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Liquid Metal Cooling?

cool

do you reckon by using an additional pc slot they mean the one that is already being used or just basically a dual slot card

on a side note: a bug was just flying around my head and i caught in my hand. i think that makes me a ninja
 
sounds cool, but what i want to know is can i buy it separately?
 
It doesn't look that great: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20050519225638.html

It uses a Gallium/Indium alloy (61% Gallium, 25% Indium, 13% Tin and 1% Zinc) that solidifies at 6.5C and melts at 7.6C.

Bad news if that leaks. From the material safety data sheet of a similar gallium/indium alloy (solid): "DO NOT ingest. Avoid breathing dust. Keep container closed. Use only with adequate ventilation." It's a toxic heavy metal. I can't see this going retail.
 
well its a new step towards the future of cooling, others will just all over the idea, as lond as the technology is not patented, it will evolve.
 
pxc said:
It's a toxic heavy metal. I can't see this going retail.
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Thing is, I don't recall hearing of any liquid metals that aren't. EDIT: Oops, stand corrected. The link to this particular cooling actually says the liquid metal they use is non-toxic.

Overall, I think it sounds like a good idea. Water is pretty good at cooling, but, on the scales of how well things cool, water isn't really horribly high, just a heck of a lot higher than air. ^_^

Question is, how much more do you get out of it? Is it a lot noticably better than a water cooling system? I imagine cost will be something of an issue too.

One of these days I'm going to come up with the money to get a water cooling system. At least, so I keep telling myself. ^_^ First up, got to get enough to get myself an Athlon 64...
 
Hate_Bot said:
heres a pic (the final version wont have fans)
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23331


Passive cooling=Quieter=Better
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It will have fan(s). A small passive radiator won't exchange heat fast enough, especially on an over 75W chip like the x850XT. IMO, they will go with a blower design like the ATI Silencer. You can already see the double-wide slot bracket has exhaust holes.

Fuad is such an idiot. This is in the same article linked above with only a few dozen works between each quote:
The company will show off some early prototypes of the card at E3 and at this time liquid metal cooling will have some fans on while a final design might lose the fans. It can work completely fan ess and can cool the high end fastest and latest greatest cards.
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Just for the record, the prototype card still has fans while the final design will lose them.
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can't be wrong if you cover all the bases. :rolleyes:

and this is just plain deceptive (or Fuad just doesn't know what he's saying... again):
Some early testing showed that prototype cooled Radeon X850XT PE card to just 12 Celsius.
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Yeah, the card is going to run at 53F. :rolleyes: Maybe in antarctica with an open case or a with a huge peltier, but definitely not with just the cooler and normal ambient air.
 
Nazo said:
Thing is, I don't recall hearing of any liquid metals that aren't. EDIT: Oops, stand corrected. The link to this particular cooling actually says the liquid metal they use is non-toxic.
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The patent for this (by Nanocoolers, Inc.) uses a Gallium/Indium alloy as I mentioned above. If it leaks (heavy welds at the tube junctions should prevent it), it is definitely toxic.
 
pxc said:
The patent for this (by Nanocoolers, Inc.) uses a Gallium/Indium alloy as I mentioned above. If it leaks (heavy welds at the tube junctions should prevent it), it is definitely toxic.
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so it becomes toxic on contact with air :confused:

 
Carnival Forces said:
so it becomes toxic on contact with air :confused:
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Rofl, seriously? I call THAT toxic... After all, I tend to breath air.

*grumbles* Bloody marketing hype...
 
12 C temps are pretty good, better than water cooling, now if it cooled the gpu and ram at 12 C without the fans, thats some good OC potential. :D
 
Gr@ftoon said:
12 C temps are pretty good, better than water cooling, now if it cooled the gpu and ram at 12 C without the fans, thats some good OC potential. :D
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heh, or as pxc said, some good b.s. potential. If a passive heatsink can be cooler than ambient temperatures, then they should make freezers that don't require power.

That would save me some $$$ on my electric bill.
 
