Looking for the present king

[arthur_tuxedo]

I have a bad news. It's going beyond my budget.This seems to be the only option I can afford with my budget.

• AMD Ryzen 5 9600X
• MSI B850 GAMING PLUS WIFI
• 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30 Kingston FURY Beast
• Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 Ti (instead of 9070 or 5070 Ti)
• 1TB NVMe WD BLACK SN7100

I will game at 2K instead of 4K. Within an year I will upgrade the GPU and display yo 4K. What is your suggestion?

What are you planning to pay for that 3070 Ti? It was a decent card during the pandemic crypto madness, and back when 8 GB wasn’t such a limitation at 4K, but these days I’d only choose it if you’re getting a seriously good deal, like $230. Even then, you should understand that even a 3-year old game will struggle at 4K settings without heavy DLSS. It’s one thing to put up with such limitations if you’re milking an existing card until a good upgrade comes along, but if you’re spending money for the privilege, you should get something that can at least satisfy your bare minimum requirements. As depressing as the 9060 XT 16 GB’s performance is in 2025 for $400, it’s going to give you a lot more longevity than a 3070 Ti for $300.

Really, though, the 9070 non-XT for $600 is where it’s at. You won’t have to upgrade again for years or fiddle with settings to run your games at 4K, and it’s not that much more money. You can get a Ryzen 7700 non-X or 7500f from AliExpress for very little money and use the difference to get a better GPU. That’s how I got my 7700 for something like $160, and I haven’t had any problems. Just make sure it’s a seller with plenty of ratings and recent sales. The 9600X is a good CPU, but you can do better for your money. You can also find people selling their 7x00 CPUs second-hand as a bundle with AM5 Mobo and RAM for a nice discount, especially if it’s not an X3D and the MB isn’t a premium model.

Right now, you’re planning to spend 80% of the money for 50% of the performance of a decent system, and I’d hate to see anybody do that.

 

[E4g1e]

I have a bad news. It's going beyond my budget.This seems to be the only option I can afford with my budget.

• AMD Ryzen 5 9600X
• MSI B850 GAMING PLUS WIFI
• 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30 Kingston FURY Beast
• Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 Ti (instead of 9070 or 5070 Ti)
• 1TB NVMe WD BLACK SN7100

I will game at 2K instead of 4K. Within an year I will upgrade the GPU and display yo 4K. What is your suggestion?

Here’s the problem:

If all you’re going to play are games that are more than three years old, then your budget is in a very tough spot right now given your stated playing resolution. And your planned RTX 3070 Ti has too little VRAM for some games at even 1080p. But then again, you’ve literally backed yourself against the wall because it has gotten to a point where your only configuration choices are either a modern low-midrange CPU but an aged or weakling GPU or a good GPU but an old or weak CPU – in other words, stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

[maverick786us]

Here’s the problem:

If all you’re going to play are games that are more than three years old, then your budget is in a very tough spot right now given your stated playing resolution. And your planned RTX 3070 Ti has too little VRAM for some games at even 1080p. But then again, you’ve literally backed yourself against the wall because it has gotten to a point where your only configuration choices are either a modern low-midrange CPU but an aged or weakling GPU or a good GPU but an old or weak CPU – in other words, stuck between a rock and a hard place.

I edited that post and replaced 3070,with 9060 xt having 16gb ram

 

[pippenainteasy]

9800X3D is the king for gaming. 9950X3D tends to be slightly faster but just a little and the additional expense outweighs the small speed increase unless you just want the best. 9900X3D often gets beat by the 9800X3D since it uses 6-core CCDs and a lot of games prefer 8.

Intel has some decent options for lower budgets, but then we have to ask what's your budget?

It's actually only faster if you manually tune every game with process lasso. The 1% lows are definitely lower than 9800X3D at stock because secondary threads tend to wander and cross to the other CCD. It's really not an ideal CPU for gaming and requires a bit too much handholding.

