Logitech G19 Mini Review

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Well, another week, another review.....

Today, I was the happy recipient of the new Logitech G19 Gaming Keyboard.

I also have to again apologize for the quality of the pics, I'm really not much of a photographer, but I hope they give you the idea!

This is NOT going to be a long drawn out review of a keyboard. Let's face it, we know what they look like and we know what they're supposed to do. I'm going to give you my impressions of this new keyboard, and some of the super duper cool features it has...

First, let me start by saying that this keyboard is mis-titled. It should be called the G19 Gaming and Multimedia keyboard. It does soooo much more than just show how many bullets you have left in your current weapon of choice.

Look, no picture of a keyboard box....sorry. It came in a box, it said Logitech G19 gaming keyboard. It was in Logitech's usual teal and white. Nothing new here!!!

Upon opening the package, I was surprised to find not only the keyboard and install CD, but a power cord. Nothing I'd read about this keyboard had said anything about a 110v wall plug. I know the very first thing I thought was...damn, another plug!! Then, it dawned on me what the benefit of this is to me. I can use it to charge my phone and iPod while my computer is off!! It actually gets RID of two plugs!! Besides powering the USB 2.0 plugs on the keyboard, the plug also powers the LCD screen, as today's USB ports don't have enough power to run this display.

Speaking of the display. I've come from the G15 keyboard, which I've had for about two years now, and let me tell you, it's beautiful. There's nothing else to say about it. Well, ok there is, it's bright, has great contrast, fantastic colors, and displays EVERYTHING that my G15 did, without any software changes at all. I plugged it in and away it went!! Then there's all the little things that it does that the old one couldn't, like display videos, show pictures, and play movie files. I really have no idea what the point of this is, but, it does it. I guess it's like a screen saver...pointless (on an LCD) but cool. More on the display later.....

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Let's take a look at the keyboard itself. As you can see, it's a very similar layout to the G15, but look closer. For one thing, this one is MUCH smaller, there's only two rows of "G" macro keys, and because of the new layout and screen, the keyboard is also not as deep as the old one. The keyboard feels very well made, just as well as the MX5500 (the best office keyboard IMO). This is one of those things you can't really describe, it just feels nice, solid, well built.

The keys are all backlit, and you can change the color of the backlighting. There's a number of different colors available, blue, red, orange, yellow, green, white, and strangely, my favorite, purple. For those of you who were hoping that the new keys would light up a room, I'm sorry to tell you, they don't, which is a good thing. They're just bright enough for late night frag sessions in a dark room. You'll always be able to find your keys in a dark or dimly lit room. For those of you who haven't played on a keyboard with backlit keys, let me tell you, this makes gaming much easier in a dark environment. No more looking for that one elusive key when you need it...You can put away your little flashlights now.

I guess the main purpose of the keyboard is supposed to be typing (although gamers would argue that), and here you won't be disapointed. The keys make a nice thunk thunk thunk sound as you type, they have just enough resistance, and everything is just where it's supposed to be. I know this is a short paragraph for the main purpose of a keyboard, but really, what else can I say? It's really nice to type on. A vast improvement from the G15, that's for sure.

There is one thing you won't need with this keyboard, thankfully, the goofy wrist rest thing. I always found that the one that came with the G15 way to flimsy. But I needed it for the G15, not so with the G19. It doesn't feel like there's anything missing if you don't use it.

Ok, let's move on to the macro keys.... There are two rows of them, with six in each row. So you get twelve macro keys. Above the macro keys are four buttons titled M1, M2, M3, and MR. You can map twelve functions to EACH of the M1, M2, and M3 keys...That's 36 macros in total. I have no idea how you could possibly remember that many, but, the option is there. There's also the MR key, this is for learning macros on the fly. Normally you'd program the macros via the control panel software. This key allows you to program while you're in a game. Very handy indeed for the WoW junkies out there!!

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Beside the macro key is the Gaming Switch (as I call it). This turns off the Windows key. What's the benefit of that you ask? Fire up a game and hit the Windows key...good times!! So, with this switch you disable the windows key, and you no longer have to worry about hitting that button in the middle of a very crucial tournament. This has happened to me, and I never heard the end of it. A simple flick of the switch would have prevented that problem. Needless to say, I always check to make sure it's disabled before I go into a game.

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Moving over just a little more, there's the transport keys. These are for use with the Youtube applet that's installed with the software. Now I can't give you much feedback on this as there's a small software glitch with my unit, and the buttons were not functioning. As soon as the problem is resolved, I'll give you some feedback on them.

