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rgraze911

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I currently use MS publisher and MS Expresions. Is there anything newer out there along these lines?
 
Not really. The world of desktop website publishing has pretty much dried up (for good reason). The future of easy web publishing is with server-side Content Management Systems like Drupal and Wordpress. If you're serious about it, set up Wordpress on your server and learn the ropes. It's not any more difficult than using Expressions to update your website.

If you absolutely must publish from the desktop, there's always Dreamweaver.
 
CEpeep said:
If you absolutely must publish from the desktop, there's always Dreamweaver.
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telling him to use WYSIWYG mode in DW :eek:

I have to add Joomla to that list as well.
It really depends on the type of site.
 
ripken204 said:
telling him to use WYSIWYG mode in DW :eek:

I have to add Joomla to that list as well.
It really depends on the type of site.
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Well, if he's using the web mode in Publisher right now, Dreamweaver is going to be a massive step up. I wasn't mentioning Drupal and Wordpress at the expense of other options, my recommendation was just for OP to explore what server-side content management systems have to offer. The truth is that just about any CMS is going to be better than managing a website in Publisher, Expressions or Dreamweaver.
 
I had setup a few sites for places that wanted a simple site awhile ago. I do IT work on the side and people wanted a site created for them and I told them it would be very simple since its not my forte. I am having issues with the sites not rendering properly in browsers other than IE also cant seem to get publisher to sync with remote site so I end up publishing the site to my computer then copy files to the hosting site,so I was gonna look into something new and simple. I'm a Desert storm vet so I created this one for my post. http://www.vfwpost725.org/
Also since I'm a fulltime firefighter this one for our MABAS Div 19. http://www.mabasdiv19.org/
 
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You can keep doing what you're doing with tools like Dreamweaver, Eclipse, Visual Studio Express, etc. But you may start seeing a pattern where changes take longer and longer, and you feel more like a middle-man to maintaining simple verbiage and uploading/updating files. This is the point where you want to consider switching over to a CMS. In fact, you may be surprised with the options available on many CMS's.

My suggestion is to get to know a CMS platform by porting an existing website to it. Don't overwrite the existing production website, just throw up a CMS on some side/development environment and experiment with it while one of your websites as a template on what to recreate/redesign.
 
I must have missed the memo. People don't manually code their websites anymore? Or do they code them and then turn it over to CMS software so end users can update them?
 
Forealz said:
I must have missed the memo. People don't manually code their websites anymore? Or do they code them and then turn it over to CMS software so end users can update them?
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Layouts are still built by hand (usually). Making a CMS template doesn't take much more work than making a regular HTML/CSS design and saves a monumental amount of work in the future. Unless your needs are incredibly simple, there's not much reason not to use a CMS these days.
 
rgraze911 said:
So which CMS would a novice like me look into?
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3 excellent CMSes have already been mentioned in this thread

Forealz said:
Can I embed a CMS template into a site I handcode with css, html5 and js?
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Kind of... you need to do some work to your html, mainly you need to add php code specific to the CMS so that dynamic parts of the website show up automatically when you change it in the CMS

for example, you need to put the code for the menu into a menu template
this is assuming that you want to be able to edit the menu options within the CMS

another example is your page layouts, you need a template for your page
a simple page template might have some code to display the header, the content, the date


CEpeep said:
Layouts are still built by hand (usually). Making a CMS template doesn't take much more work than making a regular HTML/CSS design and saves a monumental amount of work in the future. Unless your needs are incredibly simple, there's not much reason not to use a CMS these days.
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Depends, I use CMSes and I hard code sites depending on the purpose.
imo, I only like CMSes for simple sites. for complex sites I hard code because a CMS tends to get in the way of how I want to code.
for custom projects I tend to use CodeIgniter
 
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