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Linux install question

exilera

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Just installed Kubuntu on my second HD. When I choose 'ubuntu' from the GRUB boot loader, it takes me to a linux command prompt. How do I get it to boot into Linux, or do I have to type a string to get it to do so? If so, what's the string? Did I do something wrong when installing?
 
you are in linux!

if you mean the graphical front end (Xwindows/Xserver)
then for a start type "startx" once you have logged in at the command prompt

if that doesn't work, sounds like you didnt choose to install any X-components
if it does, you just have to change /etc/inittab to change the "runlevel" from 3 (ie commandline) to 5
 
eeyrjmr said:
you are in linux!

if you mean the graphical front end (Xwindows/Xserver)
then for a start type "startx" once you have logged in at the command prompt

if that doesn't work, sounds like you didnt choose to install any X-components
if it does, you just have to change /etc/inittab to change the "runlevel" from 3 (ie commandline) to 5
I type in startx at the prompt after logging in and it says there's a problem with a config file (xorg, I think?) and won't start the shell... I've installed the system three times now and I still get the same error. What could I be doing wrong?

In the GRUB loader, I have four boot options plus the XP install; I have ubuntu kernal default, default (recovery) and just ubuntu and ubuntu (recovery). Is this normal?

I can't log into the GUI; I don't know any commands though. I didn't know startx even until it was mentioned :)

Also, is there a way to remove the Grub boot loader?
 
what kind of error are you getting?

have a look in /var/log/Xorg.log

that will tell you where it is failing

why do you want to destroy GRUB? do you want to get rid of Linux?
if so you can boot off the XP install disk and goto the recovery console and type

"fixmbr" I think
 
you can reduce the selection time in grub so it instantly boots linux on after POST if you want.
 
OK, here's what I've done...

Two seperate drives. I formatted the first (and wiped the second) and installed Kubuntu on the first drive. I chose "automatically partition free space" and it made two partions, one with the majority of the drive which it made "ext3" and a 3gb swap partition.

Then, it went through the install (I think, I'm a complete linux newbie :)). It took a few minutes, then finally brought me to a command prompt, asking for my username and password, which I entered. It then gave me the following errors when I type "startx":

(==) Using config file: "/etc/x11/xorg.conf"

Skipping "/usr/x11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o": No symbolds found

repeat for m_debug_norm.o and m_debug_xform.o

Fatal server error:
no screens found


XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
after 0 requests


Then it brings me to:
horizon@kubuntu:~$


This same thing happens whenever I try to install this. I burned the 5.04 install onto a CD from kubuntu.org and I'm installing with that CD.

Please help! :)
 
try
Code:
$sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
look for this area(assuming you have an ati card, nvidia will look slightly different)
Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon X850 XT PE (R480)"
Driver "ati"
BusID "PCI:5:0:0"
EndSection

change Driver "ati" to Driver "vesa"

if nano doesnt work look for the thread here about editing from the command line.
 
Ok, I got into the file and changed ati to vesa as you suggested. When I try to ctrl-X and save changes, I get a "could not open file for writing: permission denied" error. I'm logged in with the account I created during setup (at least I think?). What do you think might be wrong?

Thanks very much for the help btw.
 
you need root or su access to edit xorg.conf.
did you use "sudo" like in my example?
also try just using "su" then enter your pw when it asks
Code:
you@yoursystem ~ $su 
Password "your user pw"
root@yoursystem ~ #nano ......

ill be honest, im more or less guessing on some of this. I have been mostly a redhat/fedora guy so the sudo thing is new to me
 
you need write permision

type

sudo chmod 777 filename


the 777 will let you read,write, execute.
 
Do I type that before the "$sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf", or in place of it? What's the syntax I need to type at the prompt?

Thanks!
 
snoopy said:
you need write permision

type

sudo chmod 777 filename


the 777 will let you read,write, execute.
At the command prompt, I typed in "sudo chmod 777 xorg.conf"

Then I did "$sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and still got the permission error.
 
There's two distinct possibilities, really.
Either you use chmod to make the file writable by everyone, or you get root privileges (by using su or sudo, or logging in as root) whenever you want to change it. The latter might sound like more work, but it's a good habit to get into.
 
