My wife plays card games at yahoo. The latest update for java from Sun makes her wonder why we bothered to get broadband. It is painfully slow. I thought she was joking until I watched her do it one time. I tracked down the oooold MS java machine and installed it on her computer. Now her games fire up almost instantly. This is progress? This is better code? Perhaps Sun needs to rethink their strategy. I am not a MS !!!!!! but at least they had that working better.