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On the far right of the keyboard, above the number pad is where the pause/play, stop, next track, previous track buttons reside. And yup, they do exactly what you'd think they do. See, I just hit the next track button and skipped the crappy hair metal song that came up on iTunes (Poison for those that had to know!).

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Just below those buttons is the volume wheel and mute button. Volume "WHEEL" you ask? Well, Logitech has put a really slick little wheel on the keyboard to control the volume. And why is it all the way over to the right? Well, I'll tell you (at least my opinion of why). They used a wheel because it takes up less space than the old dial did. They put it on the right side so that it's easier to adjust the volume when you're playing a game. It's closer to your (most people's anyways) mouse hand. Pretty clever if you ask me. And I am a person who adjusts my volume while in a game. Some maps I play on are really quiet, others are just all out boom fests. Turn up the volume on the quiet ones, down on the loud ones....

So, what are my first impressions of this keyboard? Well, I love the fact that it's smaller than the previous model. It MIGHT even fit in a keyboard drawer now. I also like the powered USB plugs. I know it's shallow, but I love the bling factor of the LCD display. Is this completely nessecary for the hard core game? In a word, no. But let me tell you, it's alot easier to read than the old monochrome model that's for sure. It also displays a lot more information. With a 320 x 240 resolution, there's a lot of Everest info that can be displayed there.

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I only have one real negative to this keyboard. The cord. It's too stiff. This is nitpicking at it's best. But it really is quite stiff, it could have been made out of a softer rubber or something.

Oh, one more little thing. If you plan to take it to a lan party, get something to protect the screen. It's very high gloss and will scratch easily.

I've supplied a pic of the G19 lying on top of the G15 so you can see the difference in size. Smaller is better in this case!

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Some time this week I'll take some time and configure Everest and get some pics up of that.

Keep in mind this is just a very preliminary view of the keyboard. I really need to play with the LCD functions a bit to see what else it has in store for me.

But so far, even at $250 Canadian, this thing is a keeper...I know a lot of people out there are saying $250 for a keyboard? Are you bonkers? Maybe so, but this is my primary input device for my PC, and it's important to me. If $100 mice aren't out of the question, neither are $250 keyboards. Keep in mind also that $250 is list price, I think that street price will be closer to the $200 mark, but that's yet to be seen.

Up until now the G15 has been my second favorite computer upgrade peripheral thingy (next to my 30" monitor), and now the new G19 takes its place. I don't actually think it's twice as good as the G15, but it is a definite improvement. And hey, if you don't want to shell out the money yourself, there's always birthdays, and many other holidays that require lists. This should be on it.

So far, I give it a 9.5/10!!

If you've got the money, and you're looking at a new keyboard, this is a MUST HAVE!!!
 
I just bought it off ebay for $180 shipped. Your review is what convinced me to get it. It comes with no software though. Hopefully you can hook me up with that ;)

Anyway, thanks for the great review. The keys being a lot better than the old g15 is what really sold me on it.
 
Glad I could help.

As for the software...
For teamspeak:
http://www.schmads.com/
follow the links, download, and install. BOOM!

Ventrilo, it's under Global settings in the last tab.

Everest, you go to preferences and you tell it what you want the LCD to display.

There's also this site. All the plug ins for the G15 work on the G19, and they're much nicer looking!
http://www.g15mods.com/forum/
 
awesome review :). damn you you are making me want to buy this! :D :p :D

Thanks, I'm doing the best I can with the new products I'm getting my grubby little hands on!! LOL

I've never had any writing experience (or photography apparently!!), so this is all new to me!

If anyone has any questions about the products, I'd be happy to answer them if I can....
 
Fantastic little review! I've been considering an upgrade from my G15 mk II (orange) as soon as I saw the G19. As someone who uses the little mini-display constantly, I'm sure this will be a great upgrade for me.
 
In all honesty, let's face it, a keyboard is a keyboard. They're all QWERY, they all have F keys, and they all do basically the same thing. The Logitech G19 is just "Better". It's nicer to type on, the volume and media controls are something use all the time. It allows me to change music while playing a game (at least skip a track).

The display is something I've grown very accustomed to using. Often on Ventrilo there are 20 people in one chat, it's sometimes difficult to distiguish the voices. The display solves that problem.

Also, being able to see system temps on a high end rig is important, especially when you're gaming for hours on end. And being able to display all the info you could want from Everest is a blessing indeed....

So far I love this thing, and when my sample is due for return, I'll definitely buy one!!
 
After a bit of work, I got Everest to look like this on the G19

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That's about all the info I'd ever need while gaming!!
 
