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noobfarm

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Ok... really... has anyone else noticed that the laptops today suck for gaming(well, of course you have)? but really... why doesn't people like Dell or Apple that make the most known laptops actually try to make them gamer friendly... so we don't have to carry a friggen USB mouse everywhere?
 
noobfarm said:
Ok... really... has anyone else noticed that the laptops today suck for gaming(well, of course you have)? but really... why doesn't people like Dell or Apple that make the most known laptops actually try to make them gamer friendly... so we don't have to carry a friggen USB mouse everywhere?
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Uhh... why would you bring Apple when you're talking about gaming laptops, rofl. Also, gaming laptops don't make much sense. When you cram a high speed cpu and a powerful video card into one, your battery life goes down the drain, therefore making the laptop senseless. Still, if you want a senseless laptop (i.e. Dell's XPS), there are plenty available with fast cpus and good video cards.
 
Angelus897 said:
Uhh... why would you bring Apple when you're talking about gaming laptops, rofl. Also, gaming laptops don't make much sense. When you cram a high speed cpu and a powerful video card into one, your battery life goes down the drain, therefore making the laptop senseless. Still, if you want a senseless laptop (i.e. Dell's XPS), there are plenty available with fast cpus and good video cards.
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Will agree with your assessment of Apple, but going to disagree with the rest. I travel around many locations on a consistent basis (just got back from a 6-week stint in Germany in fact) and I like to game on something other than a DS or PSP. Battery life isn't huge for me, as I'm usually near an electrical outlet anyway. However, portability is. My Dell E1705 isn't exactly setting speed records, but it's taken every game I've thrown at it so far.

As to the OP, how are laptops not good for gaming? Admittedly, not all laptops are up to the task, but there are some that are. As to a mouse, well, I can't imagine not having a USB mouse with you, especially if you want to play any FPS games.
 
noobfarm said:
Ok... really... has anyone else noticed that the laptops today suck for gaming(well, of course you have)? but really... why doesn't people like Dell or Apple that make the most known laptops actually try to make them gamer friendly... so we don't have to carry a friggen USB mouse everywhere?
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Bluetooth?
 
I have no problem carrying my mouse with my lappy. There's no touchpad or pointer stick in the world that's as good as a copperhead. Not Dell's fault. My XPS rocks balls. It destroys games at 1920x1200 all day long. And it's not like I don't have room for it in my bag...I have tons of space, so I have my Lappy, power supply, copperhead, n52 nostromo speedpad, a good mousepad and a JBL sound dock for my iPod. And I still have room for a few classes worth of books.
 
Now, just because you don't find the use of a gaming laptop doesn't mean they are completely useless. I am a college student that lives off campus. For me, I need the portability to bring my computer to a library (roommates are noisy as hell) and still be able to play some Tiberium Wars right after midterms/final to ease my pain and suffering (yesterday :D ). There are people that have to travel for their jobs that also want to game; are they going to bring their towers/monitor/peripherals with them?

When I attend small lan parties, my laptop is perfect. We mostly play CS 1.6, source, Fear, CNC Generals. The mobile x1600 can handle that completely. All I need is a mouse and headset ( external keyboard if its really competitive). This is much much more important convenient than lugging around a tower. Keep in mind that i dont ALWAYS bring a usb mouse, keyboard, headset with me everywhere. There is a thing called a touchpad I'm sure you know of.

Do gaming laptops suck now? Maybe the ones your looking at. Dell/Alienware are overpriced and are sold to look pretty (not that they are bad, but overpriced). I can't even believe you said Apple. If you did some research on what types of laptops are suited for gaming on the go, a clevo brand laptop would probably be the way to go. Also respectable and reasonable resellers like powernotebooks, sagernotebooks, pctorque, and a few others would be the best places to get a very reasonable price (instead of the overpriced Voodoo clevos).
Parts for these mobile gaming machines arn't so bad either, there is a 7950gtx mobile card, which should be able to play games at very high settings. the 8000 series should be coming out for them soon too. Gaming laptops are much better than what they have been maybe 2-3 years ago. Go look at all the options, because Dell/Alienware aren't the only ones that produce gaming laptops.
 
Ok, I'd like to partly apologize for my earlier statement. What I meant was that if you use your laptop for mobile work and have no access to a power outlet, then a gaming laptop is useless. However, if you have access to a power outlet, then they start making sense again. Also good for lan parties and such.

PS: Tsk, Tsk, Tsk. Playing Tiberium Wars in your library, lol.

EDIT: I find that my Core Duo T2300 + Radeon X1400 has a very good battery life, while providing decent (for a laptop) gaming experience.
 
I *wish* there were better gaming laptops around. My wife bought a new laptop and just keeps it plugged in most of the time. It's nice to be able to carry it to work/school or even just to another room of the house. Hers is NOT for gaming at all, but it runs Windows apps just fine. It's convenient to have everything ready to go in such a small package.
I look forward to the day when we'll be able to game on more laptops.
 
I currently game on my e1705 without any problems (core2 T7200, 7900gs, 2gb 667 ddr). I can play Command and Conquer 3 for about 2 hours with a 9cell battery fine when im waiting between classes.
 
As far as apple gaming...

My friend plays Supreme Commander on his MacBookPro and it runs fairly well.

