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LG W2420R

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Toriera

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Just ordered this monitor, got it for about €1000/$1400.

There's no user experiences on it in this forum, so I thought I might as well prepare one. I'll be getting it sometime next week.

It has been on the market for ~1 year now, so it's not the most fresh monitor, yet the intel on it is lacking. Worst thing is that I got a feeling it's about to get discontinued. Even with the excellent PRAD review, I'm guessing the non-compatible bundled Spyder3 scared off some potential customers. For me it matters not, as I already have an i1 puck.

What do you think - a risky purchase, or possibly the best/only A-TW feautured IPS panel around?

I could do an unboxing or something similar should there be a demand.
 
Hi - I'm recently looking for a new LCD and I'm stucked with these 3:

Dell U3011 - love the size, but very afraid of white glow (I do not need to look from angles, but with 30" there can be problems even with center view)
NEC 2490WUXi2 - 400€ cheaper than dell and standard gamut which is enought (better?) for me
LG W2420R - LED and A-TW, but "only" 24" for the same price as 30" Dell

I'll use it mostly for programming, web-browsing and gaming (I really did not care about lag or response - I hate my current speedy but shitty TN). I like the Dell most, but the white glow is big problem for me - altought I have saw it only on youtube )-:

Therefore I would really appreciate your review of LG. Is the A-TW really worth of the price? Aren't there any problems with very wide gamut? Can you compare with another IPS withou A-TW?

And my most important question: is the white glow noticable on larger (30") IPS w/o A-TW even by direct view? If not, I think I found my ideal LCD ;)

thanks
 
Oh hey, someone replied...

Uh, this is a very late reply, but I do hope it's not too late. I'll give input on what points I can provide.

The only other IPS panel I've tested is the NEC EA231WMi, and that wasn't a side-by-side comparison alongside the LG monitor, so do take my rants for what they are.. The only things I can say on the NEC monitor's behalf is that a) the white glow was horrifying b) the magneta colored tinting effect on angles wider than 30 degrees was very distracting in darker backgrounds c) the gritty look on brighter backgrounds was also very distracting to me. If it's to any help - I'm sure you can find loads of comparisons between that NEC monitor and any Dell IPS monitor out there, so you can easier put my input into context.

Now onto the LG monitor: my impressions have been a little mixed so far. I do believe this is one of the best or better IPS monitors out there, and that was to me its main drawing point to begin with. Allround I feel a bit anti-climatic about this purchase. The main reason for this may very well be that I'm more of a PVA guy. See, I notice the IPS' downsides very well, and the PVA's not. So if you want an IPS monitors without comprimises, do make sure that you in truth do prefere a good IPS panel above a good PVA panel. Secondly, when pulling the trigger on a wide gamut RGB LED monitor, you absolutely have to know what you're doing. After 2 months of use, wherein I'd tweak a little when I felt for it - I still haven't been able to create a LUT profile I'm happy with. Creating a LUT profile with good results in matter of deviations - no problem! But doing so side-by-side with a non-wide gamut monitor - not so easy... In the end you'll try to emulate a standard gamut LUT profile like, say, Adobe RGB. That's easier said than done as well.

With that said, I'm still not in a position to make a decent review of the LG W2420R, but I do hope some of my input makes sense still. I'll do a summary for you:

White glow, tinting effects and gritty looks are all MINIMAL on W2420R, which is in itself great for an IPS panel. Yes, the wide gamut can be a problem IF you'll be using it alongside other, non-wide gamut monitors. I can't comment directly on any Dell monitors in regards of the points of your interest, but still I feel that I can say with some saftey that NONE of them are any near touching LG on W2420R's strong points. Is it worth the price? You like me seem to yearn for premium monitors without being in a position of avsolute need for the points that make a monitor premium to begin with, so only you can answer that question. Personally I'd recommend Eizo Foris FX2431 (alternatively the newer Foris model or EV2333, or any other top-of-the-line PVA panel for that matter) if you can get it reasonably lower priced than the W2420R. Though you'll have to decide for yourself what comprimises you can and cannot live with.

I think I can be be very happy with my LG W2420R, I just need to work a bit more on the calibreation of it, and figure out some stuff. Wide Gamut friendly calibreation software would make my life easier, but that's a matter of its own.

ANY outside input or correction on my say would be appreciated - I am NOT an expert on this field, there's still very much for me to learn.
 
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I am considering the LG W2420R and the NEC PA241W. I still don't know which one to get. With it's ATW polarizer and outstanding light uniformity, the LG W2420R caught my attention. It can be bought for around 1000 € if bought abroad. Nearly the same price as the NEC PA241W costs around here. If I buy the LG one from a foreign country can I claim its warranty in my country? From your experience with the W2420R, do you recommend it?

