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Looking for inexpensive power

pjkenned

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Hi all,

Been awhile. Bought a new house and then have been working on STH + the Tom's Hardware dual Xeon E5 piece posted today. If anyone noticed, I included F@H numbers although not an official TH test :)

One thought I have been kicking around is moving STH to a dual Xeon E5 box, and selling some of the additional (a lot of additional) capacity for web hosting/ VPS. That led me to look at co-location and I remembered nitrobass24's old suggestion that we buy 16 amps usable in a half cabinet ($400/ month) or full cabinet ($500/month) at colounlimited. Add $135/mo for another 8amps usable on either option. The idea is we get cheaper power and uploads/ downloads would likely be faster than at home and also not be not vying for bandwidth with Netflix and such.

My first question is, did anyone actually do this? If not, is there a group looking into it? Due to power costs a 420w (peak) dual Xeon E5 system would basically cost me $90/ mo at colounlimited, and that is pretty close to what I pay for incremental electricity when folding. Basically the half cabinet ends up being $0.26 or $0.30 kw/hr. Pretty sure it is ( (16A * 120V) / 1000) * (30 days * 24 hrs/ day) / $400) = $0.29 kw/hr or ( (24A * 120V) / 1000) * (30 days * 24 hrs/ day) / $535) = $0.26 kw/hr.

My average cost per kWh is $0.26 but incremental is higher so in theory it would make sense, especially once I have folding power consumption + A/C costs in the summer.

Just wondering, did anyone actually do or is looking into nitrobass24's suggestion? If so, any room?
 
If anyone noticed, I included F@H numbers although not an official TH test :)

Thats where the F@H numbers came from! :eek: Excuse me, where are my manners..


I'm Warmon6 from the tom's hardware folding team,

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/268010-28-folding-home-thgc-team-40051

We were trying to figure out why all the sudden without warning that f@h was in a hardware review.

What I'm shocked about is that you manage to do something (im guessing in a quick time) that my team has been trying to do for years. Getting F@H numbers in the review of hardware testing. :eek:

Well hopefully my team can get the authors at tom's doing this more often.

If it does stick, it would be all thanks to you. :eek:

(and you/the author did this at a perfect time as my team is try to create a sub forum for the team instead of being stuck in a 90+ page thread)


Although sorry i cant comment on your question. I'm not aware of anybody doing this "as of yet".

If i find something, i'll get back to you.

Edit:

Wait...... are you and the author.... one and the same? If so i feel pretty stupid now for not seeing this before now..... lol
 
Edit:

Wait...... are you and the author.... one and the same? If so i feel pretty stupid now for not seeing this before now..... lol

:) Yes. I actually want to keep this in any of these types of articles I do aside from anything the vPro one I did last year. I do not do "mainstream" CPU coverage so this is unlikely to be something that goes into every review. I do like the fact that it is a pretty decent "real world" application.

BTW: http://www.servethehome.com/dual-intel-xeon-e52690-update-power-consumption-foldinghome/

I do keep numbers on most of the MP configs I look at.
 
I looked at colo briefly when I started my gpu farm, and granted gpu is a different kind of beast.

The colo guys took one look at my home built hardware and shut me down. They want to see nice shiny easily understood servers that just plug in and go. Plus I was going to need frequent access to their premises and I was going to put out a lot of heat, more than they were comfortable with. It was a non-starter.

My two cents.

Atlas Folder
 
I've got $.09 a KWh here.

The heat during the summer is a bummer, but the cost to run isn't that bad. During the winter I easily chop my heating bill in half. so it equals out.

If my power was more expensive.... I would think about it. One of the benefits of living 10 mile away from a couple power plants.
 
One of the reasons I sold off my SR-2 is 31cent per kWh at >200% usage we have here in SLO. And I'm about 10miles from Diablo Canyon.
 
One of the reasons I sold off my SR-2 is 31cent per kWh at >200% usage we have here in SLO. And I'm about 10miles from Diablo Canyon.

You have too many hippies near you.....

The more hippies, the higher the kWh.
 
One of the reasons I sold off my SR-2 is 31cent per kWh at >200% usage we have here in SLO. And I'm about 10miles from Diablo Canyon.

Yea the low rates in CA are a few cents per kWh. Once you get to a more normal rate, you are at $0.30+
 
colo is probably going to be more trouble and $$$ than its worth...

are you spending more than $500/month in power?

also jealous of people with a winter... our winter was like a week this year... A/C runs 350~ days a year down here!
 
I'm spending about $300/ mo in power with no A/C on. Then again STH requires a bit of juice to run.

nitrobass24 had the idea that we could get a few people together and split the costs. Even 4U servers would work in a full/ half cabinet.
 
What we need is a F@H "data center" somewhere in Washington state, run by one of our crew. I think that the numbers would work out better this way, especially for folks with high electricity costs.
 
Now if you can do it around the holidays with a neighbor that has a massive Christmas light display....

You have a couple months of golden opportunity there :cool:

*Neither myself or team 33 endorses the above actions
 
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