After a bit of work, I got Everest to look like this on the G19
That's about all the info I'd ever need while gaming!!

Pretty damn cool. I'm getting my G19 today. I'll post my impressions right here in this thread.
 
After a bit of work, I got Everest to look like this on the G19

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That's about all the info I'd ever need while gaming!!

Oh, that is HOT! I want this keyboard. Thanks for the review, it's the first that Ive seen for the G19.
 
I did what I could to secure one as early as possible from Logitech...Looks like it paid off...

Now if Kyle or Steve would just put my review on the front page I'd be really HAPPY :D:D
 
Nice I like my g11 and g15 and this looks nice. One day I will learn how to hook up lvds ttl screens and i will make my own lcd keyboard mwahahah!!
 
Thanks for the review. I wish it was cheaper, as the G15 is a Goliath and barely fits on my desk tray with the mouse pad next to it.
 
Volvor, i'm not sure if you read my pm, but do you think you could hook up the driver software? I'm not gonna use the KB till I somehow get the drivers for it.

I checked logitech's site, and they have the "LCD display" thing for the g19. Is that all that came with your driver software?

edit//yeah. Logitech has the drivers online. NVM.
 
Alright. Anyhow, *ignore my last post* I don't have much to add to what has been said. Volvor is pretty much correct in everything he said. The LCD panel on it looks great. The keyboard feels really well built, and typing on it is much improved from the g15.

I really only have one beef with the keyboard, the power cord easily disconnects from the keyboard if it's moved slightly, so I had to tape it to secure it. Other than that, the keyboard is pretty much perfect, and it actually looks better in real life.
 
The one thing that I have to ask about is the comfort factor. How is the wrist rest? Ant ergonomics at all? I've tried a couple of keyboards but I just can't pull mysef away from my Microsoft natural ergonamic 4000. It's just so comfortable, once you get used to it.

meh, I've owned at least 12 keyboards the past 2 years, and every keyboard feels comfortable once getting used to it after a few weeks. If you're interested in it, buy the g19, and you'll eventually get used to it. Anyhow, I do find it pretty comfortable.
 
I've tired it with the wrist rest on and off, and I have to take back my previous statement, it's actually better with it on.

Personally, the most comfortable keyboard I've used (believe it or not) is the Logitech Wave. I love the way that thing feels for long term typing. BUT, the G19 is a very close second.

I was playing COD4 last night for about 4 hours, and now that I've got all this info right in front of me, I'm not sure I could let this keyboard go...I love it. There is no question that this is the best keyboard I've ever owned, and I've had a lot of keyboards...
 
Volvor, i'm not sure if you read my pm, but do you think you could hook up the driver software? I'm not gonna use the KB till I somehow get the drivers for it.

I checked logitech's site, and they have the "LCD display" thing for the g19. Is that all that came with your driver software?

edit//yeah. Logitech has the drivers online. NVM.

Sorry I didn't get back to you...glad you found the drivers.

Just to clarify, if you're running a G15 now, there are no drivers at all. Just plug it in and go. The Setpoint software will detect which keyboard you're using. IF you happen to have two keyboards (such as the G13 and the G19), both will show up and you can configure both seperately.

It's pretty smart if you ask me...
 
Oh, sure, the "Other Guys" get the front page, and I was out of the gate a week earlier with my review...Not feeling the love here guys!! LOL
 
Soooo...

It's been a month with the G19, and let me tell you, this is an impressive keyboard. It's very comfortable, types very well, and I find that all the buttons and keys are where they should be. The display never fails to impress me with what can be done with it.

Also, the powered USB ports are my new best friend!!!

Has anyone had any experiences with this keyboard?
 
Nice review, but seems like you got it for free. I'm going to ignore the comment about how it's "worth" it. :p

So for others that actually paid street price for this keyboard: what is it about this keyboard that made you feel it is worth the price premium?

The AC adapter is a huge turn-off for me. Almost as bad as needing to plug a mouse into an outlet... I wonder how much juice this thing pulls if it requires its own outlet. I guess they couldn't just let it suckle off of two usb ports instead. :)
 
I ordered one as well off of dell, I am pretty excited to get it in the mail.

so far all their new peripherals have been pretty amazing. I purchased one of their G35 headsets, and it blows my sennheiser PC350s away
 
So with the G35s being USB and all, does it bypass the processing of the sound card? How do they work?
 
yea it doesn't run through the sound card at all, its processed into 7.1 through the software included.. apparently it gives 7.1 surround and DTS encoding(hype, in my opinion); mostly when I play games it really helps to tell if someone is behind me or not. they really are a pretty fantastic peripheral
 
Jacob, what other headphones have you used?