Don't change the permissions on the file

What you have to do is, like a previous poster pointed out, edit the file with 'sudo'

sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf

this should ask for a password, then you should enter yours
there should be no permission problem, because you're editing the file as 'root'

try to use 'su' too, but i'm not sure if ubuntu uses that...

and either way you can't chmod the file like that...

unless you were in the directory /etc/X11/ then the command "sudo chmod 777 xorg.conf" was looking for the file xorg.conf in whatever directory you were in, and I'm assuming you were in your home directory... so you need to either cd to that dir or specify it during the chmod... however i really dont think the right way of editing this file is to make it globally writable... you really want to use 'su' or 'sudo' as opposed to messing with system file permissions...
 
HHunt said:
There's two distinct possibilities, really.
Either you use chmod to make the file writable by everyone, or you get root privileges (by using su or sudo, or logging in as root) whenever you want to change it. The latter might sound like more work, but it's a good habit to get into.
I tried using chmod, but it still didn't work (am I using the wrong syntax?).

How would I log in as root? When you type "sudo", does it always require the $ infront of it? What's the exact syntax I'd need when using sudo to edit the file? Perhaps I'm just typing something wrong?

Thanks again for the help!
 
Spleeze said:
Don't change the permissions on the file

What you have to do is, like a previous poster pointed out, edit the file with 'sudo'

sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf

this should ask for a password, then you should enter yours
there should be no permission problem, because you're editing the file as 'root'

try to use 'su' too, but i'm not sure if ubuntu uses that...

and either way you can't chmod the file like that...

unless you were in the directory /etc/X11/ then the command "sudo chmod 777 xorg.conf" was looking for the file xorg.conf in whatever directory you were in, and I'm assuming you were in your home directory... so you need to either cd to that dir or specify it during the chmod... however i really dont think the right way of editing this file is to make it globally writable... you really want to use 'su' or 'sudo' as opposed to messing with system file permissions...
When I type in "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (without the $), it creates a new file. Honestly I'm not sure which level I'm in. I'm trying this stuff right after a system reboot, right after it asks for my username and password. Should I change to root, if I'm not there already? If so, what would I type to do that?
 
"sudo" means "Do the next command as root".
If you do "ls /etc/X11", what files does it list?
 
HHunt said:
"sudo" means "Do the next command as root".
If you do "ls /etc/X11", what files does it list?
I'm at "horizon@kubuntu:~$

when I type in "ls /etc/x11" it says "No such file or directory"

Oh, I guess it's case sensitive, it now says:

apps_defaults rgb.txt xkb Xsession xwrapper.config
cursors rstart xorg.conf Xsession.d
and some others
 
Oh wow it worked; I was typing x11 instead of X11 (didn't realize it was case sensitive). Thanks to everyone who helped me out on this.

One quick question; I only have available resolution up to 1025x768. I have a Dell 2005fpw, so it supports a really high res. How can I get a higher res to display?

Thanks again!
 
You need to go to ATI's web site and download the drivers for Linux, just as you would do for Windows. Follow the instructions very carefully, and you'll have much better resolution and 3D support.

And congrats on figuring out Linux is case sensitive. A lot of people would have given up and said "this is too hard/stupid/retarded".
 
It should actually be possible to use the radeon driver instead of the vesa driver; I'm using it right now at 1280x1024. It's open source, and comes bundled with X. Much easier than the Ati drivers, but lacking in features and 3d support. Also, your card is very new, so it's likely that it's not supported yet. If you still want to try it, my xorg.conf is here, but you'll need to replace the mouse, keyboard and fontpath bits of it with what's in your current xorg.conf file.

I'd suggest downloading it and saving it as xorg2.conf , modifying it in some X text editor, and leaving X. While at the CLI, you can use "startx -config /etc/X11/xorg2.conf" to try it instead of the default conf file.
 
tremor said:
You need to go to ATI's web site and download the drivers for Linux, just as you would do for Windows. Follow the instructions very carefully, and you'll have much better resolution and 3D support.

And congrats on figuring out Linux is case sensitive. A lot of people would have given up and said "this is too hard/stupid/retarded".

Ok, I downloaded the linux driver for my video card. Um, crazy question here but, what is the default download location? :D I can't seem to find the file I just downloaded.

And thanks for the compliment. I'm pretty adamant about learning this OS. Aside from the initial problems, I like it a lot.
 
For firefox, the default download location is probably Desktop in your home directory. You can change it (or have it ask you every time) in the preferences.
(Edit->Preferences->Downloads)
 
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