If they say it's non-toxic, and it ends up being toxic.. I think both companies could risk getting shut down. Not sure if they are going to risk that.

Sounds like a cool new idea though.. 12ºC unlikely, even idle, but if it's better than water cooling, I'm all for seeing the temps.
 
Nazo said:
Rofl, seriously? I call THAT toxic... After all, I tend to breath air.

*grumbles* Bloody marketing hype...
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nonono, that's my question

another poster said it is toxic, while the article clearly says it is non-toxic.

so i was wondering if the poster who said it was toxic meant , if it comes in contact with air, it becomes toxic.

and, according to the article, it has a specific heat capacity 64 times better than water :eek:

what i want to know is, why isn't that out on my CPU??

 
Carnival Forces said:
what i want to know is, why isn't that out on my CPU??
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Cause the metal might fuse with yor CPU and turn into that guy from Terminator 2
 
Chix4mat said:
If they say it's non-toxic, and it ends up being toxic.. I think both companies could risk getting shut down. Not sure if they are going to risk that.

Sounds like a cool new idea though.. 12ºC unlikely, even idle, but if it's better than water cooling, I'm all for seeing the temps.
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Even if it was toxic are you saying that all thermostat companies should be shut down for using mercury too then? Problably should shut down the tuna industry too, we'll all die of lead poisoning!

Its a peice of computer hardware, not something you bring home and lay next to your child in the crib to chew on. You put it in, and you dont see it or touch it! Im sure they'll use the thinnest layer of glass to encase it =p
 
But, the thermostat companies don't say "completely non-toxic" either. If it's toxic, the user still has a right to know. Hopefully it will never once even matter, but, it's still best to know, just in case.

How toxic is it if it is though? In the case of the mercury, it's only toxic if you ingest it (and I suppose get it in a cut or something.) I've seen millions of pictures in encyclopedias and such where it shows someone holding mercury in their hand without gloves or anything, so I suspect it's not immediately hazardous if it is. (Then again, Isopropyl is put on cuts and everything, but, enough -- and it takes a lot -- of that even just to uncut skin is poison.)
 
Nazo said:
But, the thermostat companies don't say "completely non-toxic" either. If it's toxic, the user still has a right to know. Hopefully it will never once even matter, but, it's still best to know, just in case.

How toxic is it if it is though? In the case of the mercury, it's only toxic if you ingest it (and I suppose get it in a cut or something.) I've seen millions of pictures in encyclopedias and such where it shows someone holding mercury in their hand without gloves or anything, so I suspect it's not immediately hazardous if it is. (Then again, Isopropyl is put on cuts and everything, but, enough -- and it takes a lot -- of that even just to uncut skin is poison.)
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Look, its encased in a block of steel or copper/zinc if thats what they use in the end. At the very least it would take a seriously powerful dremel or drill to even get at it. It would be the equivilant, in my mind, to drilling a hole in a propane tank without knowing if theres anything in it. If someone gets hurt for it, i have no pitty.
 
Let me put it this way. Leaks happen. In your example, yes, even gas has occasionally leaked. Why do you think they add smells to the gasses that don't have them?

I just think that if they are going to release such a thing to the public, they need to not say non-toxic if their definition of non-toxic is "non-toxic so long as you do not come into contact with it." Just asking for honesty basically. Frankly, I'll probably never have one of these things anyway. If I did, I'd sure as heck be darned careful that it never leaked not just due to any question of whether it's toxic or not, but, because any metal that's a good conductor of heat probably conducts electricity at least enough to basically cause my system to fry just about every single component. I'd still like to know despite that. Nor am I going to decide to never get such a thing based solely on whether or not it's toxic. Probably many of the chemicals that many people add to their water cooling systems to keep them flowing smoothly and all are just as toxic really. That's fine as long as they don't say non-toxic on them.
 
i agree with Nazo. so do, i would guess, most companies. which is why, as the article says "non-toxic," then it is probably non-toxic.

 
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