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i was just using a mac, and after plus or less 1 hour i found out that windows is a lot better than the mac os. mac hardware is beautiful, but the mac os leaves you wishing you were using windows imo. i decided i wont buy myself a mac anymore, i am keeping windows.
 
Grats I guess. It takes getting used to. I still use my Windows 7 machine when I am home, but mac feels at home on a laptop. Although there are some some features I badly miss such as the drag window to the side to take up half the screen thing. I use that so much.
 
After a certain amount of familiarity with any OS, changing it up too much just feels weird.

You get so accustomed to a certain way of doing things that even if an alternative way is better in theory, you prefer the old way.

I've used OS X, and it has seemed pretty terrible to me, but there's plenty who swear by it.

But we all have our anachronisms. I can't do the stupid Pinning/Unpinning crap in Windows 7. I did the hack to put the oldstyle Quick Launch in, and Show Desktop is always the leftmost icon on it. To have it any other way is blasphemy to me.

I'm sure we feel the same way about OS X. Yeah, it's pretty, and maybe it's functional for some people. but not for me. I'm sure I'd get the hang of it eventually if I had to, but I don't.

I had a hellish enough time when I got my laptop from my job. After 3 years of Office 2007 on my personal rig, I was very used to it, but since I was coming in at an entry level position, I got stuck with an old Pentium M laptop running XP and Office 2003 and had a rough time re-learning 2003 (and now learning 2010 since the company was upgrading everyone with those Pentium M machines)
 
arcr said:
i was just using a mac, and after plus or less 1 hour i found out that windows is a lot better than the mac os. mac hardware is beautiful, but the mac os leaves you wishing you were using windows imo. i decided i wont buy myself a mac anymore, i am keeping windows.
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cool story bro... thanks for the specifics
 
I'd say my biggest beef with mac os x is the menu bar. I hate having to use them in my CS labs at school because I have to go to the menus alot and they aren't on the windows but at the top. Other than that I'm used to the differences.
 
I prefer Windows, and had a terrible time w/ the Mac OS when I tried my friends. I don't believe I would ever purchase a MAC, although many swear buy them. To-may-to To-mat-o I guess
 
So, the OP has barely used a Mac and is saying that Windows is better? Of course something you're used to is better. I used Windows for 10 years and had never used a Mac before. My parents got me a i5 Macbook Pro for graduation... and I haven't touched Windows since. At first I didn't like it. It was /different/ from Windows, and I had to learn. It was a pain.. but now, 7 months later, my productivity is 10x better and cleaner. I will never go back to Windows. Yes, I know have knowledge of it, and I would kinda need to get used to it again, but Mac is where it's at for me.

OP, the first time you try anything you aren't going to like it (yes, I know there are exceptions, but you get my point.) I've used the M$ Office suite for 7+ years now, but I picked up iWork when I got my Mac. Hated it at first and used Office 2008 for Mac.. but after using Keynote (I run PowerPoint for my school's tech team) Keynote is much more productive, smoother, sleeker, and looks better with less work.

OP, I'm not saying that Mac is for you, but trying something for 1 hour, give or take a little, and then saying it's not for you is kinda lame. Give it 5 days and come back and tell me what you think.
 
i feel like this should be shut down. i can't imagine any productive conversation happening given that first post.
 
i find the macos streamely easy to use. that is just it, the macos is simple. windows is a lot more complex and well made. the macos windows have small text and imo kind ugly.
 
I had to use a mac for a class at school. They were OK but the lack of a right click was frustrating, that and they only had 1 gb of ram and probably were comparable in cost to my PC that had 4 gb of ram in it. I did like the dock though and so after a bit I chose a dock for my windows and moved the taskbar to the top of the screen. I personally would probably never buy a mac if there was any way I could make a hackintosh instead. All in all I ended up working the 1st our of class leaving early and doing it all quicker and better on my home PC.
 
arcr said:
i find the macos streamely easy to use. that is just it, the macos is simple. windows is a lot more complex and well made. the macos windows have small text and imo kind ugly.
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This makes absolutely no sense and I suspect trolling.