 

[maverick786us]

Which thermal paste should I buy? I will use Deepcool AG 400 CPU heat sink

 

[pendragon1]

Which thermal paste should I buy? I will use Deepcool AG 400 CPU heat sink

it comes with some that will be good enough or, look at any of the thermal paste threads to decide how much money you want to spend...

 

[yinzerniner]

it comes with some that will be good enough or, look at any of the thermal paste threads to decide how much money you want to spend...

Pretty good comparison. I ended up getting the kpx to replace all my old thermal paste which were included with cooletd and it reduced temps about 2-4deg depending on use case. But spread really evenly and nicely and included the little plastic spatula which helps. Minimal money well spent

View: https://youtu.be/RhaEOEGDb94?si=KfPnzMD0P_eSoClX

 

[pendragon1]

reduced temps about 2-4deg

thats the same for basically all paste. hence: use what comes with or decide how much you want to spend (for 2-4c) for what basically doesnt matter, unless pushing ocs...

 

[yinzerniner]

thats the same for basically all paste. hence: use what comes with or decide how much you want to spend (for 2-4c) for what basically doesnt matter, unless pushing ocs...

Not really. Replaced the stock paste that came with a Thermalright Phantom Spirit Evo that I just purchased with the KPx and idle and load temps dropped about 2deg (delta, not gross). Whether it was an application error on the stock TR paste I cannot say (did the X with dots, not a spread), but the drop was there.

Now whether the KPx is better than other highly regarded paste like noctua or arctic silver is another matter, but for the stock stuff from a cooler that’s $50 it made a difference.

Now it’s just time to bring on more scented varieties, to match up with those fragranced Waifu GPUs

View: https://youtu.be/6BQcR4tjoAU?si=Y2vv22001Eu-xjQX

 

[pendragon1]

Not really.

not really? you just proved what i said.
what a thread though, talks about everything but intel cpus...

 

[maverick786us]

Finally the moment of truth

 

[maverick786us]

1. CPU: AMD Ryzen 9600X
2. Mobo: Gigabyte B850 Gaming
3. GPU: Asus AMD Radeon 9060 XT 16GB
4. PSU: Corsair CX 750
5. RAM: DDR 5 Crucial 32 GB
6. SSD: 1TB WD SN580 NVMe SSD
7. Display: 27 inch Alienware AW2725DM
8: Heat Sink: Deepcool AG 400 CPU
9. CPU Case: Corsair 3500

 

[maverick786us]

Right now I am using ordinary keyboard and mouse from HP. Next month when I get my paycheck I will buy gaming keyboard and mouse. What else can I do to make it better?

 

[zandor]

Right now I am using ordinary keyboard and mouse from HP. Next month when I get my paycheck I will buy gaming keyboard and mouse. What else can I do to make it better?

Short of swapping out stuff you already bought, maybe get in on the next batch of RatPadz? Super slick mouse pad and not a lot of $.

Decent mouse and keyboard are of course highly recommended. No need to get super fancy, but you at least need a side button or two on the mouse and a more resolution than a cheap HP mouse would be good. I like mouse that's a bit on the heavier side for a gaming mouse, but lightweight ones are ok. It's fine as long as the sensors are good. Keyboard is a bit more personal. Some people like the super responsive ones, others like a little more click. For gaming I don't like super responsive - I oops and press something I didn't mean to too much. I like the full strength clicky ones for work and typing, but a bit more responsive for gaming.

 

[maverick786us]

Short of swapping out stuff you already bought, maybe get in on the next batch of RatPadz? Super slick mouse pad and not a lot of $.

Decent mouse and keyboard are of course highly recommended. No need to get super fancy, but you at least need a side button or two on the mouse and a more resolution than a cheap HP mouse would be good. I like mouse that's a bit on the heavier side for a gaming mouse, but lightweight ones are ok. It's fine as long as the sensors are good. Keyboard is a bit more personal. Some people like the super responsive ones, others like a little more click. For gaming I don't like super responsive - I oops and press something I didn't mean to too much. I like the full strength clicky ones for work and typing, but a bit more responsive for gaming.

How is this?