Thanks.
 
Well, that depends.

The W2420R is a good choice if:
- You want maximum viewing angles achievable with LCD technology
- You need a giant color gamut
- You own proper calibration hardware that can deal with RGB-LED backlight
- You mainly use color managed software

Generally speaking, you need to know what you are doing to benefit from this display. Without calibration/color management it will simply show completely oversaturated colors. The included colorimeter was proven to be useless.

If none of the items above apply, the PA241w may be the better choice since it has superior color control and good out-of-the-box presets.
 
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Is there any affordable calibration device that can calibrate this monitor?
 
Again I'm late in. I'll share some words in reply to some of the questions which were raised:
I recommend W2420R as a standalone monitor, and with a calibrating puck based on X-rite's i1 display2 and up. If you use several monitors side-by-side in your setup, or just as a part of your workflow, I can't recommend W2420R. The reason is as stated: its color gamut is massive. Owning several monitors with such capabilities is madness, I won't even consider such a scenario. Secondly, I recommend W2420R if you own or plan to acquire a calibreation device suited for this kind of color range. I am not suited for answering questions on this area (read: monitor calibration), so I suggest directing such questions elsewhere. I can with certainty claim that X-rite i1 display2 is a bare minimum of what such a monitor require. What software to use etc. is beyond me.

Nec has tweaked a i1 display2 unit to support wide gamut colorspace, as walked through in this article:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/nec_spectraview_reference_271.htm

Such a device should be suitable. As far as I can tell, it sports updated matrix filters that can better handle wide gamut. This might be achievable with any i1 Display2 through firmware updates, but I do not know whether this exists. Another alternative is to get a good spectrophotometer. One could do the colors with a spectrophotometer such as i1 Pro, and let an i1 Display2 puck handle the rest, without worrying about using correct filters. Now we're talking near perfection, but as you can figure - perfection is not affordable. You can do like I did: settle with an i1 Display2 puck without worrying too much about the color correctness for the time being. It's good enough, especially if you use it standalone - as mentioned.

$1000 is a good price, but I wouldn't bother if you're forced to shop abroad. It's not worth it if money is dear to you. About anything Eizo and Nec offer is good enough, so don't go out of your way in buying this display; just don't.

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037147777&postcount=6 is good advice. I have myself confirmed that Spyder3 is poor (it was nowhere near as bad as what author of PRAD showcased, but still inferior to X-rite's offerings).
 
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Nec has tweaked a i1 display2 unit to support wide gamut colorspace, as walked through in this article:
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The probe could hold a custom correction matrix für WCG-CCFL spectra (for example instead of the CRT matrix - HP is going this way with "their" EOD2 for the LP2480zx) but it is in this case far more likely that an appropriate correction is carried out on software side - outside it behaves just like a normal EOD2 (which is corrected against a 72% NTSC CCFL and CRT spectrum) - though with considerable lower inter instrument variation. However: The RGB-LED spectrum (108% NTSC) of the LG differs considerably from an extended WCG-CCFL spectrum (102% NTSC) anyway.

Therefore the solution for the LG is an EyeOne Pro or ColorMunki (if supported - don't remember at the moment). Alternative could be the HP LP2480zx which bundles a customized EOD2 (only usable via HPs software) or the Quato IP240ex. Quato has implemented a correction for the RGB-LED spectrum in iColor Display which leads to sufficient accurate results with the stable DTP94 from X-Rite.

Best regards

Denis
 
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I got my LG today :)

+ sRGB mode looks amazing, almost like CRT
+ contrast ratio is much better than U2410
+ AG coating is there but it's rather weak
+ viewing angles are almost perfect
+ uniformity also very good if not perfect
+ colors seem much more neutral to eyes than on WCG-CCFL
+ no visible flickering like on WCG-CCFL
- response time slightly worse even with RTC
- RTC have reverse ghosting artifacts
- spyder3 can't calibrate it properly
= skips frames at != 60Hz

I mentioned colors being more neutral. The thing is that WCG-CCFL seemed candy-like even on greys (probably because rainbow DLP like flickering) and white background and no matter how I tried to calibrate it candidness was always there. RGB-LED white background seem just white and grays just gray, so big improvement here :D

It also have small defect: reddish spot visible on black background but only because of it I have this monitor for 300$ :p

ps. there are no dithering issues on this monitor at all
 
$300... That's messed up, even with the said defect. I really liked your review, XoR; thank you for contributing to this thread.
 
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