DarkStarr said:
I had to use a mac for a class at school. They were OK but the lack of a right click was frustrating, that and they only had 1 gb of ram and probably were comparable in cost to my PC that had 4 gb of ram in it.
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Your information is about four years out of date.
 
Ihaveworms said:
I badly miss such as the drag window to the side to take up half the screen thing. I use that so much.
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Every windows user should install a program called hyperdock for mac os. Amazing app and its free. It gives you the preview windows on the dock (just like the previews in the win7 taskbar) and the window resizing options when you drag them to certain spots of the screen (works better than win7).

My main issue so far in using osx is the finder and file management. It just doesn't feel "right" compared to windows (at least, coming from windows).
 
computercatz said:
I prefer Windows, and had a terrible time w/ the Mac OS when I tried my friends. I don't believe I would ever purchase a MAC, although many swear buy them. To-may-to To-mat-o I guess
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Pretty much. Some people like Windows, some like OS X, others like Linux. Use whatever floats your boat.
 
arcr said:
i find the macos streamely easy to use. that is just it, the macos is simple. windows is a lot more complex and well made. the macos windows have small text and imo kind ugly.
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cool story bro, thanks for the specifics.

I think windows is not well made and not complex. Macos is more complex and better.
 
All 3 mainstream OSes are basically the same they've evolved to have a similar functionality with minor differences in look and feel. I've found that whichever one you use the most, whether by choice or not, is the one you'll prefer. I support Windows all day and find OSX a breath of fresh air. I started using in when work got me a MBP and have since moved to it at home. Most of my most used applications are cross platform anyways.
 
I like both equally, windows on my desktops, and OS X on my laptops. OS X is based on a much better foundation (UNIX), and i feel its more efficient, and ive had far less problems with OS X than ive had with windows. Then again, there are definitely things i like about windows that OS X doesnt do, or doesnt do nearly as well.

Its all just personal preference, and arcr has almost nothing to base his opinion off of.
 
arcr said:
i was just using a mac, and after plus or less 1 hour i found out that windows is a lot better than the mac os. mac hardware is beautiful, but the mac os leaves you wishing you were using windows imo. i decided i wont buy myself a mac anymore, i am keeping windows.
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I've been using OS X about half-time the last few months (my work laptop is a MBP, my home computer is a Win/Lin PC) and I have to say that I've come to respect it.

Personally, I prefer Linux as my OS, but due to the corporate environment and my wife, I can't use Linux as my primary OS... My job was nice enough to issue me a MBP though, and I have found that OS X is pretty faithful to its UNIX roots - close enough that I'm considering getting my own Mac product the next time I need a new laptop or desktop.

It sounds like you're really attached to the MS way of doing things, and that's fine. My wife is. A bunch of people I work with are. It's the most widely used OS on the planet, and you, and many others are comfortable using it. Personally, I think that *nix is far superior to Windows... but that doesn't mean I am going to totally reject it.
 
Maximus825 said:
All 3 mainstream OSes are basically the same they've evolved to have a similar functionality with minor differences in look and feel. I've found that whichever one you use the most, whether by choice or not, is the one you'll prefer. I support Windows all day and find OSX a breath of fresh air. I started using in when work got me a MBP and have since moved to it at home. Most of my most used applications are cross platform anyways.
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I've had a similar experience. Glad to know I'm not the only one... :D
 
all i mean is. there is nothing that the mac os can do that windows can't. apple takes territory by making there hardware look cute (and it does look very cute). there isn't a real reason for going from pc to a mac.
they had a chance when there was only windows xp. but now... win7 is better.
i am curious to see what mac os 10.7 will bring.
 
arcr said:
all i mean is. there is nothing that the mac os can do that windows can't. apple takes territory by making there hardware look cute (and it does look very cute). there isn't a real reason for going from pc to a mac.
they had a chance when there was only windows xp. but now... win7 is better.
i am curious to see what mac os 10.7 will bring.
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I did not know that Windows could do this:

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Actually, I did know that there's an application to do something similar but that it constantly crashes.
 
