I think that is a really great option to have IN ADDITION to an actual windows xp disk if you just want to get the thing going again without swapping around disks.
MechWarrior said:I beg to differ. 21 in Newark is torture! I go to school at NJIT (and drive on the GSP near 145 quite often, and 21 is worse!), so I found it funny that I was literally minutes away from this systems home (and prolly painting some fraternity icons around the area too..hehe)
MaingearDude said:I'll take a note.
-Wallace
stingray71 said:Hi Folks,
(Long Post Ahead)
Short Story - Maingear Rocks
Long Story - Read On
Just to add some validity to this method and send some kudos to Maingear. I actually ordered a machine from the fine folks at Maingear right before the holidays. I am kind of picky (my gaming friends say fussy) about my machines and very much into having it built to my exact specification, including case and specific memory brand and par numbers. I am one of those that typically drive my wife and anyone else who has to deal with me simply mad because I am so particular when it comes to this kind of purchase. I research everything including where to get my underwear online (barenecessities.com......
(until I read the Hard (OCP) review, but IMHO, it doesnt get better than Maingear.
Tim
MaingearDude said:I'll take a note.
-Wallace
Depends on the agreement you have with Microsoft. There are builders who can do both.Chilly said:I'm also an OEM Builder, or rather I usedto be about a year ago, one of the problems with this, they way microsoft does the OEM versons of windows, you have 2 chocies, A Provide the Windows XP CD or provide an image system, pn a dvd or the dell way on a hidden partition, you can not do both, uless of course the oem is willing to shell out for a 2nd copy of Windows XP, Crappy policy I know, but its Microsofts policy, things might of changed since last year but I doubt it.
Dan3290 said:Directed to Maingeardude,
WHy dont you allow the customer to choose a graphics card in your laptops?
Also why dont you have a midrange laptop? Your laptop's jump in price from 1300 to over 2000+
iHatePants said:I've already spent a month saving up for a boutique computer. I've been researching all the companies and I was stuck between Maingear and Falcon NW.
This settles it. In another 3 months i'll be buying myself a maingear PC.
Im very excited!
swatX said:i am just worried that Maingear will just become like Dell when the # of orders increase over time which i am guessing will since seeing as a CEO of company builds a custom a case for his cutomer.
SO FRICKEN COOL!