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Logitech G5

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Shmuckety

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I got the G5 as a gift. :D It's pretty cool. The cable to the PC is covered in fabric like old school.

It has an awesome paint job. I can't wait to go back to HL2 Deathmatach and get pwned in style. :p

Does anyone else have this? What do you think.

 
I got mine in the mail yesterday. Played with it briefly. Didn't really get to play with it until today. I have to say so far I like it better than any mouse I've ever owned or used. Currently that includes most of the MX series. MX500, 510, and 518. I've also got an MX1000 and I can tell you the G5 is better than all of them. The customizable weight system is a nice touch, and the rougher surface makes alot more sense than the glossy surface of the MX510 and MX518.
 
Yea, I played with it for an hour and the rough surface makes it easier to hang on to. Your hand doesn't slide around on the mouse at all. ;)
 
Yeah, it rocks...wierd paint job. It kinda looks dirty, but it is interesting.
 
Anyone know when this thing is going to be available in stores?
 
I got mine today, haven't had a chance to actually play with it yet (at work). Everything seems great on it, though. Well, almost everything. Just as some of the early reviews from a bit ago said, the middle mouse button doesn't feel very good being pushed down, but with the addition of side scrolling (and being able to bind side scroll to buttons) it isn't a big deal. I'll just use middle scroll left and right and forget about middle mouse ;)
 
The middle mouse button is not that bad, but it is a little harder to push down.
 
It's harder to press down and it just doesn't "feel right." It feels very sloppy, too...mushy. I still like the mouse, though ;)
 
yhamez said:
It's harder to press down and it just doesn't "feel right." It feels very sloppy, too...mushy. I still like the mouse, though ;)
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Yeah, I don't like how the middle mouse button feels, but honestly with the side buttons, on the MX500/510/518 I never really used the middle mouse button that much. So as a result, I think that I can live with this being this way. I like everything else real well.
 
those 2 thumb buttons made the mx series.......i think ill get the mx518.......tho i really want the wireless g7 is it?

but 100 bucks for a mouse is very unjustified.......

speicaly the keyboard.......anyone think that keyboard looks like it came from the 1970's big ole computer room and you have this weird boxy keyboard :p

btw.......is there a keyboard with no lag once so ever and still alows more than 3 keys to be held down at same time? :p not to thread hijack btw

soulsaver
 
Well I just received mine. Awesome mouse, I bought it to repalce my Intellimouse Explorer 1.0a since my intellimouse didn't like my recently purchased 2nd Gen Blue Icemat very much (it was always jittery etc.) So I bought this one to replace the Intellimouse and now the G5 won't even work on it, lol. So it looks like I'm keeping the mouse and getting rid of the Icemat, it just doesn't like any of the Optical mice that I do. It works awesome though when I turn the Icemat over though. Only been playing with it for a few minutes though, unfortunately I got off work at 12am and go back in at 7am so I'll have to wait until tomorrow afternoon to really play with it.
 
Shmuckety said:
Yea, I played with it for an hour and the rough surface makes it easier to hang on to. Your hand doesn't slide around on the mouse at all. ;)
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protip: if you wipe the cheetos off your fingers with a napkin before you grab the mouse your fingers won't slide around, either.
 
Serious question here. For those who play CS:S, is there a noticable difference when you use the mouse? Does it improve score? I'm just trying to justify buying it or is it just cool b/c it's laser and feels comfortable, but doesn't really do anything to improve gaming performance.
 
jwlam said:
Serious question here. For those who play CS:S, is there a noticable difference when you use the mouse? Does it improve score? I'm just trying to justify buying it or is it just cool b/c it's laser and feels comfortable, but doesn't really do anything to improve gaming performance.
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No mouse will ever give you magically higher scores. There aren't that many differences. The main reason to go with a mouse like this is mostly personal preference. If its more comfortable and you find it's features usefull, then its something you should look at purchasing. It can enhance your gaming experience, but I wouldn't bet on your scores changeing much if at all.

But I wouldn't expect the mouse to make a bad player good and a good player excellent. Mice are mice when you come down to it. I am just as effective and score just as well with a MX500 as I would with the G5.
 
I got the chance to play for a couple of hours with it last night (bf2). I'm still not a fan of the middle mouse button, but it's usable. The problem with it is that it is a bit stiff, but if you push down too hard on it to get it to work you end up pressing the middle mouse button and hitting scroll left, which is where the sloppy feel comes from.