@Maximus and Ryken - Yup, there is plenty where Windows lags from a workspace/desktop management standpoint, and on top of everything the UI was apparantly designed by monkeys.

And btw, I like Windows 7, A LOT, but I'm not going to trick myself into thinking that there isn't unnecessary complication and obfuscation all over the place where there doesn't need to be. It gets pretty ridiculous. Even GNOME (shudder) gets some things right that Windows doesn't. In any case, all major modern UIs are pretty darn good at this point. I know Windows and OS X like the back of my hand and for many reasons I prefer OS X, especially on notebooks, but that doesn't mean that I automatically dislike Windows.

And as for the OP, to pass judgement on something completely unfamiliar to you after only using it briefly is ridiculous.

cbags101 said:
i feel like this should be shut down. i can't imagine any productive conversation happening given that first post.
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Yup. There is a way of opening discussion, of ordering things, and that post wasn't it.
 
And yet the buffet of replies only continues to grow, with nary a moderator in sight...
 
Serpico said:
And btw, I like Windows 7, A LOT, but I'm not going to trick myself into thinking that there isn't unnecessary complication and obfuscation all over the place where there doesn't need to be. It gets pretty ridiculous.
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I have to agree. The other day I was trying to figure out why I can't easily get to the Recycle Bin from anywhere but the desktop. Not from Start Search; not from My Computer; not from anywhere else. I was talking about it to someone at the time, and he let me in on a Run command that I could use to access it. The catch? All totaled, the command is like 75 characters long. Why?

Then there's adding network locations. I can't just click a volume or folder and drag it to the Network Locations section of the sidebar to add it as a network location. I can't right-click a volume or folder and do it that way. There's no button that I can find anywhere to do it. But if you right-click somewhere within the Network Locations section in the sidebar, you get a context menu item that — finally — lets you do it.

OS X is certainly not without flaws itself, but there are fewer instances where the approach to UI handling isn't obvious. For the most part, you can accomplish damn near anything by clicking, dragging and dropping something somewhere else. Dragging things into the trash; dragging files into application icons; dragging volumes right into the sidebar; dragging apps into or out of the dock, dragging items out of the menu bar; dragging a window from one space to another — it all makes sense. Having everything tied together with such a simple interaction paradigm that works on damn near everything means significantly less frustration for users. Often there are better ways to achieve the same thing, but dragging and dropping almost always does the job.

The little touches go a long way as well. I'm finding myself doing basic calculations with Spotlight pretty often these days. It's such a minuscule feature in terms of its importance, but it sure is nice being able to do basic calculations one key combo away and without additional applications/widgets. Can't do that in Windows, unfortunately.
 
arcr said:
i find the macos streamely easy to use. that is just it, the macos is simple. windows is a lot more complex and well made. the macos windows have small text and imo kind ugly.
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are you sure you want to continue ?

How many times do you have to select OK to make that change.

Changing the wallpaper on windows use to be easy, Right click > Properties > Desktop

Now on windows 7 it's like a 4 hour event to change your dam wallpaper WTF

You want to look at your network card properties, well go make a cup of coffee and then come back and start clicking, hoping your hand doesn't get sore.

FML, win xp & osx is gewd!
 
^You'd think Microsoft would have enabled BSOD font-smoothing by now.
 
My advice to everyone is "Don't feed the trolls." Is it really necessary to counter the argument: "Windows is better because I think it's better"?
 
Centauri said:
^You'd think Microsoft would have enabled BSOD font-smoothing by now.
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I wonder how Macs deal with OSX's "BSOD" if there's such a thing.

Actually, I kinda like having a BSOD: it tells me when hardware is failing.
 
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