 

[maverick786us]

Has anyone tried these settings with his PC?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tech...1&cvid=68e3a85d2ef94347902ec09df708304b&ei=36

I know my gaming PC also sounds like a jet engine, but I won't mind the sound as long as it keeps CPU and GPU temperature under 45 degrees at its peak performance.
Talking about enabling resizable bar. I don't find that settings in my motherboard BIOS

 

[pendragon1]

I'm actually really annoyed right now.

I just went to see if theres Z5 EPYC's out RN, the only thing relatively close is like a PX chip thats 700 bucks, but at least its stock clock is up to 5.7.

Still WTF AMD

yeah, because epycs arent normal desktop chips and zen 5 ones just came out.

 

[X8XFoundries]

Has anyone tried these settings with his PC?

ReBAR is mostly for VM crap, or if you have an intel card. Turning it on won't hurt anything. If you get a NVIDIA GRID or AMD INSTINCT you need ReBAR to use it as a normal GPU.

I just noticed you are keeping a goal of 45. Are your fans all the way cranked? If they are, don't do that. You'll be blasting air into the glass and hoping smashing more makes it work. Think of it like the draw from the CPU or GPU fans makes the intake from the back wall have a curve when it blows in, and you want that curve to aim as close to the targets as possible. Like uhhhh.... like mario golf I guess LOL

How is this?

No lies go grab a legitech Triathlon M720, pop it open, add some washers. Its literally a G700s, its great. 20 bucks literally everywhere.

Next month when I get my paycheck I will buy gaming keyboard and mouse

Also keyboard wise, theres a lot of options to choose from, but the easiest thing is:

How fast do you normally type
Can you type blind
If you change key spacing (swap KB) does it f up your typing

Otherwise get whatever 40 dollar Wooting clone you can find on amazon. They're as good as old Razer KB's like the BWidow TK 2016 I am using RN.

 

[X8XFoundries]

yeah, because epycs arent normal desktop chips and zen 5 ones just came out.

Yeah but I'd think thered at least be something? Intel usually the server chips pop out first.

Oh well lol he already has the build.

 

[pendragon1]

Has anyone tried these settings with his PC?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tech...1&cvid=68e3a85d2ef94347902ec09df708304b&ei=36

I know my gaming PC also sounds like a jet engine, but I won't mind the sound as long as it keeps CPU and GPU temperature under 45 degrees at its peak performance.
Talking about enabling resizable bar. I don't find that settings in my motherboard BIOS

View attachment 758295

yes, its normally on by default now.
lol good luck with that 45c hope.

 

[X8XFoundries]

lol good luck with that 45c hope.

I editted my reply to him above. He can hit 45, but its going to be a bunch of tedium until he's got it balanced. Back wall fans are..... an interesting thing. Though the case literally being glass isn't going to help the noise worth a damn...

LOL Hey OP flip the fans around so the fans in the front are the exhaust and see what that does to your temps. Go complete negative pressure with the rear as the intake.

 

[pendragon1]

I editted my reply to him above. He can hit 45, but its going to be a bunch of tedium until he's got it balanced. Back wall fans are..... an interesting thing. Though the case literally being glass isn't going to help the noise worth a damn...

LOL Hey OP flip the fans around so the fans in the front are the exhaust and see what that does to your temps. Go complete negative pressure with the rear as the intake.

"45 at peak performance" aint going to happen, not without some major custom cooling.
its like the blind leading the blind...

 

[X8XFoundries]

"45 at peak performance" aint going to happen, not without some major custom cooling.

I mean its still likely to rest at 65C like my 3900X did but hey might as well give it a shot.

its like the blind leading the blind...

Go eat a snickers, you're not the same without a snack /s

 

[maverick786us]

ReBAR is mostly for VM crap, or if you have an intel card. Turning it on won't hurt anything. If you get a NVIDIA GRID or AMD INSTINCT you need ReBAR to use it as a normal GPU.