I wouldn't give up the side scroll, though...use it for weapon changes ;D
 
Sir-Fragalot said:
...But I wouldn't expect the mouse to make a bad player good and a good player excellent. Mice are mice when you come down to it. I am just as effective and score just as well with a MX500 as I would with the G5.
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I think this mouse gave me an extra +1 kill per 15 minutes overall. If you buy this mouse you will have similar results, really :rolleyes:

For real though I like how this mouse feels better than my mx1000. I got owned pretty good though. :D

Also I would like to mention that unlike Sir-F I can score with or without a mouse...I am that good. :p

 
Sir-Fragalot said:
No mouse will ever give you magically higher scores. There aren't that many differences. The main reason to go with a mouse like this is mostly personal preference. If its more comfortable and you find it's features usefull, then its something you should look at purchasing. It can enhance your gaming experience, but I wouldn't bet on your scores changeing much if at all.

But I wouldn't expect the mouse to make a bad player good and a good player excellent. Mice are mice when you come down to it. I am just as effective and score just as well with a MX500 as I would with the G5.
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I used to own at Q2 with the original MS Intellimouse
 
Sir-Fragalot said:
No mouse will ever give you magically higher scores. There aren't that many differences. The main reason to go with a mouse like this is mostly personal preference. If its more comfortable and you find it's features usefull, then its something you should look at purchasing. It can enhance your gaming experience, but I wouldn't bet on your scores changeing much if at all.

But I wouldn't expect the mouse to make a bad player good and a good player excellent. Mice are mice when you come down to it. I am just as effective and score just as well with a MX500 as I would with the G5.
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I think you guys are missing the question. Take for example, if you had used a traditional mouse with a ball movement ball underneath and then switched to an optical mouse, i'd say that you're CS score will improve regardless of who you are and your skill level just due to accuracy and reaction time. So, is the gain from optical to laser mouse the equivalent of moving from ball mouse to optical?
 
jwlam said:
I think you guys are missing the question. Take for example, if you had used a traditional mouse with a ball movement ball underneath and then switched to an optical mouse, i'd say that you're CS score will improve regardless of who you are and your skill level just due to accuracy and reaction time. So, is the gain from optical to laser mouse the equivalent of moving from ball mouse to optical?
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CS is all about consistancy. That's why most pros still play with the MS 1.1SE and the 3.0. They're old technology (compared to the new mice), but it's what they are used to.



I'm waiting for the all black G7. It's so nice...
 
I've been using this basic logitech mouse for 4 years now. Until it lets me down, I doubt i'll change. I tried going to the microsoft intellimouse 4.0 but the tracking sucked and felt cheap. I've thought about getting a razer plasma because of the simliar shape, but then I think about it and there's truely no reason to for me. I play DoD and I can do pretty well with this mouse. I think that comfort and fimiliarity is going to be better than any number of DPI or tracking method.

 
Nice mouse i must say, but if anybody thinks its more accurate than anything made after the ms3.0a they're just getting a nice phat placebo effect :p

That said, comfort wise its probably the best out there, cept maybe the ms3.0a heh.

To those wondering if itll get you more kills in CS, well....if you already own an optical mouse (ms3.0a, mx500, 510, 518, 310, diamondback or anything else made after ms3.0a) then it probably wont, unless the added comfort (if not an MX series) helps you.

Something interesting to note: MX1000s (which i think have the same laser as the G5) skip on icemats but MS3.0a, diamondbacks and the corded optical MX series dont, shows you that accuracy isnt everything.
 
jwlam said:
I think you guys are missing the question. Take for example, if you had used a traditional mouse with a ball movement ball underneath and then switched to an optical mouse, i'd say that you're CS score will improve regardless of who you are and your skill level just due to accuracy and reaction time. So, is the gain from optical to laser mouse the equivalent of moving from ball mouse to optical?
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I don't think so. I am as deadly with a ball mouse as I am an optical. The reason I upgrade mice, is for features and ergonomics. That and I've occasionally wore out some or they've gotten damaged moving or whatever.

