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LDAP
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Ok Sorry I Didnt Explain too great. I Have 4 Windows Boxes (XP,Vista,And 7) NOne OF Them Can Connect straight to Actvice Directory becuase their not the "PRO" Version.... I Have A Windows Server Box ( IN SIG) Running Everything: DNS,DHCP... I want to setup a linux box to run ldap on... I want to login from windows box be able to receive distributed apps from linux server and be able to access resources on windows server! Hopefully this helps.... I Am Not A Pro so i am unsure of every technical term....
Novell Netware is NOT an "option"
It's the worst piece of crap directory service I've ever had the displeasure of trying to work with.
Either take your xp home computer to ubuntu or something, or get XP pro.
linuxishawt
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This can be done however you're going to have a hard time if you don't understand the underlying technologies at work here: ldap, sso, gina library, etc.
I would point you to read this and see if it helps you
http://erikberg.com/notes/auth.html
I would point you to read this and see if it helps you
http://erikberg.com/notes/auth.html
100% agreed with the novell portion. God, what a piece of absolute shit. Why anyone would willingly subject themselves to novell crap is unbelievable.
I've seen your other threads, tgray96. Your best option is to get the pro version of windows vista/7 ( 7 is recommended ). It will cost less in the long run trying to tie all of these services together if you have the product you need instead of trying to bandaid something together.
Trust me on this. Many of us here have been down that road.
Red Squirrel
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Yeah just get the pro version. I ALWAYS buy the biggest possible windows version when buying, since you never know what hidden limitations they'll throw in the lower end versions to screw you over later.
Said The Wise Man.... Thanks For The Support
As I Said in my other thread about AD..... I Have A Very Very Low Budget Probably Less Than Half What A Mcdonalds Order Taker Makes In A Month..... Not An Option............................. Our IT Guys at school Use Novell Netware And ZEN Apllication distribution...Seems nice too me.....
Well I Didnt Actually Buy Any Versions OF Windows On Any Of My Machines... They Are OEM Version That Came With Them....
Thanks..... I Will Read Up On That.... Hopefully It will Be A Good Starting Point....
It's crap. It's a big steaming pile of crap. Listen to someone who is essentially CNA certified and has had the distinct displeasure of working with Novell for far longer than anyone should be made to do so.Said The Wise Man.... Thanks For The Support
As I Said in my other thread about AD..... I Have A Very Very Low Budget Probably Less Than Half What A Mcdonalds Order Taker Makes In A Month..... Not An Option............................. Our IT Guys at school Use Novell Netware And ZEN Apllication distribution...Seems nice too me.....
If you want app management on the workstations, take a look at wpkg. It's opensource, it's free, and it does an amazing job. Zenworks can accomplish the same thing, but the overhead ( admin training, server hardware and workstation hardware ) sucks. Oh, and if your budget is too small to upgrade the workstation licenses, then you can't afford novell product either.
Really, if you proceed with using the home versions of MS stuff for this you *will* have persistent issues. They will usually be productivity impacting, resulting in a higher overall cost to business operations than just dropping the coin on the pro versions and going AD. Those are softcosts, however, so management may be "alright" with it.
Well i understand what your saying.... Novell wouldnt cost me a penny..... I Have A box with novell 5.xx? not sure which exact but its 5 with 100+ client licenses or whatever
Hmm. Without proper training, it's going to cost you quite a bit more than simply buying the appropriate windows client license.
That, and are you sure you own the licenses? Just because you have the physical media and license disk doesn't mean you own the right to use them.
Electrofreak
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+1.
I have to work with Novell on a daily basis mixed with several other Active Directory domains I administer. It's so ass-backwards and convoluted it's ridiculous. Administering users via ConsoleOne or iManager makes me want to tear my eyes out of their sockets and eat them. And don't get me started on GroupWise accounts.
Unfortunately, the facility (complex? megaplex? uberplex?) that runs it won't be upgrading any time soon.
+1 Haha that made me laugh and cry at the same time. I am sorry for your pain! Anybody wanna buy a novell 5.x license?
Red Squirrel
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Funny I was posting, but my post pretty much was exactly this, so I'm just quoting it for essence.
I worked at the helpdesk for a while and one of our clients was a school board using Novhell. At first, the product may seem attractive, as it's cheap, based on Linux and seems to have lot of features. That's a trap. Don't fall into it. It's a PITA to manage.
What's funny is that the distro they chose, suse, I couldn't stand using even before they bought them. It's a pain in the ass to deal with, which is par for the course with Novell.Funny I was posting, but my post pretty much was exactly this, so I'm just quoting it for essence.
I worked at the helpdesk for a while and one of our clients was a school board using Novhell. At first, the product may seem attractive, as it's cheap, based on Linux and seems to have lot of features. That's a trap. Don't fall into it. It's a PITA to manage.
I'll get off my soapbox now about it, because after working with this crap for 5+ years I've had my fill and could go on for HOURS about how horrible novell is.
Novell was great back when we were using it over ARCnet... I think the last time I touched that was 1997 and it was ancient all the way back then.
Back when I used to travel for work, if I walked into a cubicle of some sysadmin and I saw giant Novell posters I knew who to avoid. They were usually accompanied by huge piles of obsolete hardware strewn about and lots of soda cans.
Back when I used to travel for work, if I walked into a cubicle of some sysadmin and I saw giant Novell posters I knew who to avoid. They were usually accompanied by huge piles of obsolete hardware strewn about and lots of soda cans.
Electrofreak
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Novell NetWare was secure, I'll give it that. That's about all I'll give it.
Meh, I'd re-evaluate what you are trying to accomplish.
Generally when you are first starting out you don't want to go with some over-the-top heterogeneous setup where you have multiple OS's and versions trying to interact and play nice with each other. The learning curve is simply too steep.
Instead, figure out what you want to do at a high-level and see how you can natively accomplish it using a single OS to start with. Once you have those concepts down you can leverage that knowledge into interoperability between the different OS's and do all kinds of nifty single-sign-on stuff.
Generally when you are first starting out you don't want to go with some over-the-top heterogeneous setup where you have multiple OS's and versions trying to interact and play nice with each other. The learning curve is simply too steep.
Instead, figure out what you want to do at a high-level and see how you can natively accomplish it using a single OS to start with. Once you have those concepts down you can leverage that knowledge into interoperability between the different OS's and do all kinds of nifty single-sign-on stuff.
Well lets see.... I would love to use all windows... but their is a money constraint on that.... so...... Yeah
linuxishawt
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I thought I already linked you to a guide that explains how to use pGina? Anyway straight from the site...
So what you want to do is get LDAP working on a linux box or whatever and install pGina on the windows clients.
http://www.pgina.org/index.php/Main_Page
So what you want to do is get LDAP working on a linux box or whatever and install pGina on the windows clients.
http://www.pgina.org/index.php/Main_Page