( Bootcamp + windows = win )
 
I guess it should be ok since it has an x1600. But Apple OS doesn't have many supported games (i only remember WoW is supported).
 
noobfarm said:
Ok... really... has anyone else noticed that the laptops today suck for gaming(well, of course you have)? but really... why doesn't people like Dell or Apple that make the most known laptops actually try to make them gamer friendly... so we don't have to carry a friggen USB mouse everywhere?
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They've ALWAYS sucked, at least when compared to gaming desktops. It's just extremely difficult to make a 'gamer-friendly' laptop... not least because different people have very different ideas about what exactly 'gamer-friendly' is. You mentioned a mouse. I wouldn't even have thought of that. What do you expect? It's going to have a built-in full-sized mouse with a pad? I can't see that being anything but crappy.

I think the solution for people who want to game on laptops will continue (into the indefinite future) to be just to play older games that the laptop can handle.
 
Solaris with George Clooney. I WISH I could get back the nearly 2 hours I wasted watching this piece of crap. Throughout the whole movie I kept saying to myself, "It's got to get better." It never did.
 
RushFan said:
Solaris with George Clooney. I WISH I could get back the nearly 2 hours I wasted watching this piece of crap. Throughout the whole movie I kept saying to myself, "It's got to get better." It never did.
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:confused: :confused: When did George Clooney make laptops for gaming? :D
 
I just have one thing to say about all this, im useing a macbook pro with both os x and xp installed on it. The thing has a 2.0ghz intel core duo, 1 gig of ram, and an x1600, and i have to say when im in xp and gaming, its actually quite nice, cs:s runs great, and so does c&c 3.

just wanted to throw my 2cents in on the apple laptops ;)

Also, on top of having xp for gaming on this laptop, i also get os x for doing all the fun mac stuff :p
 
jointhedarkside said:
Now, just because you don't find the use of a gaming laptop doesn't mean they are completely useless. I am a college student that lives off campus. For me, I need the portability to bring my computer to a library (roommates are noisy as hell) and still be able to play some Tiberium Wars right after midterms/final to ease my pain and suffering (yesterday :D ). There are people that have to travel for their jobs that also want to game; are they going to bring their towers/monitor/peripherals with them?

When I attend small lan parties, my laptop is perfect. We mostly play CS 1.6, source, Fear, CNC Generals. The mobile x1600 can handle that completely. All I need is a mouse and headset ( external keyboard if its really competitive). This is much much more important convenient than lugging around a tower. Keep in mind that i dont ALWAYS bring a usb mouse, keyboard, headset with me everywhere. There is a thing called a touchpad I'm sure you know of.

Do gaming laptops suck now? Maybe the ones your looking at. Dell/Alienware are overpriced and are sold to look pretty (not that they are bad, but overpriced). I can't even believe you said Apple. If you did some research on what types of laptops are suited for gaming on the go, a clevo brand laptop would probably be the way to go. Also respectable and reasonable resellers like powernotebooks, sagernotebooks, pctorque, and a few others would be the best places to get a very reasonable price (instead of the overpriced Voodoo clevos).
Parts for these mobile gaming machines arn't so bad either, there is a 7950gtx mobile card, which should be able to play games at very high settings. the 8000 series should be coming out for them soon too. Gaming laptops are much better than what they have been maybe 2-3 years ago. Go look at all the options, because Dell/Alienware aren't the only ones that produce gaming laptops.
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QFT.

I have a somewhat unique situation - I go to college in Florida, but my parents just moved to Houston, TX. Now when I go home for summer/winter vacation I have to ship my gaming desktop and monitor back and forth (which is expensive and would probably damage something).
The solution: a desktop-replacement notebook. I get the maxed-out graphics that my desktop has spoiled me with, but in a portable form that I can safely transport to Florida as carry-on luggage. I don't care at all about battery life or weight - it's a "desktop" after all; it's just a relatively small and easy to transport desktop.

I'm personally waiting for SLI 8800's (8900's?) in a laptop, although it will be a while since they have to deal with heat/power issues, so hopefully that will be out before the end of the year. Although if I get impatient I might go ahead with the Clevo D900C (SLI 7950GTX's and a desktop Core 2 Duo) which is very appealing.
 
Shark-MegaByte said:
I think the solution for people who want to game on laptops will continue (into the indefinite future) to be just to play older games that the laptop can handle.
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Yea... That's maybe if you want a compromise between mobility, battery life, and graphics power, like mine. If you get a serious gaming laptop, I'm talking about a 17" or one of those massive 20" sli beasts, they should be able to game equally, if not better, than the system listed in your sig. The Geforce go 7950gtx gets a 3dmark06 score at around 5400 since its clocks are lowered than the desktop version of the card.
-source:http://www.hothardware.com/articles/NVIDIA_GeForce_Go_7950_GTX_Preview1/?page=3.

I wouldn't say these are for "old" games. Could play many recent games on max settings already.
These are the 3dmark scores for all mobility graphics cards here:
-http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
Should be interesting to look at.

There are also the 17" 7900gtx sli notebooks, and and already announced (as Joga mentioned) a new Clevo D900c (currently has sli 7950gtx), which will sport 2 shiny new Geforce go 8800gtx's. Do gaming laptops suck and will continue sucking? Top gaming laptops will always be inferior to top gaming desktops, that's true, but saying they suck compared to them is an overstatement. They are very comparable.

So which should people choose? There are pro's and cons for each. Laptops are for the people that need to travel, but would also like to bring their gaming hobby with them. Not everyone has a set amount of time at home that they could game. If that were the case, there wouldn't be a market for gaming laptops. So we compromise. We get a system that is a little more costly, gives off more heat, has a low battery life. But we can game wherever we feel like it. And that feeling.... is goood :) .

Edit: ooo shiny d900c http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3576
http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/13/clevo-d900c-laptop-touts-core-2-duo-extreme-sli-nvidia-8800s/
 
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