I just noticed you are keeping a goal of 45. Are your fans all the way cranked? If they are, don't do that. You'll be blasting air into the glass and hoping smashing more makes it work. Think of it like the draw from the CPU or GPU fans makes the intake from the back wall have a curve when it blows in, and you want that curve to aim as close to the targets as possible. Like uhhhh.... like mario golf I guess LOL


No lies go grab a legitech Triathlon M720, pop it open, add some washers. Its literally a G700s, its great. 20 bucks literally everywhere.


Also keyboard wise, theres a lot of options to choose from, but the easiest thing is:

How fast do you normally type
Can you type blind
If you change key spacing (swap KB) does it f up your typing

Otherwise get whatever 40 dollar Wooting clone you can find on amazon. They're as good as old Razer KB's like the BWidow TK 2016 I am using RN.

My fans are fine, those fans sound like hair drier in a quiet environment from the very first day. But like i said I won't mind the sound, the only problem is those sound gives some feeling of dust gathering around the motor, which isn't the case. I am OK if the temperature goes above 45 degree as long as it doesn't degrade the life of the CPU.

 

[X8XFoundries]

My fans are fine, those fans sound like hair drier in a quiet environment from the very first day. But like i said I won't mind the sound, the only problem is those sound gives some feeling of dust gathering around the motor, which isn't the case. I am OK if the temperature goes above 45 degree as long as it doesn't degrade the life of the CPU.

nah it won't

 

[maverick786us]

I editted my reply to him above. He can hit 45, but its going to be a bunch of tedium until he's got it balanced. Back wall fans are..... an interesting thing. Though the case literally being glass isn't going to help the noise worth a damn...

LOL Hey OP flip the fans around so the fans in the front are the exhaust and see what that does to your temps. Go complete negative pressure with the rear as the intake.

I don't have any fans on front panel. My Corsair 3500X came with 3 120MM RGB fans fitted on the right panel from where it exhaust air and I have a fan that came with heat sink that is faced towards front. The front of the cases left panel are made of tempered glass, so there is no possibility of fans. The rear of the case has slot for a 200MM fan a 120MM fan and there are slots for 3 120MM fans on the bottom.

 

[maverick786us]

ReBAR is mostly for VM crap, or if you have an intel card. Turning it on won't hurt anything. If you get a NVIDIA GRID or AMD INSTINCT you need ReBAR to use it as a normal GPU.

I just noticed you are keeping a goal of 45. Are your fans all the way cranked? If they are, don't do that. You'll be blasting air into the glass and hoping smashing more makes it work. Think of it like the draw from the CPU or GPU fans makes the intake from the back wall have a curve when it blows in, and you want that curve to aim as close to the targets as possible. Like uhhhh.... like mario golf I guess LOL


No lies go grab a legitech Triathlon M720, pop it open, add some washers. Its literally a G700s, its great. 20 bucks literally everywhere.


Also keyboard wise, theres a lot of options to choose from, but the easiest thing is:

How fast do you normally type
Can you type blind
If you change key spacing (swap KB) does it f up your typing

Otherwise get whatever 40 dollar Wooting clone you can find on amazon. They're as good as old Razer KB's like the BWidow TK 2016 I am using RN.

I already bought Corsair M55 gaming mouse and Corsair K55 Core RGB keyboard. Being a software programmer for more than 20 years, I can type without looking into the keyboard on more than 95% occasions the only time I look into the keyboard is while typing number and symbols. I am not saying that I can type like a professional typist. So my typing speed is average. In keyboard it didn't matter if its pure gaming, so I don't know how a gaming keyboard will make the gaming easy. Unlike other PC components I didn't consider spending fortune on a keyboard. I have a game controller from GameSir. On games like GTA 5 I use keyboard and mouse when the player is walking and shooting and Game controller when the player is riding.

I use my PC not just for gaming but for other activities too. So it was important that the keyboard should have the numeric keypad.

Honestly I am not happy with this gaming mouse (Corsair M55), its small, its side buttons are hard to reach and I don't see anything that would distinguish this so called gaming mouse from an ordinary mouse. I think I will soon buy something big for my hands that more dedicated buttons. For me its comfortable to press mouse wheel as third button in games.