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Linux Ati and Nvidia

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Steven301

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I've used linux now for better over 4 years and I personely find working with no restrictions to be a god send, ie....install the os without having to register the software as I allready bought and paid for it, (suse 6.3- suse9.0). In all my uses with either windows or linux my freands say they run linux because they like a os that does not take the system with it when theres a crash, but since win2k and winxp i've not notice many lockups unless I was heavly overclocking, yet most still use the argument that linux is more stable than windows and I just let it slide without much hassle, most resently though most linux users say they like and use nvdia over ati drivers and so use nvidia rather than buy ati based cards to avoid problems with driver installs. I've been around long enough to know that problems with stablity are for the most a thing of the past but is getting a ATI based video card running with full opengl still a hurdle to get pasted and should ati take more care of linux users to give maybe an alternate install? Back in the day most linux users liked how not everything was laid out like upfront and done without ever knowing what the os really was doing and instilled a kind of geeky I did it the [H]ard way and its good enough for me its good enough for you. Should Ati make it simple to install their drivers or should they even care as its good enough now?

Any thoughts, what started this ramble was everyday more and more laptops seem to have ati based cards for laptops and less nvidia based cards, which would make it even harder to get working opengl working if its true that ati still needs to work on their drivers.

(ps mod's if this needs to be moved then go ahead as most of the talk is based on video cards and os.
 
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useful post...

anyway...back to topic i dont have much experience with Linux but i do know that some of my friends had issues trying to install their ATI cards (9600 it was i think) under linux, eventually he just got fed up and swapped it for an Nvidia, he wasnt to fussed as he doesnt do massive amounts of gaming, he was more interested in being able to use some of the flashy 3D screensavers for Linux.
 
Well, I am an ultra-n00b at linux, and I think drivers for both should be easier. I have not had direct experience with ATI drivers, but I will probably next week. Also about a year ago or so I tried out Nvidia drivers, and I could not get them to work. From what I am seeing, I think I will be SOL with ATI drivers too. I feel I will greatly miss my "double click the driver, click next 5 tiems, reset" method of installing the driver, and I think a big part of linux is it being hard to use for people that don't know it, i.e. me.
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My biggest issue with ATI's Lunix drivers is that they insist on only shipping as RPMs.

At least XFree86 and Mesa have decent native support for Radeons up through the 8500/9100/9000/9200 chips
 
on an old rig, i had an nvidia gf2 mx 400. The more recent nvidia drivers were easy to install and maintain, so no complaints. I havnt had experience with my current rig (radeon 9700) yet, but ill prolly instal gentoo on this box sumtime soon. all i know is that you should be able to get the card to work at all res's with full open gl support, open gl performance is another question...
 
Until the Linux community gets its act together, it will remain more obscure than an Apple.

For normal people that is. Why dont the folks in the linux world pool a database of drivers for all known hardware....continually updated and improved.

Until its alot easier, I wont be getting on the bandwagon.

How about a tutorial on what is needed to setup on an NF7-S? With ATI and NVidia.
 
I had no problems at all getting my nvidia card set up under linux. My 9800pro on the other hand annoyed me. I didn't get it set up, but I didn't mess with it too much either, so.
 
Originally posted by uwackme
Until the Linux community gets its act together, it will remain more obscure than an Apple.

For normal people that is. Why dont the folks in the linux world pool a database of drivers for all known hardware....continually updated and improved.

Until its alot easier, I wont be getting on the bandwagon.

How about a tutorial on what is needed to setup on an NF7-S? With ATI and NVidia.
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Manufacturers would need to support this, they make the drivers. And actually, almost all drivers are integrated into the kernel so no seperate install for drivers outside of specialty ones (like video cards) is needed.
 
There was, at one time, a list of properly supported hardware, but it's since grown out of date. Redhat (and IIRC, SuSE and Mandrake) also keep such a list on their sites, somewhat more up to date.

Not that this really helps, since the average user doesn't know what kind of hardware they have in the first place. Which is why you hear people taking about their "265MB Pentium processor" and wahtnot

Besides, who needs to go through the trouble of keeping a list when you can just pop in Knoppix and get 95% of available hardware detected, anything else is pretty easy to figure out if it's supported by doing a quick search at http://www.google.com/linux
 
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