that still doesn't mean anything. see the heatsinks are there to pull the heat and if they are cool to the touch then they aren't doing there job. but u need to send the computer in honestly if thats not it then it's to much of a probelm really to fix over the net. you need someone to come look at it are at least send it in. now for aruguments sake lets say that the sinks were both connected and working fine. Then that would mean that something is still gettting 200 degress so we just overlooked it. I wouldn't think it was faulty sensor like that. I would only think it was an issue if your computer had a problem which it does which leads me to think that the sensor is ok. Honestly you need to send it back in. there is no way around this.
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Lock Up Issue with all games
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MrWizard6600
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these threads are always frustraighting because I can't say "just let me do it".
My ACST training would have you do things in a very systematic method, but you dont have a quarter of the tools for me to suggest some of the stuff to actually repair the parts yourself.
That said, you're worried about breaking things when you shouldn't be. After the functional parts are put on a PCB its covered in an insulator, so its pretty hard for you to damage a component, furthermore even TTL logic levels dont give a high enough voltage for an arc to get across the grease on your finger --you could probably even lick the board and you'd be OK.
Along the same lines, no software program that's crafted with non-malicious intentions should be able to damage your hardware. If it does the company that manufactured the hardware (and the guy who decided to buy it) should be diciplined and the hardware replaced. So running a video card stress test and worrying about damaging your video card isn't a good idea. The part needs to be able to run 100% 24/7, which the silicon and supporting systems can and should be able to do. If they cant, they're defective and running it "hoping" you wont break it at a crucial moment isn't a good idea. To eliminate heat as an issue the best idea is to get your PC up to 100% TDP across the board and begin testing, if any part is damaged during this process I'd consider it defective from the start.
Anyways lets take a look at what we know:
It can run a small FTT CPU stress test just fine, so presumably all the CPU silicon is fine.
It cant decode video and it cant run any video games, which to me at least implys that (if we know the CPU logic is good), the problem is in memory.
Asuming the video being decoded isn't using something other then system cache, the problem is probably in ... well the system cache (IE memory).
But that assumes the data is making a safe journey off the hard drive, through the south bridge, through the northbridge, and into the CPU. It's entirely possible that either the southbridge or northbride isn't multiplexing properly.
so lets talk RMA:
Your best bet would be to RMA the motherboard (containing the northbridge... well not technically, if you speak in modern-CPU (Phenom II and Ci7) terms, the northbridge is on the CPU die, but we speak in pentium Pro (modern X86 architecture) terms, in which the northbridge is on the motherboard. Most motherboard manufacturers still call the first bridge on the board the Northbridge, even though technically it should be given another name)[where was I, right RMA the board] and the RAM at the same time. One of them's got the problem, the other doesn't but considering both will take roughly the same amount of time to RMA I'd do both.
My ACST training would have you do things in a very systematic method, but you dont have a quarter of the tools for me to suggest some of the stuff to actually repair the parts yourself.
That said, you're worried about breaking things when you shouldn't be. After the functional parts are put on a PCB its covered in an insulator, so its pretty hard for you to damage a component, furthermore even TTL logic levels dont give a high enough voltage for an arc to get across the grease on your finger --you could probably even lick the board and you'd be OK.
Along the same lines, no software program that's crafted with non-malicious intentions should be able to damage your hardware. If it does the company that manufactured the hardware (and the guy who decided to buy it) should be diciplined and the hardware replaced. So running a video card stress test and worrying about damaging your video card isn't a good idea. The part needs to be able to run 100% 24/7, which the silicon and supporting systems can and should be able to do. If they cant, they're defective and running it "hoping" you wont break it at a crucial moment isn't a good idea. To eliminate heat as an issue the best idea is to get your PC up to 100% TDP across the board and begin testing, if any part is damaged during this process I'd consider it defective from the start.
Anyways lets take a look at what we know:
It can run a small FTT CPU stress test just fine, so presumably all the CPU silicon is fine.
It cant decode video and it cant run any video games, which to me at least implys that (if we know the CPU logic is good), the problem is in memory.
Asuming the video being decoded isn't using something other then system cache, the problem is probably in ... well the system cache (IE memory).
But that assumes the data is making a safe journey off the hard drive, through the south bridge, through the northbridge, and into the CPU. It's entirely possible that either the southbridge or northbride isn't multiplexing properly.
so lets talk RMA:
Your best bet would be to RMA the motherboard (containing the northbridge... well not technically, if you speak in modern-CPU (Phenom II and Ci7) terms, the northbridge is on the CPU die, but we speak in pentium Pro (modern X86 architecture) terms, in which the northbridge is on the motherboard. Most motherboard manufacturers still call the first bridge on the board the Northbridge, even though technically it should be given another name)[where was I, right RMA the board] and the RAM at the same time. One of them's got the problem, the other doesn't but considering both will take roughly the same amount of time to RMA I'd do both.
MrWizard. Thanks for your technical level in this issue. I'm still waiting for the guy that built my computer to respond to my email. So far he hasn't been able to.
As for the question of running memtest, Saithsayin said I didn't have to. Should I still need to do this?
As for the question of running memtest, Saithsayin said I didn't have to. Should I still need to do this?
Well, guys. I just talked to him. He said;
1. The two-hour memtest should've been enough.
2. It's not the motherboard. It's brand new. It's a faulty sensor.
I have a brand new Antec Earthwatts 650W PSU. And the damn thing didn't even help to fix my issue.
It looks like this. According to him, it's a solid PSU. http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=NjY=
I'm guessing now it's my video card.
Something is overheating, and it's not my motherboard. So I don't know what. All I do know is everytime it does lock up, I get alot of heat coming out of the fans in the back of my case. The heat could be normal, as more heat builds when playing games.
1. The two-hour memtest should've been enough.
2. It's not the motherboard. It's brand new. It's a faulty sensor.
I have a brand new Antec Earthwatts 650W PSU. And the damn thing didn't even help to fix my issue.
It looks like this. According to him, it's a solid PSU. http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=NjY=
I'm guessing now it's my video card.
Something is overheating, and it's not my motherboard. So I don't know what. All I do know is everytime it does lock up, I get alot of heat coming out of the fans in the back of my case. The heat could be normal, as more heat builds when playing games.
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