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Looking for 1U Server Suggestions

l008com

l008com

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Greetings. I'm in an odd situation. I'm a Mac guy that's always run Mac servers. My current server is a 1U Apple Xserve but it's getting pretty old, and really needs to be retired. So I need a 1U replacement. I've never bought a non-Apple server before and haven't really been able to find what I want.

What I want is essentially an Apple Xserve, that's current. So a 1U server that takes three 3.5" hard drives, has dual hot swap power supplies, ideally built in graphics, and "modern" CPU and RAM. I'm having trouble finding anything like this.

This server is mainly a web server, with some low volume email too.My current server is an 8 core 3ghz xeon that is basically idle all the time. It doesn't take much power to make an optimized mysql query, gzip 4kb of HTML, and send it one it's way.

I've seen lots of mini 1U servers that are under $1000. That's a very good fit for what I need, but none of them seem to have the dual power supplies, or three 3.5" drives. It's either two 3.5" drives or three+ 2.5"s.
 
I have a couple of questions for you,

How do you plan on running the apple os like a hackentosh or on VMware like esxi?

Also are you okay with a GPU in the 1030 GTX range? Because on a 1u system you are really limited to a single slot GPU or what's on the CPU or motherboard.

This one looks like a potential fit minus the dual PS.

Supermicro SuperServer SYS-5019S-MT LGA1151

I would go with a 4c8t Xeon and the ram you need 32 or 64 and has 4 3.5 drive slots and maybe a m.2 potential depending on the board.
 
The plan is to hackintosh OS X on there. Because of that, I would be best off with a GPU that runs off the same drivers as some current Mac's GPU, although I hear nVidia is making Mac drivers available for all their GPUs these days. So an integrated nVidia GPU might be great. I still miss my 320m macbook pro.

And I agree, aside from the lack of dual power supplies, that server doesn't look too bad.
 
I noticed a lot of socket 1151 servers say they can take Xeons or core i3s. Does that mean any core-i family, or specifically just the i3s, and not the i5s or i7s? A quad core i5 would probably make a great server CPU for the kind of load I expect.
 
Well I think the 1151 Xeon chipset can take the regular 1151 chips but a z270 cannot take the xeons. This was not the case with 1150 sockets or the 2011 \ v3s, as I have a xeons e3 in a z97 board. Gotta love Intel's greed
 
Even the specific server you suggested says this on it's specs:

  • Single Socket H4 (LGA 1151) supports:
  • Intel® Xeon® processor E3-1200 v6/v5,
    Intel® 7th/6th Gen Core™ i3
  • CPU TDP up to 45W, 80W option fan
 
l008com said:
The plan is to hackintosh OS X on there.
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Ugh, why? For a bog-standard web server having to deal with the pain of setup and upkeep of a hackintosh is a bad idea.

Get something like rhansen5_99 posted, throw on Linux, and learn to set up web services on it. Better yet, install some sort of virtualization environment (Proxmox works well) and run Linux in a guest VM or container. Set up other VMs to play with/learn other stuff.

I get that you're a Mac guy. So am I (kinda). But right tool for the job. Use a Mac for laptop or workstation.

Also, are you sure you want/need a 1U system? Anything better than some anemic Atom system is probably going to be at least a little loud.

If you're not sure, maybe go used. Something like this should work fine for a basic Linux or VM server.


l008com said:
I noticed a lot of socket 1151 servers say they can take Xeons or core i3s. Does that mean any core-i family, or specifically just the i3s, and not the i5s or i7s? A quad core i5 would probably make a great server CPU for the kind of load I expect.
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i3 only. It has to do with ECC RAM support (which Intel seems to have randomly left in the i3 but not the higher chips for whatever screwball reason).
 
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I'm a Mac guy, not sort of. Learning linux is a lot more work than using the OS i've been using for 19 years. I know all of the ins and outs, and it will work seamlessly with all of my other Macs. The only issue is the Hackintosh-ness. So deal with hackintosh issues, or learn to admin a linux server from scratch. Easy choice, hackintosh it is.

I'm sure the data center is used to customer's servers being loud, I don't think it's going to be an issue. And they charge $50 per U per month, so yes 1U is a must.
 
Ohh fun if these need ecc support CPUs watch out for some of the 7350 kabby lake guys as I think it got stripped out.

As far as OS, I have personally only messed with Mac in a VM environment but that can be a hassel. Linux on VMware esxi is way easier for me in a server env, or any virtualization environment, but it really depends on what you are trying to serve up, and if you need to spin up many different machines vs one mega server.
 
l008com said:
I'm a Mac guy, not sort of. Learning linux is a lot more work than using the OS i've been using for 19 years. I know all of the ins and outs, and it will work seamlessly with all of my other Macs. The only issue is the Hackintosh-ness. So deal with hackintosh issues, or learn to admin a linux server from scratch. Easy choice, hackintosh it is.

I'm sure the data center is used to customer's servers being loud, I don't think it's going to be an issue. And they charge $50 per U per month, so yes 1U is a must.
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Buy two if you need redundancy.

A hackintosh is a horrible idea for a customer needing a 24/7 server.
 
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