Sure a optical mouse might make me better by about small amount due to precision being a factor.. But once I am used to a mouse, that's it. Doesn't matter what mouse it is as long as it isn't total crap and behaves erratically. Even the lag with the MX1000 doesn't affect my game too much. What used to get me about that mouse and other wireless mice, was the erratic behavior they'd sometimes get. Granted I had to learn how to compensate for the lag, and I am sure that I am little better with the G5, but against a ball mouse or any other good mouse that doesn't lag, I don't think it makes the huge difference people claim it does. Give me an MX1000 and a few minutes to get used to it, and I think my scores would be close to what they'd be otherwise. Give me any corded mouse that isn't a lagging erratic pile of shit, and the same is true. The MX1000's lag is an extreme example of a mouse that doesn't behave like other mice, by a long shot. Still I can game with it about as well as anything else. The difference there is minor.

I've owned and gamed with the fallowing mice I can remember:

Microsoft P/S 2 Mouse. (The ergonomic one without the scoll wheel and the fat ass.)
Logitech Mouseman
Logitech Wingman Extreme (Mouse)
Microsoft Intellemouse Optical 2.0
Logitech MX500
Logitech MX510
Logitech MX518
Logitech MX1000
Logitech G5

Mice I don't own but have used frequently on other PC's:
Logitech MX300
Logitech MX310
Logitech MX700
The list goes on.

I think people overestimate the differences between one mouse or another. I've been pretty good and competetive at lans and on the internet in most FPS's from the original Doom to UT2004, Quake III and everything else.

If you suck and can't score, its not your mouse that's the problem. It's you.

ZOMGWTFBBQ said:
Nice mouse i must say, but if anybody thinks its more accurate than anything made after the ms3.0a they're just getting a nice phat placebo effect :p

That said, comfort wise its probably the best out there, cept maybe the ms3.0a heh.

To those wondering if itll get you more kills in CS, well....if you already own an optical mouse (ms3.0a, mx500, 510, 518, 310, diamondback or anything else made after ms3.0a) then it probably wont, unless the added comfort (if not an MX series) helps you.

Something interesting to note: MX1000s (which i think have the same laser as the G5) skip on icemats but MS3.0a, diamondbacks and the corded optical MX series dont, shows you that accuracy isnt everything.
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I'd agree for the most part. I hated the MS Intellemouse Explorers. They were too huge for my tastes and their ergonomics left much to be desired.

The MX1000 does NOT have the same laser as the G5 and G7. It's the same technology, but the MX1000 only runs about 800DPI and it's report rate on the USB port or PS/2 port is only 1/5th of the G5 and G7. After adjusting the PS/2 report rate, you might can add another 5th to its report rate, but still its no where near what it is for the G5.

The bottom line is, if you buy this mouse thinking it will improve your game dramatically, you're going to be dissapointed. These mice are alot better on paper. Only PAPER!. The truth of the matter is, you can't likely tell the difference between a mouse that runs at 1600DPI and one that's 2000DPI. Buy one of these mice if you are compelled to do so by the features they offer. I like the weight system for one thing, the ergonomics are improved in my eyes from the MX510 and MX518 which had a glossy finish my hands would sometimes slip on after hours of gameplay. The G5 has a rougher no gloss surface and a textured rubberized grip. So the G5 was a good upgrade for me based on its new features. I also for one like the button placement better, and I found that the second buttons on MX series mice, were somewhat hard to reach and uncomfortable and I never used them that much. The G5 not having that button is fine by me. So I am happy with my purchase.
 
cept one thing... as you argue that the differences between many mice are close to impossible to notice... the same holds true with this supposed "lag" that the mx1000 gets...

i see no lag whatsoever!
 
Just a note if anyone has a Micro Center nearby, they have the G5 in stock and that's where I just got mine today.
 
alphakry said:
cept one thing... as you argue that the differences between many mice are close to impossible to notice... the same holds true with this supposed "lag" that the mx1000 gets...

i see no lag whatsoever!
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I do. I've owned two of them and have one of them on my desk right now. I like them for general use, even though I can feel the lack of actual precision compared to the MX510/MX518 and G5 mice. Even my old MX500 feels more precise than the MX1000.

The MX1000 is better than every other wireless mouse I've used. Some people notice the lag, some don't. If I were to use your mouse, I will feel it. If I were to sit in your house, and point out the lag, or actually show you how to see it. You'd hate it from then on out.

Really. I didn't notice it on the MX1000 at first either. Then I tried a friends MX510 when he had his PC over at my house for lan games. I had to help him with a minor technical issue, and I noticed the precision and accuracy of the MX510. After that point, I always noticed the MX1000's lag. I ditched the MX1000 about two days later as a gaming mouse.
 