I'm currently using a $300 pair of Audio Technica (ATH-A900) headphones. They sound pretty amazing combined with an x-fi. But I'm assuming the positional audio reproduction is not as good at the G35's. So I'm just curious if you have used an x-fi with nice headphones....and if so, what is the comparison?
 
I have used the PC350s, Sennheiser HD595s and sennheiser HD650s

the PC350s I had hooked to the normal jacks on the front of my pc
HD595s hooked to a headphone amp
HD650s hooked to my amplifier in my living room

I think we are comparing apples and oranges here,
I have different headphones for different purposes. the G35 replaced my sennheiser PC350s as a gaming headset. they could be used in place of my HD595s but are nowhere near as musical, for gaming I think the directionality is more useful..
There is no way they are going to replace my HD650s

so, in summation, do the G35s work well for gaming headset? oh hell yes, better so than any gaming headset I have ever used,
but am I planning on using them for music listening? no way. I have other headphones for that. The G35 suffer from the same problem as other gaming headphones do, they are a little boomy on bass and portray high frequencies in a way that is exaggerated. However, this is perfect for gaming in my opinion. Explosions are loud, gunshots move around you and hearing people around you is something that can be done with other headphones, but the direction isn't always there. This is where the G35 excels. Not to mention, the mic is quite good with lots of software emulation for voice stuff

So, I have 3 sets of headphones sitting on my desk right now, the PC350s are going to the closet, the HD595s are there for music, and the G35 for gaming
 
Thanks Jacob.....that really helps clarify.

I've tried a multitude of "surround" headsets and have returned each and every one of them. Nice headphones combined with the x-fi far surpassed any of the "surround" headsets I tried. So, I was very skeptical of Logitech's offering, even though I love Logitech products. I think I will stop by Best Buy and give these cans a shot. But, I'll keep my ATH-A900's for Music.
 
I think you will be happy with them, given that you use them for their specific purpose.
 
Well I got my G19 today and so far the LCD has been fun to mess around with.

Here's my mini review

Keys:
If you didn't like the G15's key's you probably won't like the G19's. They are still the tall and sort of mushy kind. I prefer the keys that are about 3/4 the height like the Razer Tarantula or Logitech S510. The keys also feel a bit narrow. Like my hands feel closer together when on the "home row" than with the Razer Tarantula.

Back lit LED's:
Yes you can change them to any color you want using the Key Profiler app, but they really only work with few different colors. Light blue looks good, but regular blue looks just like purple to me. Red is also a bit orangish to me. White also looks a bit off, the keys seem tinted, which hurt the colors. This is when the room lights are on. With the lights off Red looks good, but blue is still a little purplish to me. The LED's seem a bit weak in comparision to the regular Logitech illuminated keyboard. Not all the lettering on some keys are covered like the top of the Caps lock and Tab keys aren't well lit. I also wish they didn't make the LCD controls and power LED's orange.

The quality:
For the most part the quality is good. The keyboard seems pretty durable. It uses regular plastic not the fancy shiny fake lacquer, which I think is good because that stuff gets dirty easily. The only really cheap part is the arm rest. I wish it was a bit less flimsy.

LCD:
It's a gimmick, but I love it. :p
It's neat to mess with and I like to use it for system info and even something as basic as a clock. I'm a little disappointed though that I couldn't get animated gifs to work in the picture viewer, but I guess I can make a video or something. The image quality of the screen is also pretty good. It makes YouTube look good since its so small. Maybe I'm missing something, but I wish you could turn the LCD off without turning the key lights off.

Size:
I'm glad its not as bulky as the old G15. No G key's on the right, but with three memory banks there are still plenty of keys for macros.

Price:
Yes its expensive, but we've seen more expensive keyboards. I got mine from dell w/15% off. Still expensive, but that's why I have a job (for now :( ).
 
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Got mine today as well,

good review.. love mine so far.. the keys are a little better than the previous G15 rev 1 and 2, they are a little quieter and they have a little better feel
 
Argh, ok, I bit and used the %15 off coupon. Well there goes my " I'll wait for it to get closer to $100" excuse, I guess $30 off was close enough. :) I bought the G15 as soon as it first came out, I was stalking the Logitech site for news on it when it was coming out, and I've been happy since. I can't wait to have a slightly smaller kb though, I don't need all of those macro keys.

VolvoR sold me on it though with his Everest screenshot, heh. I was worried how it would look on the G19, and now I know, it's even better.
 
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