I have owned an MX700, MX1000, and currently am using a Razer Diamondback on my gaming PC. The 700 was losing its little feet there, but the 1000 was out, so I bought that. That was decidedly too heavy for my cat-like reflexes to take full effect ( :D :p ). I bought this Razer when I got my new computer. On the other hand, I think it's too light. Would it be better for me to get the G7 or G5? I like the wireless part of the G7 (cords bug me for the most part), and as long as it's around the weight of an MX700, I'd be all over it. Or the G5, w/ fully customizeable weights? I've loved my wireless jobbies up until this Razer, and I'm kind of looking for more feedback. That and lasers are sexy. =)

BTW, I'm not too worried about scores. I almost always lead the charts in CoD and UO, in about 20 minutes with 60+ kills on a rifles only server. So it's not just that, but the too-light mouse is somewhat inconsistant.

And I'll need a new mousepad. Any suggestions? Sexy is good? (ie. glass =))
 
Project_2501 said:
I have owned an MX700, MX1000, and currently am using a Razer Diamondback on my gaming PC. The 700 was losing its little feet there, but the 1000 was out, so I bought that. That was decidedly too heavy for my cat-like reflexes to take full effect ( :D :p ). I bought this Razer when I got my new computer. On the other hand, I think it's too light. Would it be better for me to get the G7 or G5? I like the wireless part of the G7 (cords bug me for the most part), and as long as it's around the weight of an MX700, I'd be all over it. Or the G5, w/ fully customizeable weights? I've loved my wireless jobbies up until this Razer, and I'm kind of looking for more feedback. That and lasers are sexy. =)

BTW, I'm not too worried about scores. I almost always lead the charts in CoD and UO, in about 20 minutes with 60+ kills on a rifles only server. So it's not just that, but the too-light mouse is somewhat inconsistant.

And I'll need a new mousepad. Any suggestions? Sexy is good? (ie. glass =))
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Well, the G5 is an excellent mouse. It is designed for the gamer. The G7 shares some of it's features, but of course isn't targetted at that market. It's designed to build on the technology of the MX1000 and the MX700 as well. It uses the same body, and button configuration as the G5.

Really, I am willing to bet that it will have the same noticeable lag the MX1000 does, although on paper it has 5 times the reporting rate of the MX1000. Which I would think should cover it. Also the transmitter is a full 2.4GHz. Which might just do the trick. I'll try one and see more than likely. I'll let you guys know when I get one if it its worth it over the G5.
 
Sir-Fragalot said:
Well, the G5 is an excellent mouse. It is designed for the gamer. The G7 shares some of it's features, but of course isn't targetted at that market. It's designed to build on the technology of the MX1000 and the MX700 as well. It uses the same body, and button configuration as the G5.

Really, I am willing to bet that it will have the same noticeable lag the MX1000 does, although on paper it has 5 times the reporting rate of the MX1000. Which I would think should cover it. Also the transmitter is a full 2.4GHz. Which might just do the trick. I'll try one and see more than likely. I'll let you guys know when I get one if it its worth it over the G5.
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Actually the entire G series is specifically aimed at Gamers. The G5 and the G7 are identical in specs, just one is wireless and hideously colored.
 
Sir-Fragalot said:
I'll try one and see more than likely. I'll let you guys know when I get one if it its worth it over the G5.
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i'de be interested in your opinion and how soon you would do this! i would even send you my mx1000 to borrow in the event you don't have one ready to compare.
 
alphakry said:
i'de be interested in your opinion and how soon you would do this! i would even send you my mx1000 to borrow in the event you don't have one ready to compare.
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I own an MX500, MX510, MX518, MX1000 and a G5 currently.
 
I just my G5 today, i love the feel of it so far. Anyways, does anyone else's g5 NOT glow red at the bottom? I thought there would be a red laser dot but there no glow at all on my g5.
 
HybridHB said:
I just my G5 today, i love the feel of it so far. Anyways, does anyone else's g5 NOT glow red at the bottom? I thought there would be a red laser dot but there no glow at all on my g5.
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It finally showed up for sale at ZZF on Wednesday so I ordered then. FedEx tracking indicates it should be delivered today. Lucky for me my wife has the day off so she can take delivery of it. :D I'm glad I got it before the weekend so I can give it a good workout.

Maybe the laser is IR? :confused:
 
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